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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: David Sutton on June 07, 2010, 08:52:49 pm
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I see it's available for download in he UK
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cf...room&loc=uk (https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_lightroom&loc=uk)
Can't see it elsewhere yet
Edit: When you go to the US site and click on version 2 and "buy", it's version3 comes up. The web sites haven't been updated.
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I see it's available for download in he UK
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cf...room&loc=uk (https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_lightroom&loc=uk)
Can't see it elsewhere yet
Edit: When you go to the US site and click on version 2 and "buy", it's version3 comes up. The web sites haven't been updated.
I just checked http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/ (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/) and sure enough if you click on buy it comes Lightroom 3.
This is via the US site.
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I see it's available for download in he UK
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cf...room&loc=uk (https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/tdrc/index.cfm?product=photoshop_lightroom&loc=uk)
Can't see it elsewhere yet
Edit: When you go to the US site and click on version 2 and "buy", it's version3 comes up. The web sites haven't been updated.
Thanks for the heads up. I downloaded the British trial version. And then I decided to not be such an idiot and downloaded the upgrade.
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Thanks for the heads up. I downloaded the British trial version.
It did state Lightroom 3 trail however when I downloaded it was Lightroom 2.
This is in the US so maybe they have not loaded everything yet and just changed the text.
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I just checked http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/ (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshoplightroom/) and sure enough if you click on buy it comes Lightroom 3.
This is via the US site.
A surprise for me. I ordered it and for the first time ever Adobe is letting me download it to Mexico.
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A surprise for me. I ordered it and for the first time ever Adobe is letting me download it to Mexico.
I just tried to download the trial version however it downloaded Lightroom 2 even though it stated 3.
So maybe they are still in the process of updating the US site.
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Can someone who has downloaded 3 check if it has softproofing please? I'm on the road on my iPhone and can't check
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Well, I paid for something and that something is downloading now. I'll see what it is soon enough...
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Can someone who has downloaded 3 check if it has softproofing please? I'm on the road on my iPhone and can't check
Doesn't look like it, but not sure where to look. The print module looks just like 3b.
Dave
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Somehow I don't think that they were quite ready to go live with this yet. On the main product page it is still all LR2. You click on the free trial button and it says LR3 at the top, but LR2 below it. More significant, though, the download itself is version 2. I suspect we caught the changing of the guard and it was not supposed to be officially released until tomorrow. A little time will tell.
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Somehow I don't think that they were quite ready to go live with this yet. On the main product page it is still all LR2. You click on the free trial button and it says LR3 at the top, but LR2 below it. More significant, though, the download itself is version 2. I suspect we caught the changing of the guard and it was not supposed to be officially released until tomorrow. A little time will tell.
I found out the same thing. Did the trail download Lightroom 3 but it turned out to be Lightroom 2 after downloading.
They must be in the middle up updating the site.
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I downloaded 3 from the US site 30 min ago.
Dave
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Doesn't look like it, but not sure where to look. The print module looks just like 3b.
Dave
I imagine it would be in the right hand print panel near the bottom where u select a profile. Doesn't sound to promising though if it looks the same as the beta.... Not happy if it's not there
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I imagine it would be in the right hand print panel near the bottom where u select a profile. Doesn't sound to promising though if it looks the same as the beta.... Not happy if it's not there
It's not there. Doesn't bother me much; my printer has a wider gamut than my screen in many places, so not sure what I would be soft proofing anyway.
Dave
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I imagine it would be in the right hand print panel near the bottom where u select a profile. Doesn't sound to promising though if it looks the same as the beta.... Not happy if it's not there
I'm not seeing anything different, but have a look for yourself:
[attachment=22462:Screen_s...19.30_PM.png]
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Here's a screen shot...
[attachment=22463:LR3ssprint.jpg]
Edit: Oops, Griffin beat me to it.
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Everything seems the same as 3 beta 2. I don't see any soft proofing unless I'm missing something. Big disappointment to me anyway. eleanor
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I'm not seeing anything different, but have a look for yourself:
[attachment=22462:Screen_s...19.30_PM.png]
Sigh.....softproofing was a bighope for me....I am disapointed.
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Everything seems the same as 3 beta 2. I don't see any soft proofing unless I'm missing something. Big disappointment to me anyway. eleanor
The main difference between beta 2 is the lens corrections, which we already know about. Very nice, but a few Canon lenses are missing that I assumed would be there: 90TS and 200 f/2.8 I've noticed so far.
Dave
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Here's a screen shot...
[attachment=22463:LR3ssprint.jpg]
Edit: Oops, Griffin beat me to it.
Just wondering if you purchased LR3 or did you get the trail version?
I downloaded the trail version that I thought was LR3 but it turned out to be LR2.
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Just wondering if you purchased LR3 or did you get the trail version?
I downloaded the trail version that I thought was LR3 but it turned out to be LR2.
I bought it.
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Just wondering if you purchased LR3 or did you get the trail version?
I downloaded the trail version that I thought was LR3 but it turned out to be LR2.
Can't speak for dchew, but I purchased mine. The automatic lens corrections alone were worth the upgrade price. The native tethering will also be really helpful for certain types of work I do.
The help document still points to the beta help so I'm wondering if adobe might have let this one out a bit early. In any case I'm glad I've got it.
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I bought it.
OK thanks!
One question? Where you able to import your LR2 Catalogs into LR3?
You could not do that with LR3 Beta.
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I imported 3b catalogs, but the pdf says you can import LR2 catalogs. It will ask you if you want to upgrade when you open the old catalog.
Dave
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Here's what it asks when you upgrade a LR2 cat:
[attachment=22465:upgrade.jpg]
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I imported 3b catalogs, but the pdf says you can import LR2 catalogs. It will ask you if you want to upgrade when you open the old catalog.
Dave
Thanks Dave!
Guess I will just go ahead and purchase the upgrade version LR3.
By the way did you delete LR3 Beta before installing LR3?
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It imported both my LR2 and LR3 beta 2 catalogs without a problem. I didn't delete the beta or LR2 before installing.
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LR 3 Beta 2 seems to have disappeared. I don't recall explicitly uninstalling it first.
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Dark,
On my 64bit Win7 3B2 was left installed,but on the laptop wth 32bit the install removed 3B2. I saw the icon disappear from the Desktop.
On both systems 2.7 is still installed.
Rich
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what needs to be corrected in a 90TS or 200 2.8?
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LR3 help files are online at
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/index.html (http://help.adobe.com/en_US/Lightroom/3.0/Using/index.html)
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Pffff... I ordered it. Yes, it converts LR2 libraries. One tiny problem. I live in the Netherlands and am forced to buy via the Dutch store. No problem but if I mention I want to have the English version I am kind of disappointed to find out the delivered version is Dutch. I can understand Dutch since I am native Dutch but having worked with English software for so long I have real difficulties understanding the Dutch terms
I guess these are the kind of things my expat friends are always complaining about.
Ok, solved. I had my OS on Dutch. Lightroom 3 will automatically use that language (which LR2 did not do). No problem, I set the OS to English as well. It does make sense at some level even though I prefer to be able to make my own decisions about which piece of software I want to use in what language.
I like the fact my plug-ins are still working!
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what needs to be corrected in a 90TS or 200 2.8?
Not much probably, but I would think there is some small amounts of vignetting and/or distortion that could be fixed. It certainly changes images from other lenses. The 35 f/1.4 and the 70-200 change noticeably, as does the 180 macro (that one surprised me). Not doing the 90TS makes sense since applying any shift will mess up the correction. After spending more time this morning I see it is no where near an exhaustive list of canned lens profiles at least for Canon lenses. Not that that's a problem; they seem to have done a good job selecting a combination of lenses that either need it most or are popular.
I'll be making my own profiles over the next few weeks and report on any surprises. I want to do 2 Zeiss wide angles first, since they could benefit from distortion and vignetting corrections (and clicking one simple button is wonderful). I'm especially curious if it will correct the 21's mustache distortion.
Dave
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Just an FYI, the Public Beta Page now directs you to the Lightroom 3 Official Page on Adobe.com
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This upgrade from v2.x to v3.0 was the smoothest. No problems at all.
Will uninstall v2.7 after I have used v3.0 for awhile.
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This upgrade from v2.x to v3.0 was the smoothest. No problems at all.
Will uninstall v2.7 after I have used v3.0 for awhile.
Agreed (and on a positive note soft proofing aside) - a very smooth upgrade. Particularly impressed at the way 3.0 respects plug ins such as Portraiture and pre-existing droplets and presets. Adobe to be commended for this.
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Agreed (and on a positive note soft proofing aside) - a very smooth upgrade. Particularly impressed at the way 3.0 respects plug ins such as Portraiture and pre-existing droplets and presets. Adobe to be commended for this.
+1, no problem at all.
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I can also now add that the upgrade went very smooth.
Took about a minute to change the catalog from LR2 to LR3.
I just clicked on the link the first time I started LR3.
Now I should state that my entire library is located on an external 500BG portable firewire 800 drive.
Running on a MacBook Pro 2.66 8GB DDR3 Ram (June 2009).
Have well over 20 thousand images and all files showed up in LR3.
All keywords, meta data and so on is in LR3 now.
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No problems here either.
To those who may have misgivings, think about it like this: if Lightroom 3 came out of a clear blue sky without the Beta 3 experience, everybody would be delirious!
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No problems here either.
To those who may have misgivings, think about it like this: if Lightroom 3 came out of a clear blue sky without the Beta 3 experience, everybody would be delirious!
Yeah, I'd been waiting to get hold of the LR3 features for real. The rendering changes were enough for me. I thought about this for about 0.000001 seconds before hauling out the CC.
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The dilemma is this: should you haul out the CC (to quote Dark) for PS5 as well? In Europe, it's an issue, considering the continuing decline of the Euro. For you lucky consumers in the US, be happy. Between both apps, there' a lot going on.
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Anybody know if tethering with a PhaseOne back works or is it only dslr's?
Thanks
Snook
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Snook,
Right now only certain Canons and Nikons.
Rich
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OK... Thanks
Snook
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We didn’t get soft proofing in this version. Hopefully 4.0.
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The dilemma is this: should you haul out the CC (to quote Dark) for PS5 as well? In Europe, it's an issue, considering the continuing decline of the Euro. For you lucky consumers in the US, be happy. Between both apps, there' a lot going on.
Had they held off on LR3 for a few more days I'd have ordered CS5. (Trial would have run out.) As it is I'm not so keen on upgrading to CS5 right now. I'm sure I will. Just not sure when.
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This is a cross post, but I did discover that if you upgrade to CS5 and Lightroom 3 you get the $30 off of Lightroom - even though the website makes it seem like you only get the discount if you buy a full version of CS5. This is in the US store...
Cheers,
*steve
Had they held off on LR3 for a few more days I'd have ordered CS5. (Trial would have run out.) As it is I'm not so keen on upgrading to CS5 right now. I'm sure I will. Just not sure when.
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The full release's Automatic Lens Profiling of my Canon 24-105 is pretty amazing.
It appears to minimally increase the size of the image
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The full release's Automatic Lens Profiling of my Canon 24-105 is pretty amazing.
It appears to minimally increase the size of the image
But it doesn't...if you look at the image dimensions, they do not change when you enable the lens corrections.
What I don't like about applying corrections like this is that LR3 has to create new pixels from nothing (as opposed to tilting & cropping.)
For some Canon lenses, there are two profiles: an Adobe profile and a Canon profile. In many instances, they do not produce the same image. Does anyone have the scoop on this?
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But it doesn't...if you look at the image dimensions, they do not change when you enable the lens corrections.
What I don't like about applying corrections like this is that LR3 has to create new pixels from nothing (as opposed to tilting & cropping.)
For some Canon lenses, there are two profiles: an Adobe profile and a Canon profile. In many instances, they do not produce the same image. Does anyone have the scoop on this?
The instance in whcih the image appeared" to have had a minimal increase in size was due I believe to the correction including the reduction or elimination of some pincushioning.
the pair of profiles, as you mentioned seems a bit odd
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Just installed LR3 this morning and now using it to edit a new shoot. All I can say is WOW!. The speed difference when using the tools in the develop module is significant. I have been toying with the idea of getting a Mac Pro to replace my Macbook Pro as LR2 just seemed to be a bit too slow when working on lots of pictures such as a wedding shoot. I seemed to spend too much time waiting for tools to take effect, may be just a second a time, but when working at speed on 500 consecutive pictures it was getting frustrating. Now the whole experience is more snappy. Not had time to use other modules yet, but the speed increase may have just saved me £2500 on a new Mac!
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i'm sorry, i don't get this - LR3 has lens correction, but only from CS5 ??!!
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i'm sorry, i don't get this - LR3 has lens correction, but only from CS5 ??!!
When you select “Edit with Photoshop”, LR doesn’t have to render out the data like it did in 1.0, instead it uses ACR to do this and open the doc in Photoshop. So obviously the version of ACR running in Photoshop has to be in sync with the raw processing features in LR. So say you have CS4 and LR3. That older version of ACR doesn’t have lens correction so it will not be applied although you can still use the “Edit in Photoshop” command. The alternative is to render out from LR itself (Export). Then open in Photoshop and of course, you’ll get your lens correction.
This architecture is kind of nice because Adobe doesn’t force you to upgrade Photoshop to match LR. But if the two are in sync, its faster to have the option to use the Edit in Photoshop option.
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i'm sorry, i don't get this - LR3 has lens correction, but only from CS5 ??!!
I think you're confused here. Lens correction IS available in LR3.
As I understand it, the reference to CS5 is with respect to the lens correction module in LR not being able to access the pool of extra user uploaded lens calibration profiles. The lack of this facility might just be an oversight that's rectified in future bugs fixes.
It's another question if that is something you need anyway. User supplied profiles might be very good or, if poorly made, worse than the defaults.
I assume that it's possible to build your own with the lens profiler download from Adobe labs and install them into LR3.
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in general, i'm not interested in verifying the goodness of somebody's correction, however i'm presently testing a Voigtlander 20 and pretty much like what i see - except the mustache distortion - don't expect this lens to be supported by Adobe
has anyone tried the profiler on wide angle "mustache" lenses? my experience is that wide angle lenses require quite large targets for testing and extremely careful camera alignment
will probably download 3 this weekend but not interested in spending a lot of time on a low probability project
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Yes, I have tried building a profile for wide-angle manual lenses (roughly 18 mm to 21 mm on 35 mm full frame cameras) with complex / moustache / wave distortion, and the resulting profile works well -- i.e., the mixed pincushion/barrel distortion both get factored out and the resulting image has straight lines.
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Good stuff IMO and I am very pleased that at last the distortion control is in here. Also very pleased that Adobe has addressed the NR issues and a lot of good work gone into this release.
LR3 is now almost exactly what I have been looking for well done!
Nice to see a company take feedback seriously it's really helped the product overall
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LR3 is now almost exactly what I have been looking for well done!
Agreed.
Just waiting for soft proofing now, but I suppose Adobe will hold that one to ensure a good number of upgraders on version 4.
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Does anyone have any idea why Lightroom 3 has no soft proofing options? Thanks, Eleanor
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Hi Eleanor,
I agree it's a pity that there is no soft proof in LR3, still I see some advantages with L3, one is the new processing pipeline which maintains sharpness better than the old one. The two other great things is a noise reduction that actually works and the new lens corrections.
I posted my experiments with the new processing pipeline (based on LR3 Beta 2) here: http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/index.ph...htroom-3-beta-2 (http://echophoto.dnsalias.net/ekr/index.php/photoarticles/32-new-raw-processing-pipeline-in-lightroom-3-beta-2)
Best regards
Erik
Does anyone have any idea why Lightroom 3 has no soft proofing options? Thanks, Eleanor
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When you select “Edit with Photoshop”, LR doesn’t have to render out the data like it did in 1.0, instead it uses ACR to do this and open the doc in Photoshop. So obviously the version of ACR running in Photoshop has to be in sync with the raw processing features in LR. So say you have CS4 and LR3. That older version of ACR doesn’t have lens correction so it will not be applied although you can still use the “Edit in Photoshop” command. The alternative is to render out from LR itself (Export). Then open in Photoshop and of course, you’ll get your lens correction.
This architecture is kind of nice because Adobe doesn’t force you to upgrade Photoshop to match LR. But if the two are in sync, its faster to have the option to use the Edit in Photoshop option.
How come we don't have an option to open in ACR when we select "Edit with Photoshop"? Unless I'm missing something, we're forced to finish the RAW edit in LightRoom. I imagine I could open it as a smart object...