Luminous Landscape Forum
Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: walter.sk on July 26, 2010, 10:55:27 am
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A friend emailed me a link to a new HDR/RAW processing program. I looked at the website and downloaded the beta version (unfortunately, Windows only). They have still another approach to merging to HDR, and, like HDR PhotoStudio (now HDRExpose) they appear to deal with luminance separately from color. While all of their features are not yet implemented, I tried a couple of my own HDR sequences and found the results quite good, and the program is quite intuitive. A major feature is that you can adjust tone mapping and color without increasing the local contrast, and the process seems very halo-resistant.
They seem to be onto something good here.
They also have a processor for 2 or more images taken with different light sources but at consistent shutter speed and aperture, that then allows individual adjustment of areas in the image illuminated by each of the light sources in terms of tonal level and color balance, independently of the other areas in the image. Very interesting!
here is the link:
HDR beta (http://www.oloneo.com)
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I've been playing with Oloneo for, probably, a couple weeks now. It's a pretty impressive piece of software. There are some glitches - it is a beta after all. But there are a lot of things to like. The HDR Relight feature looks interesting but I'm not entirely sure how it will work in real world conditions. It's not a feature that's combined with the regular HDR functionality. It's a separate shooting workflow. I hope to have a review on my blog by the end of the week (minus the Relight feature).
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It looks interesting but when I try and load 3 5DII raw files for ToneMapping I always get an error saying there is insufficient memory. Which is not an issue with my computer setup. Or is it that it won't ToneMap raw files? It doesn't say it can't, but I can't seem to get it to work with raw files.
Also it will work from tiffs but will not save the result as a tiff. Every time I try to save as a tiff I get another error message and a saved file that PS can't open.
So does this only work at this point with JPEGS? If so it will not be of much use to pros.
The acid test for these programs is achieving a natural looking "inside-out" interior building shot looking out a window.This program is quick but the HDR results in the preview (as far as I can get with a TIFF) seem difficult to achieve a truly natural looking effect on an "inside-out" as with all HDR programs.
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It'll definitely handle RAW files. I wonder, if perhaps, the RAW conversion engine they're using might not be fully up to date.
I'd send them an email or report it as a bug.
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Wow, that ReLight video is some scifi photography...
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Wow, that ReLight video is some scifi photography...
It does look pretty slick. Again, in real world conditions, I'm not sure of the practicality. Take the example of a room lit with windows and artificial sources. Even with the interior room lights on, there are going to be dark, underexposed areas picked up by the sensor that our eye/brain combination compensates for. While the intensity (exposure) of the various light sources can be adjusted with the Relight feature, there is a limit. If you expose for the light sources and place them at the limit of your exposure, pushing them up further will lead to them being blown out. In the example shown in their video of the light over the kitchen range, it's a shot of a limited area. You can see the problem though to the left of the stove which is dark. There just aren't enough lights, typically, in place to sufficiently illuminate. Plus, if the photographer has to run around turning lights on and off for different shots (in a discussion with the developer at Oloneo he says it can be done with two shots in most cases but I can't confirm or refute that), it's additional time spent on the shoot and time is money. If the client is paying by the hour, the client's cost goes up and the client isn't happy. If the client is paying a flat rate, the photog's hourly rate goes down and the photog isn't happy.
As I said, great idea, great concept and without a shadow of a doubt an incredible bit of programming; but not sure how useful. Maybe my thought will change after I try it out but at the moment, I'm skeptical.
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It looks interesting but when I try and load 3 5DII raw files for ToneMapping I always get an error saying there is insufficient memory. Which is not an issue with my computer setup. Or is it that it won't ToneMap raw files? It doesn't say it can't, but I can't seem to get it to work with raw files.
I think I saw a note that the beta is still not compatible with the 5FII raw files.
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Wow, that ReLight video is some scifi photography...
I do not think so... in the video, you can see that there is a separate photograph for each light source (including one for the ambient light);
under that conditions, I do not feel ReLight does nothing that could not be done using layers.
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I do not think so... in the video, you can see that there is a separate photograph for each light source (including one for the ambient light);
under that conditions, I do not feel ReLight does nothing that could not be done using layers.
OK. I'd be interested in seeing that. Why not have a go and let's see if it can?