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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: eronald on November 11, 2010, 04:02:49 pm
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As the subject says, which point and shoot or compact mirrorless are you guys using?
Edmund
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Canon Powershot G11 - I wish I had the S95 ...
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As the subject says, which point and shoot or compact mirrorless are you guys using?
Edmund
I'm gonna buy a Canon s95. I owned a G9 and loved it.
RAW + Pocket = Winner.
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i only use point, compose and shoot cameras ...
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I use an S95 for daily carry around
Love it, can't wait for C1 to support the Raw files (what's taking so long :) )
The best part of this camera is you get decent files from it and can still keep it in a front jean pocket.
that's my vote...
am
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Olympus PEN E-P1.
Very pleased with it, but manual focus isn't easy if you should need to use it. If it had a bigger sensor, but kept all the features like live view, it'd be a killer MFDB.
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On rare occasions, Canon IXUS 915S and camera from my PDA
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Panasonic GF1 with the 20/1.7 for general carry. Great image quality, easy to carry over one shoulder.
For a tiny camera, the Panasonic ZS1, which is a 25-300mm equivalent, image stabilized, etc. Makes a great hiking camera. Image quality is on par with most p+s cameras (that is, not so great, but acceptable.)
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Panasonic GF1 with the 20/1.7 for general carry. Great image quality, easy to carry over one shoulder.
This was the conclusion of:
Click to see Topic "Quality Compact to complement MF" (http://www.luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?topic=43167.msg361565#msg361565)
I think I will buy one soon, with the big zoom and the 20/1.7.
Anything better on the market now?
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GF1 with 20/1.7 -- outstanding pocketable carry all the time cam, and then a G2 with the 14-140 zoom. UI and files from both/either are impressive for a small cam. (Admission: I actually shoot raw+jpeg with these, and cannot remember the last time I bothered processing a raw file from them -- the in-cam jpegs are that good if you take the time to tweak the "film style" settings to your taste. FWIW, for B&W I use "Dynamic" and dial sharpening and contrast back -1. For color, I use "Standard" and increase saturation +1.)
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I'm not a street photographer or point and shoot guy, but I own the GF1 and Leica M8.
I find the technical results virtually equal with these two camera.
Working them in post they look like the images came from the same camera.
Regardless:
I find the artistic results with the Leica 1000% better and I can't tell you why.
BC
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GF1 with 20mm f/1.7 or 14-45mm. Just a great fun camera...
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This might get quite boring but also the GF1 with the pancake lens,
looking to additionally buy the GH2 once released...
and the new Voigtländer 25mm f0.95 lens...
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I'm not a street photographer or point and shoot guy, but I own the GF1 and Leica M8.
I find the technical results virtually equal with these two camera.
Working them in post they look like the images came from the same camera.
Regardless:
I find the artistic results with the Leica 1000% better and I can't tell you why.
BC
Just out of curiosity, are you using the Leica lenses on the GF1?
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Just out of curiosity, are you using the Leica lenses on the GF1?
It may be me, but if you shoot for a few hours with that little panasonic, with the world's most unintuitive controls, then pick up the leica it's like having 200lbs lifted off your back.
I tried the Leica lenses on it, but it makes no sense trying to hand hold and focus a manual focus lens while squinting at an lcd on the back of a camera and I honestly couldn't see much difference.
I think people buy the Panasonic because it's small and oh yea, it also shoots ok video, but I don't think it really excels at anything.
IMO
BC
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Perhaps wait for the Fuji X100?
But be carefull of the sensor cleaning. Those cameras like the Dp1 I own, the Leica X1 and the Fuji are not tropicalized and dust will araised at one pont or another and it is anoying really because the only way is sending it back, wait and pay. This is a burden when it happens. For the kind of imagery you are doing, I recommend you to try one of those DP series, specially the DP1x.
With the distance, I think having direct access to the sensor is important. The Fuji is indeed "very good looking", but you may will have more for the money with one of these m4/3, and no dust hassle. IMO.
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G2 today but ask me next week and it maybe different. LOL
Been switching things up lately in regards to 35mm and P&S .
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I find the artistic results with the Leica 1000% better and I can't tell you why.
BC
Maybe it's because you instinctively take the Leica more seriously at the time of shooting?
How can you not be aware of the photo-heritage that rides on that name the minute you pick it up? I guess you can't disassociate yourself from that regardless of the other tools in your box.
I've never owned a Leica because work meant an slr was the way to go, but that never stopped me thinking it would have been nice to have one if they had been cheaper in terms of a system; who'd buy one with just a single optic, quickly followed with why buy a system you're not going to use to earn your living?
Which reminds me: I need to see a dentist; broke a filling some months ago and never seem to get around to thinking about it at the right time of day. Wonder why I thought of dentists?
;-)
Rob C
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G9 - Just purchased used, loving it so far....
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Maybe it's because you instinctively take the Leica more seriously at the time of shooting?
How can you not be aware of the photo-heritage that rides on that name the minute you pick it up? I guess you can't disassociate yourself from that regardless of the other tools in your box.
I've never owned a Leica because work meant an slr was the way to go, but that never stopped me thinking it would have been nice to have one if they had been cheaper in terms of a system; who'd buy one with just a single optic, quickly followed with why buy a system you're not going to use to earn your living?
Which reminds me: I need to see a dentist; broke a filling some months ago and never seem to get around to thinking about it at the right time of day. Wonder why I thought of dentists?
;-)
Rob C
I think the Leica rangefinder system is the cause. What really is extraordinary is the capacity to see out of the picture area when framing, so there is a sort of "personal involvement" if I might say that is unique to the Leica. In a dslr viewfinder you are stucked into 4 walls, in the Leica you breathe, you embrase more of the scenery and this has some consequences on the composition, the momentum.
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I think the Leica rangefinder system is the cause. What really is extraordinary is the capacity to see out of the picture area when framing, so there is a sort of "personal involvement" if I might say that is unique to the Leica. In a dslr viewfinder you are stucked into 4 walls, in the Leica you breathe, you embrase more of the scenery and this has some consequences on the composition, the momentum.
That's quite a division of ideas.
I chose the slr precisely because it isolated the subject, and the Nikon F because it was the only one to show FF without a hidden safety margin, which was where the Leica rangefinder fell apart: it was a guesstimated framing, with no suggestion of DOF at the touch of your stop-down button. I think that the slr still allowed a lot of understanding of what was just outside the fame - probably not at the critical moment of clicking, but by then, one already knew what the geography of the picture was.
But that was not photojournalism, which I agree is another sort of viewing altogether! But I didn't do it.
Rob C
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i use the sony nex with the 16 mm sony lens and a voightlaender 1,4/40. use it mostly manually and like it a lot beacause itbdont allow me tom" point and shoot" but force me to take photographs :)
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Fred, interesting thought, thanks.
The fact is, for the kind of imagery I'm doing, I'm not looking for any other camera.
In my less lucid moments these little models and the liberation they appear to promise is seductive, and then my brain kicks in. The little pocket rocket, always there, always available, but available to do what? I’m at a stage where I’m not looking to find myself, not looking to unburden, in fact, just the opposite. My work, for better or worse, is a result of looking in rather than out, the result of self imposed constraints rather than freedoms. I’ve been through the relentless search for truth only to find it was there anyway.
Perhaps at some point I will again fall into the arms of the seductress, the pretty little thing, but if past experiences are anything to go by it won’t be the making of me.
Gosh.
You are absolutly right. I'm doing candid from time to time but this is not my work but a "personal training". The question you ask is exactly the same I'm thinking about. For what? Would I purchase another compact after the DP1? probably the only aplication that I'm seeing is as a note-book, also recording audio.
As you say, I also have my less lucid moments where the other day I saw that Fuji and thought: Whao! then, when lucidity went back, the for what question emerged.
Why I was pointing the DP series for your works? well, just because if used as a note-book it can delivers an imagery that will give you the closer look in that range of cameras to your real working tool, so in that sense it is probably the most coherent in terms of image output. Also, the DP are not point and shoot cameras, there are small slow manual cameras that oblige to think twice or more. Many people have complained about that fact. They are very different animals than the rest of the compacts. I know for example some arquitecture photographers that only work first with a DP1 for taking notes because the lens is stellar, very precise and clean, no AA filter and IQ style has a lot to do with the equipment they will use for the proper works (MF backs). Iso starts at 50 and better stop at 400...800 is great for certain B&W works but no 2 in the morning party at 3200 with the Sigma, no! I've purchased one new in shop for the ridiculous price of 300euros (because the 1 is outdated now they released the 1x) and really I can't use any other compact after experienced the IQ those Sigmas are capable to deliver. Prints, in reasonable size 20x30, are nothing less but gorgeous. This is not a toy camera but a proper camera capable of producing stunning results in the right hands with a lot of limitations that chalenge enough to not feel oneself one happy snapper.
Cheers.
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I have the Canon S90 and have recommended it to many friends. We all love it. I plan on upgrading to the S95 for HD video. It truly is the best point and shoot i have ever used. The images are awesome and it has many setting options....most important to me was the ability to dial down the flash output to make flash not look like flash.
Good Luck!