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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: jljonathan on February 07, 2011, 01:44:30 pm

Title: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: jljonathan on February 07, 2011, 01:44:30 pm

I have a Canon camera, and have always just imported with the LR settings left to Adobe default, including the Calibration panel set to Adobe Standard profile. Sometimes it provides a satisfactory starting point, other times not. Since reading in another topic's posts concerning importing with other profiles (and setting them as a new import default), I have tinkered around with trying this out. Just curious how others handle their import settings. Do you leave everything at Adobe default (basic, tone curve, detail, calibration)? Or, do you reset to a  custom default? What are the actual settings that you use and your reasons why. And, do you import with lens corrections enabled. This information would be a big help in gaining a better understanding of this aspect of LR.
Thanks
Jonathan

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: digitaldog on February 07, 2011, 01:54:38 pm

I use a dual illuminant DNG profile I built from a Macbeth using the X-Rite Passport software. You can of course use the Adobe default and update later. But as a good starting point, I prefer the custom profile.

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: howardm on February 07, 2011, 02:36:05 pm

I use Eric Chan's V3 profiles w/ Camera Standard but this season I'll probably do my own custom one

http://forums.adobe.com/thread/780605?tstart=0

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: jljonathan on February 07, 2011, 03:38:38 pm

Looks interesting, but I'm using Canon.
Thanks
Jonathan

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: howardm on February 07, 2011, 04:14:55 pm

then if you have a colorchecker chart, I *think* you can download the Passport s/w for free (or at least you used to be able to).

Otherwise, I think the Adobe provided 'Camera xyz' will probably be closest.

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: john beardsworth on February 08, 2011, 05:36:22 am

Jonathan

Camera Standard, but with Nikon, and on the basis of wanting that to my eyes is pleasing and realistic rather than Andrew's accurate colour.

John

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: stevebri on February 09, 2011, 10:01:16 am

I created my own using a colour checker and Adobe's DNG profile software.

You take a shot of the checker ( I shot mine outside, overcast, lunchtime, grey board underneath and surrounding the checker so no colour casts from grass, houses, cars etc...

The follow the DNG profiler instructions here http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:Editor

For me using a Phase One back I am able to get really great blues and greens via LR3, very very similar to what Capture One gives me.

It's not difficult to do and you are really getting a true profile for your camera that way.

S

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: Peter_DL on February 09, 2011, 12:05:41 pm

Quote from: stevebri on February 09, 2011, 10:01:16 am

I created my own using a colour checker and Adobe's DNG profile software.

You take a shot of the checker ( I shot mine outside...
Then follow the DNG profiler instructions here http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles:Editor  ...

It's not difficult to do and you are really getting a true profile for your camera that way.

+1.

Peter

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Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: Rhossydd on February 10, 2011, 02:34:50 am

From my normal shooting with a 5DII I import with a custom calibration profile (built via Adobe DNG profile editor*) and slightly increased sharpening settings than default (Detail 22, edge 22, radius 1.5, sharpness 60). Lens corrections are enabled.
I find this a good starting point for my camera and lenses, you might choose something different.

I've also got different settings to apply when working with other cameras or if shooting with very high ISOs.

Paul

*I prefered the Adobe DNG editor gave a less saturated look than the X-Rire passport software

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: ario on February 10, 2011, 08:02:25 am

I have only a Color Checker Passport as a reference target and I found that using the  DNG PE with it, i'm getting a bit of magenta cast, using the X-Rite SW on the contrary the outcome is a bit  on the cold side.
This is more or lesss constant with all my cameras (Leica, Nikon, Olympus and Pentax).
Can anybody tell me why the size of the DNG profiles created with the X-Rite SW is so small compared with the canned DNG profiles?
Cheers,
Ario

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: tokengirl on February 10, 2011, 05:35:32 pm

I use the Canon Camera Neutral profile.  Get it here:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: eliedinur on February 11, 2011, 11:56:29 am

Quote from: tokengirl on February 10, 2011, 05:35:32 pm

I use the Canon Camera Neutral profile.  Get it here:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/DNG_Profiles

There is no need to get it there. For the last two years those profiles have come bundled with Lightroom and ACR.

Title: Re: Which Camera Calibration profile do you use for your imports.
Post by: JRSmit on February 19, 2011, 11:35:10 am

I use the profiles i create with the DNG Profile Editor, i prefer thos over the ones i get with ColorCheckerPassport, main difference is in the blueish part of the spectrum. The CCP is a bit over the top there in saturation.
It depends on what you are after. The ones provides with ACR/LR are more or less mimicking the " profiles"  the camera-manufacturer provides. In my case, Nikon D700, these are like neutral, vivid, landscape etc. I do not like these.
Note that these are in envelope shape and format more or less equal to AdobeRGB ( the neutral one is quite close). The one created with either CCP or DPE are considerably  larger. My personal subjective feeling is that the DPE (or CCP) ones are more accurate wrt the scene photographed. But further down the workflow you can get into issues, fi display on screen, or on print. Simply because you then can quite easily have colors in the image that cannot be reproduced by the LCD or the print.