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Title: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 02, 2011, 03:22:22 pm
Please help.  I am looking at the above two monitors trying to decide if I really need the Spectraview version.  The price difference is significant, so this is an important decision. If I need the spectraview, I may need to get the 24" model.

I have read lots of pages about these monitors, but with my not being technology inclined and with the difference between the US and European versions of these monitors I am just very confused.  Could someone explain in very simple terms to me what the difference is?

Right now I have a 22" monitor that I am calibrating with a Spyder2.  It is a few years old, in need of replacement, so I'd like to move up into something larger and more accurate.

Thank you in advance to anyone who can help me understand what I need.

~A

ps:  this is the price difference for me here in Switzerland:  http://www.jmsinfo.com/liste-produit-2-11-7-Moniteurs-LCD--LED-26.html?af=1&marque%5B%5D=NEC
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 02, 2011, 03:39:01 pm
Please see this thread on the same subject:

http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=50685.0

One way or another you need something to calibrate and profile your display. It's pointless buying a high quality expensive piece of equipment like this and not using it properly. So the issue for you is whether you pay for Spectraview, or whether you buy something else. My understanding of the European situation is that the version of Spectraview being sold there with the display is a rebranded version of BasicColor 4.1, which is an excellent piece of calibration and profiling software. You also need a colorimeter adapted to the wide gamut of this display. A Spyder 2 will not do. The NEC i1 Display 2 will be much more satisfactory.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Czornyj on February 02, 2011, 04:38:02 pm
AFAIK european Spectraview version is heated, calibrated and carefully verified at the factory. You get basICColor display aka Spectraview profiler calibration software that can make a hardware calibration of the display, a hood, certificate with validation results and homogenity measurements, cleaning set, 6 months zero pixel defects warranty - all in a cool, shiny colorful box.

The regular european PA series display can't be hardware calibrated with basICColor display, it's not individually heated, checked and calibrated, there's no hood nor profiling software, not to mention a certificate or a cleaning set, and comes in an ordinary, grey box.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: elliot_n on February 02, 2011, 07:47:24 pm
Does anyone know why NEC can't sell the same product worldwide?

Is it something to do with software licenses?

I'm based in the UK, and I'm in the market for a quality monitor. I'm interested in NEC, but stories of European buyers entreating their American friends to smuggle them copies of Spectraview software have really put me off. (Also comments on an email list about going through 6 NEC monitors to find one without a left/right colour shift. I've been there and done that with Apples, Dells, HPs etc. Isn't the whole point of spending the extra money on a display to get colour and brightness uniformity, top, bottom, left and right?)

Currently looking at the offerings from Eizo and Quato.

What is NEC's problem?
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 02, 2011, 08:16:53 pm
Does anyone know why NEC can't sell the same product worldwide?

Is it something to do with software licenses?

I'm based in the UK, and I'm in the market for a quality monitor. I'm interested in NEC, but stories of European buyers entreating their American friends to smuggle them copies of Spectraview software have really put me off. (Also comments on an email list about going through 6 NEC monitors to find one without a left/right colour shift. I've been there and done that with Apples, Dells, HPs etc. Isn't the whole point of spending the extra money on a display to get colour and brightness uniformity, top, bottom, left and right?)

Currently looking at the offerings from Eizo and Quato.

What is NEC's problem?

My understanding is that it all relates to their perception of what packaging markets better in various geographic areas. There's no reason to smuggle Spectraview software between Europe and the US. In fact if anything the European version may well be preferable, depending on the extent of non-linearity of the panel. I don't believe the vast majority of users have issues with left-right colour shift. Be careful what you read - how many monitors of all sold does such a report (going through 6 panels) represent, and was that poster realistic in terms of the extent of the consistency expected? Every company produces lemons and we'll always hear about those first, but these are good displays by most accounts I've heard, and on the whole I'm really pleased with mine. Check the price difference between the Eizo and the NEC for roughly the same specs. Bells and whistles differ, but so do the prices - considerably. Many people, me included, find the NEC comparatively good value for money. My main complaints, as fsr as I know unique to people on Mac, is that Mac OSX DOES NOT support 10-bit display rendition and Apple's mini-DisplayPort is a huge connectivity PITA, which NEC and Apple have so far not been capable of fully resolving. Why Apple insisted on equipping these large MacPros with video cards especially configured for Mac with its buggy mini-DisplayPort instead of standard DisplayPort connector is beyond me. NEC is trying to be helpful on the cabling issue, but Apple is obtuse on both issues, simply not-responding.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 03, 2011, 03:34:01 am
You also need a colorimeter adapted to the wide gamut of this display. A Spyder 2 will not do. The NEC i1 Display 2 will be much more satisfactory.
The NEC puck is only available in the same markets as Spectraview II software, so it's not available in Europe.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 03, 2011, 03:35:33 am
The regular european PA series display can't be hardware calibrated with basICColor display,
Not my experience. Basicolor 4.1.22 offers hardware and software calibration of my PA271.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 03, 2011, 03:51:46 am
I'm based in the UK, and I'm in the market for a quality monitor. I'm interested in NEC, but stories of European buyers entreating their American friends to smuggle them copies of Spectraview software have really put me off. (Also comments on an email list about going through 6 NEC monitors to find one without a left/right colour shift. I've been there and done that with Apples, Dells, HPs etc. Isn't the whole point of spending the extra money on a display to get colour and brightness uniformity, top, bottom, left and right?)

Currently looking at the offerings from Eizo and Quato.
I understand the dilema. A lot will depend on what hardware you already own to calibrate the monitor with and what your budget is.
Dismissing the NEC monitors on the basis of one, possibly over fussy, user report on a web forum is just daft. There are a lot of very satisfied users of the PA series monitors, both here and elsewhere.

One of the main assets of the PA series is that they arrive is a very, very good state and even just a simple software profile will bring the monitor to a very high standard of calibration. The internal hardware calibrations are just the icing on the cake that a lot of users wouldn't miss.

Also, in my experience NEC have brilliant after sales service in the UK. When my last Spectraview 1980 developed a fault after 10 months one call had a replacement couriered to me the next day under warranty. Any brand will have some failures, so do check what you can expect from other brands if the unlikely does happen.

Paul
in the UK
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Czornyj on February 03, 2011, 04:24:55 am
Not my experience. Basicolor 4.1.22 offers hardware and software calibration of my PA271.


I must admit it's amazing. I've read that before and tried the trick with a couple of PA271s, both on PC and Mac - but no luck. It's officially not supported by basICColor, either. I belive the profiler checks the S/N of the display and doesn't support full hardware calibration when an EU S/N is detected. By any chance - didn't you get your unit from US market?
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Czornyj on February 03, 2011, 04:35:01 am
I'm based in the UK, and I'm in the market for a quality monitor. I'm interested in NEC, but stories of European buyers entreating their American friends to smuggle them copies of Spectraview software have really put me off. (Also comments on an email list about going through 6 NEC monitors to find one without a left/right colour shift. I've been there and done that with Apples, Dells, HPs etc. Isn't the whole point of spending the extra money on a display to get colour and brightness uniformity, top, bottom, left and right?)

Currently looking at the offerings from Eizo and Quato.

What is NEC's problem?
You still can buy a Spectraview - it's a decent display, and it has the profiler included, so there's no need to smuggle anything.

I saw a lot of NEC PA displays, and when the electronic uniformity compensation is enabled, they're all as even, as a wide gamut display can only be, EIZO CG is not any better in this respect IMHO (don't know how are Quatographics products, they're not very common here). And there's also a new version of basICColor display/Spectraview profiler coming soon, it's supposed to have a lot of new, useful functions...
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 03, 2011, 04:40:43 am
By any chance - didn't you get your unit from US market?
Bought from a UK dealer, but I guess it's possible the unit may have been sourced from the US originally.

The other possibility is that my copy of Basicolor 4.1.22 is an upgrade from Spectraview profiler originally supplied with a Spectraview monitor(1980). Maybe the upgrade process has retained the ability to hardware calibrate the PA ?
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Czornyj on February 03, 2011, 05:18:09 am
Bought from a UK dealer, but I guess it's possible the unit may have been sourced from the US originally.

The other possibility is that my copy of Basicolor 4.1.22 is an upgrade from Spectraview profiler originally supplied with a Spectraview monitor(1980). Maybe the upgrade process has retained the ability to hardware calibrate the PA ?

It's easy to check - just install basICColor 4.1.22 14 day trial on other computer and see if the "Hardware calibration (monitor LUTs)" function is still active there.

I really wish NEC would cut that nonsense. EIZO is introducing new EasyPix2 package, that's supposed to make hardware calibration in S/SX series - so maybe NEC EU will change his hardware calibration support policy.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 03, 2011, 05:34:35 am
It's easy to check - just install basICColor 4.1.22 14 day trial on other computer.......
"Easy" for you to write, but time consuming and difficult to actually do here.
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I really wish NEC would cut that nonsense. EIZO is introducing new EasyPix2 package, that's supposed to make hardware calibration in S/SX series - so maybe NEC EU will change his hardware calibration support policy.
I agree with the sentiment, but I'm sure it only seems a problem to anyone on forums who discovers the global differences in markets. In local isolation it all makes sense to NEC.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 03, 2011, 07:39:15 am
The NEC puck is only available in the same markets as Spectraview II software, so it's not available in Europe.

Am I correct to assume you can by an X-Rite i1 Display 2 in Europe?
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 03, 2011, 07:42:27 am
Not my experience. Basicolor 4.1.22 offers hardware and software calibration of my PA271.


I agree. I do hardware calibration on mine using BasicColor 4.1.22 - here in Canada.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 03, 2011, 07:44:52 am
Am I correct to assume you can by an X-Rite i1 Display 2 in Europe?
Yes.
Probably the best of the colorimeter choices, but from what I've read not exactly the same as the NEC puck.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 03, 2011, 07:47:54 am
I understand the dilema. A lot will depend on what hardware you already own to calibrate the monitor with and what your budget is.
Dismissing the NEC monitors on the basis of one, possibly over fussy, user report on a web forum is just daft. There are a lot of very satisfied users of the PA series monitors, both here and elsewhere.

One of the main assets of the PA series is that they arrive is a very, very good state and even just a simple software profile will bring the monitor to a very high standard of calibration. The internal hardware calibrations are just the icing on the cake that a lot of users wouldn't miss.

Also, in my experience NEC have brilliant after sales service in the UK. When my last Spectraview 1980 developed a fault after 10 months one call had a replacement couriered to me the next day under warranty. Any brand will have some failures, so do check what you can expect from other brands if the unlikely does happen.

Paul
in the UK

I agree. Unlike Apple Computer Inc, NEC has been very co-operative in trying to get the mini-DisplayPort disaster dealt with. We're not completely there yet, but they are working on it. I'm being very patient about it because I'm fine hooked-up with DVI to DVI. It's limited to 8 bit display pixel rendition, but so is OSX, so nothing really lost yet, but it is incorrect and needs to be fixed in anticipation of the day that Mac OS becomes 10-bit capable.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 03, 2011, 07:55:43 am
"Easy" for you to write, but time consuming and difficult to actually do here.I agree with the sentiment, but I'm sure it only seems a problem to anyone on forums who discovers the global differences in markets. In local isolation it all makes sense to NEC.

Of course as you know, nothing is isolated any longer. Look at us here!

And if what makes sense to NEC doesn't make sense to customers and the customers migrate elsewhere, what makes sense to both would eventually converge - but all big companies need time to assess the overall picture, take into account their current commitments and legal arrangements and make their decisions accordingly. In principle, from a customer perspective I think it makes the most sense - in a high end display market - to offer both the matrix and LUT-based profile options, make sure hardware calibration is possible on every display of the same model sold in any country, and assure that every one would be able to access an instrument capable of measuring the display gamut. Otherwise what's the point. 
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 03, 2011, 08:17:10 am
So, if I understand correctly,

1.  Here in Europe my most accurate option is to buy the Spectraview Reference 241 which comes with a hood and a rebranded version of BasicColor 4.1 (CHF1998).  And also buy a new, wide gamut colorimeter.  Nec iOne Display 2 ideally (US$199 plus shipping and import duties).  24” monitor totaling around US$2250.


2.  My cheaper option is to buy the PA271W (non spectraview) for CHF1545, a new wide gamut colorimeter and US Spectraview II software (bundled for US$299 from the NEC store), which can calibrate the hardware, but not as well as the option 1 above.  27” monitor at US$1920.

What would be the largest difference for me (aside from cost) in choosing the cheaper option?

Also, I’m working with a Mac Pro, can my graphics card handle these monitors?  Or am I going to also have to replace that?

(ps:  the Swiss franc is pretty much equal with the US dollar, that's why I just left the mixed currencies.)
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 03, 2011, 08:39:22 am
So, if I understand correctly,

1.  Here in Europe my most accurate option is to buy the Spectraview Reference 241 which comes with a hood and a rebranded version of BasicColor 4.1 (CHF1998).  And also buy a new, wide gamut colorimeter.  Nec iOne Display 2 ideally (US$199 plus shipping and import duties).  24” monitor totaling around US$2250.


2.  My cheaper option is to buy the PA271W (non spectraview) for CHF1545, a new wide gamut colorimeter and US Spectraview II software (bundled for US$299 from the NEC store), which can calibrate the hardware, but not as well as the option 1 above.  27” monitor at US$1920.

What would be the largest difference for me (aside from cost) in choosing the cheaper option?

Also, I’m working with a Mac Pro, can my graphics card handle these monitors?  Or am I going to also have to replace that?

(ps:  the Swiss franc is pretty much equal with the US dollar, that's why I just left the mixed currencies.)

You are comparing a 241 with a 271. The 241 is a smaller display and that accounts for most of the price difference.

As for the profiling options - between the US version Spectraview II and stand-alone BasicColor 4.1.22 - there is debate. Some people think the Spectraview solution is perfectly adequate, others prefer the BasicColor solution - including me. I have no experience with the NEC branded version of Spectraview (re-branded BasicColor) sold in Europe, so others would have to help you on that one.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 03, 2011, 09:01:17 am
Thanks Mark.  I was trying to keep the price of both options around $2000, that is why for the SV Reference monitor I had to drop down to 24".

Is this the correct colorimeter?   If so I can get it here, which is wonderful. :)
http://www.internet.ch/product_info.php?products_id=1506709&ad=Toppreise&language=en

So in the interest of comparing apples to apples, the SV Ref 271 would be chf2377 + 276 = chf2653.  ouch.  Worth every penny?  :)
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 03, 2011, 09:08:25 am
Thanks Mark.  I was trying to keep the price of both options around $2000, that is why for the SV Reference monitor I had to drop down to 24".

Is this the correct colorimeter?   If so I can get it here, which is wonderful. :)
http://www.internet.ch/product_info.php?products_id=1506709&ad=Toppreise&language=en

So in the interest of comparing apples to apples, the SV Ref 271 would be chf2377 + 276 = chf2653.  ouch.  Worth every penny?  :)

In the US the i1 Display2 is about 75 dollars cheaper, but by the time it ships and you pay Swiss customs etc, you are probably back to the Swiss price. But check the specs to see whether it will work with the display - the NEC PA series does not show in the Specs on the B&H website: http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/465156-REG/X_Rite_EODIS2_i1Display_2_Colorimeter_Monitor.html. I'm using the NEC branded version of this colorimeter, which of course does work with their display. I would defer to others who have tried the regular X-Rite i1Display2 with the PA series displays to say whether this combination really works. I don't see why it shouldn't, but then again, I don't see everything, and I wouldn't like to steer you into a decision I am not completely certain about.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 03, 2011, 09:18:25 am
So, if I understand correctly,
.......(bundled for US$299 from the NEC store)
That may be a problem. I don't think the US NEC store will ship to non-US destinations. However you might find a big US retailer like B+H will.

I guess the real issue here is whether the small difference in performance between the Spectraview specification and the calibrated PA specification is important to you.

I've not read any comparisons between these two options myself, but I suspect the differences are very small indeed and probably not worth bothering with. The extra screen size may be far more useful in the longer term.

Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 03, 2011, 09:26:00 am
Mark - I'm worried now that the xrite i1Display 2 colorimeter won't work with the PA271w screen.  As you say, it's not listed as a compatible line on their website.

http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=788&Action=Specifications

Does that mean I would have to have the NEC version sent out from the states??  What are all the other NEC PA series owners in Europe using to calibrate their monitors??

I guess the real issue here is whether the small difference in performance between the Spectraview specification and the calibrated PA specification is important to you.
I wish I knew the answer to this myself.  If I did, the decision would surely be easier. :)
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 03, 2011, 10:09:54 am
So after a lot of thought, I think I will buy the PA271w here and order from B&H the NEC colorimeter and Spectraview II software.

Now I think I better go ahead and order it before I have a chance to think anymore about it and change my mind!

Thank you very, very much for sharing your knowledge and advice to everyone who commented in this thread. :)
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: artobest on February 03, 2011, 11:40:07 am
Probably too late, but I have a Spectraview Reference 2690 (Euro version) and calibrate it with the standard i1D2. I get very, very good validation on my calibration with this puck. By comparison, a Spyder3 Elite produces poor validations and a greenish tinge.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 03, 2011, 12:56:21 pm
So after a lot of thought, I think I will buy the PA271w here and order from B&H the NEC colorimeter and Spectraview II software.

Now I think I better go ahead and order it before I have a chance to think anymore about it and change my mind!

Thank you very, very much for sharing your knowledge and advice to everyone who commented in this thread. :)

Athena - before you do that, i recommend you insure that the display they ship to Europe will work with the colorimeter and Spectraview software they supply in the USA. It sounds as if it should be no problem, but it is always best to know from someone who has tried this combination (European version display with American version calibration/profiling) that the two will play well together.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 03, 2011, 01:05:25 pm
It's not too late yet.  I had to run some errands and decided to let it settle in my brain for awhile (time to second guess myself?!)

If you scroll down to the second last post in this thread it's from a guy who did exactly what I have in mind.  Seems to be working splendidly for him. 

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat.asp?forum=1004&message=36244914&changemode=1

I'll give myself the evening to decide if I want to shell out that 800 or so more for the reference version.  I really do appreciate everyones help.  More than I can express with typed letters.

~A

ps:  I hope it's not against rules to link to a different forum.  If so I am very sorry.  No harm intended.

Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Enchanter on February 04, 2011, 02:31:37 am
Athena,

You could consider buying the PA271W with the SpectraViewII Colorimeter and Software directly from B & H who have a special deal available at present of $1,409.95 US. You have to add the item to the cart to see the special price. With freight to Switzerland the total is $1667.90 US. I don't know what custom charges you'd face at your end, however it would be worth checking out.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?ci=6559&N=4294542210+4291324108+4294949062

I did this about a month back and i'm very pleased with the monitor. The service from B & H was 1st class.

Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2011, 05:48:20 am
Athena,

You could consider buying the PA271W with the SpectraViewII Colorimeter and Software directly from B & H who have a special deal available at present of $1,409.95 US. You have to add the item to the cart to see the special price. With freight to Switzerland the total is $1667.90 US. I don't know what custom charges you'd face at your end, however it would be worth checking out.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?ci=6559&N=4294542210+4291324108+4294949062

I did this about a month back and i'm very pleased with the monitor. The service from B & H was 1st class.



Thank you for this suggestion.  I went ahead last night and ordered the monitor locally and the Spectraview II kit from B&H.  My concern about ordering the monitor from overseas was the warranty.  I'll be sure to report back about how it all works together once I get everything.

Actually the likelihood is that I'll be back here reading through everything to figure out the best way to get it perfectly calibrated.  I am hoping it will be easier my expectations.  Fingers crossed.

Thank you again to everyone for your wonderful advice and suggestions.

xx~A
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Mark D Segal on February 04, 2011, 09:32:43 am
Athena - before you do that, i recommend you insure that the display they ship to Europe will work with the colorimeter and Spectraview software they supply in the USA. It sounds as if it should be no problem, but it is always best to know from someone who has tried this combination (European version display with American version calibration/profiling) that the two will play well together.

Athena, further on this, please check the final pages of this thread, where some evidence of what works in Europe is presented: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=42040.100
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 04, 2011, 11:15:40 am
Thanks! :)  I just had a read through it and subscribed to it.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Athena on February 08, 2011, 03:59:05 am
Yesterday the colorimeter and software arrived from B&H and this morning the monitor has arrived.

So far I have it on the desk, but not connected to anything.  I was amazed at how heavy it is!
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: sakharov on February 17, 2011, 02:59:41 pm
Yes.
Probably the best of the colorimeter choices, but from what I've read not exactly the same as the NEC puck.
Standard i1 Display is not the best option for wide gamut display. I have a lot of examples this model generate really ugly profiles and makes wrong calibration for PA models.

By the way, SpectraView II software can makes hardware calibration for any type of European NEC PA models. I mean SpectraView model and cheaper one.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Rhossydd on February 18, 2011, 02:06:30 am
Standard i1 Display is not the best option for wide gamut display.
What would you consider better ?
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: howardm on February 18, 2011, 10:17:09 am
best would be a tuned i1D2 (ie. the NEC branded version) or a ColorMunki
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Jack Varney on February 20, 2011, 11:03:03 am
Question: Is a "Tuned NEC i1d2 colorimeter" suitable for calibrating/profiling non NEC monitors? If it is, would you use the Display 3 or the Spectraview software on the non NEC monitor?

I will be purchasing an NEC PA271 with the puck and Spectraview. If I can use the NEC puck on other monitors I plan to donate my GMB i1d2 to the local camera club.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: tgray on February 20, 2011, 11:46:58 am
As I understand it, the NEC puck has two modes, like other eye1 pucks.  The first is for regular LCDs and the second is reserved for wide gamut NEC displays.  I think they've replaced the CRT mode with their NEC display one.  So you should be able to calibrate other displays with the puck.  I don't know how it would fare with non-NEC wide gamut displays though.

I'm also pretty sure that you can't use the Spectraview software with non-NEC displays.  I downloaded Eye-One Match and it worked with the puck on my Dell display at work.
Title: Re: PA271W or Spectraview Reference 271
Post by: Jack Varney on February 20, 2011, 12:14:33 pm
Thank you for the response. I guess the best answer is to give it a try.