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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on July 12, 2010, 06:57:27 pm

Title: A swamp scene
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on July 12, 2010, 06:57:27 pm
The image was taken from a little bridge leading over the waters.

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Title: A swamp scene
Post by: popnfresh on July 13, 2010, 06:55:58 pm
A little judicious cropping might help here. The part of the shot I find visually interesting is the bright green foliage in the foreground that's partially overhanging the water. The stuff in the left quarter of the frame isn't really doing anything for the composition.
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: Hans Kruse on July 13, 2010, 07:41:32 pm
Quote from: ChristophC
The image was taken from a little bridge leading over the waters.

I can't really find anything interesting about this shot, sorry
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: francois on July 14, 2010, 05:11:25 am
Quote from: popnfresh
A little judicious cropping might help here. The part of the shot I find visually interesting is the bright green foliage in the foreground that's partially overhanging the water. The stuff in the left quarter of the frame isn't really doing anything for the composition.
There's too many things going on in that image. As you popnfresh suggested, a crop would possiby bring out the strong aspects.
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on July 14, 2010, 07:36:21 am
I agree with the cropping suggestion, I'll do another crop when back home.
The image already is a crop, about 70-80% I estimate.
But the crop has not been consequent enough.

I was hesitating to cut into the water at the left side and I wanted to save that little branch
in the lower left corner, but some healthy mercilessness would have helped here..

And probably, again I have not consequently enough developed the image.
I would not say there is nothing interesting about it, at least I myself found something interesting,
but it appears I couldn't express it properly.

What I liked most were the lines of the twigs and the peaceful diffuse light on the leaves, mixed with the detail on them. I also like the greens.
I am not sure if this image would need some huge printing to bring that out.

And - btw - I see an important difference, depending on the monitor.
The image looks way better on my Eizo CG 243w, than on my office monitor.
The light and the greens come out much better there.
So - I believe I really have to make a print to see if the image could work or not.
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on July 17, 2010, 03:53:19 pm
I tried another change - changed the postprocessing and the cropping.
This is much nearer to what I intended, but I think I can do better in future.
Its funny - often the inner idea of the picture just biases the view on the existing image.
I find it quite difficult to keep a sort of objective eye on my work.

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Title: A swamp scene
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 17, 2010, 06:17:30 pm
Quote from: ChristophC
Its funny - often the inner idea of the picture just biases the view on the existing image.
I find it quite difficult to keep a sort of objective eye on my work.
The combination of eye and brain can perform miracles on scenes: it can change colour balance, remove intrusive objects and focus on minutiae which are annoying and distracting in the final image.

As to objectivity, join the club! That's why I, for one, find this forum invaluable. Sometimes the comments I get hurt a bit and sometimes, despite trying to see it from the commenter's point of view, I disagree with them but there's always something to be gained from a critical eye that's not owned by the chap who pressed the shutter release.

Jeremy
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: popnfresh on July 17, 2010, 08:22:49 pm
Quote from: ChristophC
I tried another change - changed the postprocessing and the cropping.
This is much nearer to what I intended, but I think I can do better in future.
Its funny - often the inner idea of the picture just biases the view on the existing image.
I find it quite difficult to keep a sort of objective eye on my work.

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I think this is a big improvement. Good work!
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: popnfresh on July 17, 2010, 08:27:15 pm
Quote from: kikashi
As to objectivity, join the club! That's why I, for one, find this forum invaluable. Sometimes the comments I get hurt a bit and sometimes, despite trying to see it from the commenter's point of view, I disagree with them but there's always something to be gained from a critical eye that's not owned by the chap who pressed the shutter release.
I don't believe in objectivity, especially when it comes to creative work. Commenters, myself included, are always expressing their opinion, not objective facts. You can take it or leave it. At the end of the day it always comes down to what you think of your picture. When one is serious about creating art, hopefully over time we get better at producing work that resonates with others. But even then it's only a matter of collective opinion.
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on July 18, 2010, 03:23:31 am
Quote from: popnfresh
I don't believe in objectivity, especially when it comes to creative work. Commenters, myself included, are always expressing their opinion, not objective facts. You can take it or leave it. At the end of the day it always comes down to what you think of your picture. When one is serious about creating art, hopefully over time we get better at producing work that resonates with others. But even then it's only a matter of collective opinion.
That's true; but sometimes other people's subjective opinions of my photos are more objective than my subjective opinions  

Jeremy
Title: A swamp scene
Post by: Christoph C. Feldhaim on July 18, 2010, 03:48:01 am
Its just good at times to get a view outside oneself once one gets captured inside the labyrinth of personal weirdness ...