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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: yaya on March 31, 2010, 06:49:31 am
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Link (http://www.leaf-photography.com/products_aptus210r.asp)
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Hooray! Now just revive the AFi camera and everything will be good again
Seriously though, a good effort to revive a good idea, but in practice how easily does the rotation dial work? Is it geared or do you need to spin it a full 90 degrees? It's nice (and surprising) to see owners of older square format cameras being considered and catered for with this product. But aren't there already rotating plates for the RZ made by Kapture Group etc?
Ben
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It is good to see an other company creating a back any V system user was hoping for. Hasselblad made a 39Mp back that can not be rotated: so if you want vertical images, simply rotate your 503CW..... hello, what are they thinking? Looks like a great back for all V-adaptable camera's. Well done Leaf, you keep surprising me.
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Hooray! Now just revive the AFi camera and everything will be good again
Seriously though, a good effort to revive a good idea, but in practice how easily does the rotation dial work? Is it geared or do you need to spin it a full 90 degrees? It's nice (and surprising) to see owners of older square format cameras being considered and catered for with this product. But aren't there already rotating plates for the RZ made by Kapture Group etc?
Ben
It's a helluva lot easier than taking the back off, rotating it and re-mounting it. Less risk of dust or damage to the IR filter plus all the menus, leads and access to CF card remain upright.
It is really easy, takes 2-3 smooth throws with your thumb (or finger, there are two dials). I'll see if I can get a clip up quickly.
For the RZ we make a rotating adapter (for V, M/P1 and H backs) but think about ALPA, Arca-Swiss, Cambo, Sinar, Linhof etc. plus RB, Bronica and all those 500-series cameras out there!!!
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The back with the only internal rotating sensor on the market....
They have forgotten the Cantare XY
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I like the idea for the H. Solves the dreaded lack of a vertical grip as well
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I like the idea for the H. Solves the dreaded lack of a vertical grip as well
Not for the H though (or any 645 format camera). There are some limitations which restrict that solution. The vertical grip issue will be solved for Phase One 645 users however with the upcoming vertical grip....
Steve Hendrix
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Pity. I was hoping that:
i) it would be using a 56x42mm sensor, (but it's the same odd format 56x36mm they have used in the past)
ii) the back would support the AFi/Hy6, but it doesn't.
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Link (http://www.leaf-photography.com/products_aptus210r.asp)
Yair, is that or any another Leaf back has Sinar M mount?
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Yair, is that or any another Leaf back has Sinar M mount?
Hi Evgeny,
The simple answer is no but perhaps Sinar can now make new mounts for the M as they've done for the arTec?!
Yair
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Hi Evgeny,
The simple answer is no but perhaps Sinar can now make new mounts for the M as they've done for the arTec?!
Yair
Thanks, I will ask Sinar as well.
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Yair,
Is it compatible with the 555eld?
Toda raba.
Schmal.
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Yair,
Is it compatible with the 555eld?
Toda raba.
Schmal.
yes
chag sameach
Yair
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well done... but still need the synchro cable ?
on one hand you have the hasselblad's back that does't need the cable but can't turn, on the other you need the cable...
By the way,
i quite like my 50 CFi, 80 CB, 100 CFi with my 22MP back... but my rodenstock lenses on my RM3D are sharper already with my aptus 22...
so how do V lenses perform with a 56MP back ? compare to mamiya 645 AFD ?
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56x36... i prefer 36x48 ratio... lets wait for a 56x48 ;-)
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well done... but still need the synchro cable ?
Yes and I personally prefer having a single cable that allows me to change shutter speed on any mechanical lens as I go and to shoot spontaneously over any other signal-transfer method...
Yair
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Yes and I personally prefer having a single cable that allows me to change shutter speed on any mechanical lens as I go and to shoot spontaneously over any other signal-transfer method...
Yair
i prefer to have both ;-)
By the way, i'm looking for a cable for my 503CW and aptus 22... without the spiral shape !
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Gosh... I've done a full circle initially starting from the humble Leaf 11mp. Hope there is a good trade-in for my CF39: "the parable of the podigal son"
Well done...!
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Er, yes - but how much is it? (Price)
John
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Er, yes - but how much is it? (Price)
John
rumoured at USD33,700? (but that's before 12noon 1st April)...
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rumoured at USD33,700? (but that's before 12noon 1st April)...
Right (gulp). Lots, then.
John
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It's a helluva lot easier than taking the back off, rotating it and re-mounting it. Less risk of dust or damage to the IR filter plus all the menus, leads and access to CF card remain upright.
It is really easy, takes 2-3 smooth throws with your thumb (or finger, there are two dials). I'll see if I can get a clip up quickly.
For the RZ we make a rotating adapter (for V, M/P1 and H backs) but think about ALPA, Arca-Swiss, Cambo, Sinar, Linhof etc. plus RB, Bronica and all those 500-series cameras out there!!!
I fully agree with Yair. I am using the Leaf AFi-II 7 with rotating sensor and it works like a charm. I would not consider the solution of taking off the back, turning and mounting it again. Too much risk for dust etc. The rotating sensor is a brilliant idea.
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rumoured at USD33,700? (but that's before 12noon 1st April)...
List price of the Aptus II 10R is $32,494.
The original Aptus II 10 remains in the lineup of course, but its price was lowered from $32,494 to $30,490.
There are trade-in opportunities for both of these units.
Steve Hendrix
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Steve/Yair
SUPER! I now have the Leaf 75 back and Alpa frame. Sounds great to be able to rotate without taking the back off. But, I am wondering how they hold the very precision position of the sensor. I use a very thin shim between the present back and adapter for precise focus. Is there any test info yet?
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Steve/Yair
SUPER! I now have the Leaf 75 back and Alpa frame. Sounds great to be able to rotate without taking the back off. But, I am wondering how they hold the very precision position of the sensor. I use a very thin shim between the present back and adapter for precise focus. Is there any test info yet?
Hi Dave,
Leaf has been using rotation sensors since 1998. These backs were the Leaf Volare, Cantare and Cantare XY. More recently we used this technology in the AFi-II 7 and AFi-II 10 camera systems.
The mechanism is very simply and very robust, with very high level of precision and no apparent compromise in terms of accuracy.
HTH
Yair
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I am getting the first production unit next week and will be demonstrating it across Europe.
Starting in Wendlingen, Germany on Thursday 29/4 More info (http://www.leaf-deutschland.de/Events.html) and then in Stuttgart on 7-8/5 More info (http://www.pic-verband.com/Workshops/2.-Workshop-7.-8.-Mai-2010-in-Stuttgart)
Hope to see some of you there
Yair
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I fully agree with Yair. I am using the Leaf AFi-II 7 with rotating sensor and it works like a charm. I would not consider the solution of taking off the back, turning and mounting it again. Too much risk for dust etc. The rotating sensor is a brilliant idea.
+1. Surprisingly, without issues whatsoever. Works like a dream.
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It is great that leaf comes out with new backs....but why don't they reply to emails ( I send 3 over the last week or so)..... asking a very simple question: how much do I have to pay when upgrading my 65 for a II-6
maybe you (YAYA) can make sure I get someone contacting me!
thanks
Nicolaas
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It is great that leaf comes out with new backs....but why don't they reply to emails ( I send 3 over the last week or so)..... asking a very simple question: how much do I have to pay when upgrading my 65 for a II-6
maybe you (YAYA) can make sure I get someone contacting me!
thanks
Nicolaas
Hi Nicolaas,
I'm not sure which part of the world you are in and/ or whom did you send the email to, but we usually respond very quickly. Please bear in mind that some of us were on the road during the Volcano disaster with limited email access...
Anyway, the trade-in from an Aptus 65 to an Aptus-II 6 in Europe is listed at €7,996
HTH
Yair
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Hi Yair
thanks for the quick reply i am in california la area and used the link on the leaf website
will wait and see and maybe start looking into a hasselblad system they seem to have better deals going on
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thanks for the quick reply i am in california la area and used the link on the leaf website
will wait and see and maybe start looking into a hasselblad system they seem to have better deals going on
Maybe you could see how long it takes to get a quote from us :-). I bet it's pretty quick :-).
I would definitely agree it's a good idea to take a thorough look at Hasselblad in addition to Leaf. They make great products with their own set of advantages and disadvantages. I would also selfishly add Phase One to that list of things to look at. I also strongly advocate finding the right product for your needs and then trying to find the best deal, rather than vice versa. A great deal for equipment that doesn't well suit what you do is not a good deal at all. Note that we (Capture Integration) sell Leaf and Phase One but not Hasselblad.
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