Luminous Landscape Forum
Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Camera Raw Q&A => Topic started by: madmanchan on May 13, 2010, 12:46:50 pm
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Hi folks,
A release candidate version of Camera Raw 6.1 is now available on the Adobe Labs site:
http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Camera_Raw_6.1 (http://labs.adobe.com/wiki/index.php/Camera_Raw_6.1)
Contains some new camera support, plus the lens corrections tools that Tom Hogarty previously demonstrated here:
http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/20...ection_sol.html (http://blogs.adobe.com/lightroomjournal/2010/04/preview_of_lens_correction_sol.html)
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Great, thanks Eric!
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Ditto for me!
I'm really enjoying the changes in Photoshop CS4.
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Annnnd?
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Annnnd?
Doesn't "Annnnd" mean the same as "so what!"
Whats your point?
Eric,
A special thank you for you taking the time to post this link, as we all know this has been your baby this last year.
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Doesn't "Annnnd" mean the same as "so what!"
No.
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I think it means ' so, tell us what you think'. But I could be wrong
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I think it means ' so, tell us what you think'. But I could be wrong
You're not.
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Well, it hasn't crashed yet. ACR 6.0 was crashing about half the time I tried to process raw files. So that's a major plus. The lens correction tools are very cool -- and I see they have most of my lenses on the list. All in all, great job.
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Quick comparison of a section from a 17-40L (F4)
Uncorrected
DPP
C1
ACR6.1 Adobe profile
ACR6.1 Canon profile
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quick question about the lens correction:
Is ACR 'smart' enough to apply the correction based on the EXIF data? Or do you have to select the lens from a list each time you process a file?
Better NR and lens correction. Hmmm.....is this gonna make me spend countless hours re-processing all my RAWs?
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Is ACR 'smart' enough to apply the correction based on the EXIF data?
Yes...assuming a lens profile exists...you can use the manual controls in the event there isn't a profile.
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quick question about the lens correction:
Is ACR 'smart' enough to apply the correction based on the EXIF data? Or do you have to select the lens from a list each time you process a file?
It has to be enabled first in ACR 6.1. Then you have the choice of default, auto or custom.
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The new features in 6.1 are great.
However, the handling of both the Hand Tool and the Scroll Bar have gone to the dogs - both in 6.0 and 6.1 (I'm PC/Vista x64bit)
Smooth flowing they ain't, unfortunately. I've read that opening files via CS5 improves this, but my workflow is built around Bridge, so that's a non-starter for me.
Pity.
Maybe they'll sort it out.
D.
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I still get lockups going right into ACR. Better with 6.1 but still a problem.
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The automatic lens correction is by far the most useful feature for me, but some lenses still don't have profiles (e.g. Canon 24mm F1.4 L II) and it looks like some profiles are less than perfect. It leaves some chromatic aberration on shots taken with my old Canon 20D and 10-22mm lens. Hopefully these issues will be resolved in time.
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You can make your own custom profiles with Adobe's Lens Profile Creator:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lensprofile_creator/ (http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/lensprofile_creator/)
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System: Vista x64bit.
Was prompted to install Bridge and ACR updates yesterday, which I did.
Further impressions.............
1. ACR 6.1 is the slowest ACR I've used. It is always playing catch-up. Any adjustments made appear after the fact.
2. However, I've had no crashes.
3. The lens correction feature is excellent. When I'm not using the 1Ds or Hasselblad, I use my beloved G9. Lens correction for this is superb. I take the point made above about some chromatic abberration remaining -sometimes. But, after using the auto setting, I have tried clicking on the Manual tab and choosing Defringe: All Edges. This appears to do the trick.
Any suggestions about Bridge/ACR settings/preferences to address questions about speed and smoothness. To be honest, I'm so much concerned about speed as the clunkiness (lack of smoothness) of the way ACR is now working.
Thanks.
D.
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I'm also finding the speed much slower however I can see that it's due to the applying lens corrections by default, it's a lot of work going into each file.
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Ben,
You're right!
I don't apply by default. I apply manually, as in, I tick Enable Lens Profile Corrections and make the relevant selections.
I've just tried working on a file without the lens corrections in place and it's a smooth as glass!
So, the solution seems to be to apply the lens corrections at the very end of the workflow, just before saving out the file.
Thanks!
D.
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After installing, a couple of questions.
1 I set my brushes to precise and when I paint the brush edges disappear in CS% but didn't before. Is this a bug?
2 When switching color modes the image for a split seconds turns a weird color and then goes back to what it should look like. Makes comparisons very difficult. Is this a bug? Can't imagine what good this could be
Thanks
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Ben,
You're right!
I don't apply by default. I apply manually, as in, I tick Enable Lens Profile Corrections and make the relevant selections.
I've just tried working on a file without the lens corrections in place and it's a smooth as glass!
So, the solution seems to be to apply the lens corrections at the very end of the workflow, just before saving out the file.
Thanks!
D.
Just processed a full wedding in ACR 6.1 so I have more of an idea. It seems, at least for me, that the sharpening of the preview (at all zooms) is what is really slowing ACR down. Using the Local Adjustment Brush I'm having to wait for a couple of seconds to see the effect of what I've just painted which is annoying as heck as it's no longer real time. Makes it very very hard to do. I can see ACR apply the brush then apply the sharpening and it's just taking too long.
Does anyone know if there is any way to switch off the sharpening except at 100% like in the old ACR? I know it makes for a more accurate preview which I enjoy but it's making using some tools almost unworkeable.
I also have the dreaded semi circle brush. In CS4 this problem disappeared by disabling GPU, it's disabled in CS5 but I still have the problem.
Few other niggles, you can't save '2003 processing' as a default, it's significantly slower to open RAW files from ACR to PS, etc.
Sigh..
That said, Lens correction tools are very very nice to have, having the automatic vignetting correction as well as distortion was a real treat! The colour even with my old profiles is a lot better especially in the faces and mixed lighting, adobe's weak point in the past IMO. I don't want to go back but I do want it to work as well as CS4 without the problems such as lag and half circles.
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2nd Wedding processed and it's remarkably slow, especially when PS is batching files in the background and the Local Adjustment Brush is painful to use due to the huge lag and the half circle brush. I'm comparing to CS4.
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Ben, I read somewhere (might even have been in this thread?) that the lens corrections can really slow things down, so you should do lens corrections after you have done all your other adjustmetns. I know that I have experienced the same redraw lag that is extrememly annoying since you can't judge the effect of what you are doing while you are doing it. And I'm on a fairly speedy quad core too. I have not yet had the chance to test out my theory, but it could be a starting point for you.
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Got a 3rd wedding I need to process today (been backing up ), I'll try turning off the lens corrections first. I'll report back.
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Hello everyone. I have a question about using DNG Converter 5.x now that Photoshop CS5, Camera Raw 6.x and DNG Converter 6.x have been released.
I have lots of DNG files that were converted using DNG Converter 5.4 up till 5.7. I have been post processing in Photoshop CS4, but now that CS5 has been released, I am thinking of upgrading in order to use the improved noise reduction.
My question is: will I be able to re-post-process the DNG files converted using DNG Converter 5.4 to 5.7, using Photoshop CS5 and Camera Raw 6.x, and be able to take advantage of the improvements in the 6.x versions?
Or do I need to convert all my original raw files using DNG Converter 6.x?
Please let me know if I have not described my situation properly. Thank you.
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TK,
You do not need to reconvert your files. They will work just fine in 6.1 as they are.
Rich