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Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 26, 2010, 01:13:46 pm
How much longer is this winter going to last?

Since nobody seems in a hurry to send me there anymore, I shall just relive some Bahamian dreams.

; - (

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Jeremy Payne on March 26, 2010, 01:16:57 pm
For once, Rob, I applaud your post!

:-P
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Jeremy Payne on March 26, 2010, 01:48:20 pm
Quote from: Rob C
How much longer is this winter going to last?

Not much longer!  For us Americans, Major League Baseball is almost here ... and I'm down in Florida watching a bit of spring training ...

[attachment=21070:_JSP2731.jpg]

If anyone is interested, the gloves are, from left to right:

Arod's, Jeter's and Teixeira's ...
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: ckimmerle on March 26, 2010, 01:49:35 pm
Rob, we have the same dreams!
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: ckimmerle on March 26, 2010, 01:50:55 pm
So, Rob offers photos of boob, Jeremy offers photos of balls? I'll go with Rob
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Jeremy Payne on March 26, 2010, 02:31:07 pm
Quote from: ckimmerle
So, Rob offers photos of boob, Jeremy offers photos of balls? I'll go with Rob
Guess it could have been worse ... could have been a bat!
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Chairman Bill on March 26, 2010, 03:16:29 pm
Quote from: Rob C
... I shall just relive some Bahamian dreams ...

I could comment on the type of dream, but concern for those of you of delicate sensibilities prevents me  

Tissues anyone?
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 26, 2010, 03:22:58 pm
It reminds me of Bond, Dr NO, the scene on the beach...
The problem we have here Rob, is that winter is normally so dry and sunny that this year has been really really painfull.
I'm fed up also. Rain, cold, we did not have 1 entire week of sun since december...  

Now, we could do nudes on the snow.
mmm...  

Fred.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 26, 2010, 03:27:24 pm
And to add some glamour and sun to the topic,
this is a picture I took not a long time ago in Madrid.
I'm sure it will put all your senses on the red zone!  

[attachment=21071:gasc_alone3.jpg]

I'm a bad boy...and i like it!

Fred
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 26, 2010, 03:32:24 pm
ha ha ha...
another one I just found in my winter 2010 glamour collection

[attachment=21072:snow2.jpg]

Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 26, 2010, 04:10:19 pm
Nice shooting, Fred, we had snow for one morning here in Mallorca too, just recently, but then it turned into water except on the mountains where it hung about for a few days looking all Swiss or Sierra Nevada (España edition). However, it did prompt the local press into renting a chopper and covering the island for pics which they ran for days.

Whenever it snows or rains here I dare not go onto the roads because the local people do not understand much about braking distances; every year the fuzz has to mount rescues up on the mountain roads and whenever it rains in Palma somebody drives into a traffic light and blacks out the system. Actually, snow did lie up there for several weeks last year - it looks nice from sea level where I live, but I am too familiar with it to feel any desire to join it. Part of my fear of snow conditions comes from an experience many years ago when my wife was expecting our first child. We were driving up (hoping to ski) to Perthshire from Glasgow when, just north of Perth, we met a right-hand bend with a truck parked right on the apex beside the doorway of a cottage. It was uphill, I doubt I was even doing 15mph, but when I steered slightly towards the centre of the bend to avoid the truck, I lost the tail and then over-corrected. This spun it around the opposite way - too far - and we hit the snow piled on the verge. The car stopped, rolled onto its side and out popped a rear side window and I also managed to snap my prized Motorola aerial off the top of the rear wing. My wife ended up sitting on top of my head (RHD in the UK), eight months pregnant, and rather heavier than I expected. Anyway, the truck people dashed out and pulled her out through the side and led her into the cottage. I was left as I was and I must admit to feeling a bit peeved about that at the time; damn it, I had lost my Motorola. (Anyway, she went full term and everything was fine, though I can't vouch for the long-term effects on myself.) No, I didn't ski: we went back home since the car was facing in that direction anyway.

As I say, I love snow.

Well, Jeremy, thank goodness we can agree on something!

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 27, 2010, 06:29:23 pm
Quote from: Rob C
Nice shooting, Fred, we had snow for one morning here in Mallorca too, just recently, but then it turned into water except on the mountains where it hung about for a few days looking all Swiss or Sierra Nevada (España edition). However, it did prompt the local press into renting a chopper and covering the island for pics which they ran for days.

Whenever it snows or rains here I dare not go onto the roads because the local people do not understand much about braking distances; every year the fuzz has to mount rescues up on the mountain roads and whenever it rains in Palma somebody drives into a traffic light and blacks out the system. Actually, snow did lie up there for several weeks last year - it looks nice from sea level where I live, but I am too familiar with it to feel any desire to join it. Part of my fear of snow conditions comes from an experience many years ago when my wife was expecting our first child. We were driving up (hoping to ski) to Perthshire from Glasgow when, just north of Perth, we met a right-hand bend with a truck parked right on the apex beside the doorway of a cottage. It was uphill, I doubt I was even doing 15mph, but when I steered slightly towards the centre of the bend to avoid the truck, I lost the tail and then over-corrected. This spun it around the opposite way - too far - and we hit the snow piled on the verge. The car stopped, rolled onto its side and out popped a rear side window and I also managed to snap my prized Motorola aerial off the top of the rear wing. My wife ended up sitting on top of my head (RHD in the UK), eight months pregnant, and rather heavier than I expected. Anyway, the truck people dashed out and pulled her out through the side and led her into the cottage. I was left as I was and I must admit to feeling a bit peeved about that at the time; damn it, I had lost my Motorola. (Anyway, she went full term and everything was fine, though I can't vouch for the long-term effects on myself.) No, I didn't ski: we went back home since the car was facing in that direction anyway.

As I say, I love snow.

Well, Jeremy, thank goodness we can agree on something!

Rob C
   
When I stayed in Jurançon for a while, I used to go skiing regularly in Gourette. That was fun. But now I do not like snow like before, specially here in Spain. One thing is being in Canada where all is prepared for snow conditions, but in Spain it is just a comic show.
As you pointed, many crashes on traffic lights...

Cheers,

Fred.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 30, 2010, 10:51:14 am
Just to continue letting you see the results of the recent copying of old Ektachrome 120s with the D700.

The transparencies were all left in the cardboard mounts because no replacements were available - made copying even more difficult.

This one was for Glayva Liqueur's Calendar some time in the 70s and shot in Lanzarote. It was 'blad with 150 Sonnar plus a Softar on the front. I find that composition seems to fit whichever format you end up using - no doubt the same location would have provided either vertical or horizontal shots too: you pays your money and you takes your choice.

Do you recognize the location, Michael?

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 30, 2010, 12:08:21 pm
Quote from: Rob C
Just to continue letting you see the results of the recent copying of old Ektachrome 120s with the D700.

The transparencies were all left in the cardboard mounts because no replacements were available - made copying even more difficult.

This one was for Glayva Liqueur's Calendar some time in the 70s and shot in Lanzarote. It was 'blad with 150 Sonnar plus a Softar on the front. I find that composition seems to fit whichever format you end up using - no doubt the same location would have provided either vertical or horizontal shots too: you pays your money and you takes your choice.

Do you recognize the location, Michael?

Rob C
I'm not Michael but I can't resist.
Can I make a bet?

Well to me it looks like: Los Jameos del Agua.

Cheers,

Fred.

Title: Winter Blues
Post by: PeterAit on March 30, 2010, 01:10:42 pm
Quote from: Rob C
How much longer is this winter going to last?

Since nobody seems in a hurry to send me there anymore, I shall just relive some Bahamian dreams.

; - (

Rob C

Not to be mean, but it's 65 degrees and sunny here in North Carolina.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 30, 2010, 02:15:30 pm
Quote from: fredjeang
I'm not Michael but I can't resist.
Can I make a bet?

Well to me it looks like: Los Jameos del Agua.

Cheers,

Fred.



Fred, I owe you a bottle of Jurançon!

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: ckimmerle on March 30, 2010, 02:27:53 pm
Quote from: Rob C
This one was for Glayva Liqueur's Calendar some time in the 70s and shot in Lanzarote. I

I'm beginning to understand why you like photographing people so much. If I had more subjects like that, I might give up on landscapes altogether.

As for winter, I miss it already.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 30, 2010, 02:32:19 pm
Quote from: Rob C
Fred, I owe you a bottle of Jurançon!

Rob C
Ok Rob!
We'll drink it to the Lanzarote ladies, and, I hope, the return of the sun.

I recognized it because I was there about 4 years ago, and this is a very carachteristic place.
Enjoyed very much Lanzarote.

Cheers,

Fred.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 30, 2010, 03:07:31 pm
Fred

This one I don't think you will know, but stamper might if he is looking here.

Barbour Threads Calendar a zillion years ago - another Ektachrome 6x6 copied on D700.

As an aside, I have been having heavy magenta casts on all of these copies, and I was starting to wonder if that ruby light that bleeps when you use the Nikon with M/U and self-timer actually comes on at the moment of exposure. Being so close to the subject it would show the reflection/glow if it does, indeed, light at the crucial moment.

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 30, 2010, 04:03:23 pm
Quote from: Rob C
Fred

This one I don't think you will know, but stamper might if he is looking here.

Barbour Threads Calendar a zillion years ago - another Ektachrome 6x6 copied on D700.

As an aside, I have been having heavy magenta casts on all of these copies, and I was starting to wonder if that ruby light that bleeps when you use the Nikon with M/U and self-timer actually comes on at the moment of exposure. Being so close to the subject it would show the reflection/glow if it does, indeed, light at the crucial moment.

Rob C
mmm...
I bet that this could be: Kelvingrove or Alexandra park???

Fred.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: stamper on March 31, 2010, 04:25:43 am
Quote from: Rob C
Fred

This one I don't think you will know, but stamper might if he is looking here.

Barbour Threads Calendar a zillion years ago - another Ektachrome 6x6 copied on D700.

As an aside, I have been having heavy magenta casts on all of these copies, and I was starting to wonder if that ruby light that bleeps when you use the Nikon with M/U and self-timer actually comes on at the moment of exposure. Being so close to the subject it would show the reflection/glow if it does, indeed, light at the crucial moment.

Rob C

Despite getting old I don't recognize it. It could be anywhere? I used to have a Barbour jacket but they aren't in fashion any more. As to Kelvingrove park I have been in it dozens of times taking photographs but I haven't seen anything like it. An area worth visiting because there are good opportunities at different times of the year for photographs.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: stamper on March 31, 2010, 04:27:06 am
Quote from: fredjeang
mmm...
I bet that this could be: Kelvingrove or Alexandra park???

Fred.

You are a long way from Madrid fred. Are you familiar with the locations?
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 31, 2010, 05:13:58 am
Quote from: fredjeang
mmm...
I bet that this could be: Kelvingrove or Alexandra park???

Fred.





Nope, guys, both incorrect: grounds of Pollok House - the most used location by every Glasgow snapper with a need for the great outdoors! They even used to serve a nice lunch there at one time, though long after we left we visited for old time's sake and the concession had shifted - for the worse!

I have often thought how wonderful a location that would be (the building) for anyone wanting to do an old 'charme' offensive - Fred will understand the difference (huge) between charme and glamour.

Do you remember Goldbergs, stamper? We shot a brochure there for them, too, a while before they went bust. I had nothing to do with that - certainly not my fees - on the contrary, it was like drawing teeth! Another brochure we did there was for Hudson's Pantry (interesting olde worlde kitchen with all the utensils) - the wife/partner/owner had a black version, Lido, of my then X1/9.

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: stamper on March 31, 2010, 05:58:01 am
I think I have been in Pollock grounds three times. Certainly a nice location but the - imo - Burrell collection is over rated. As to Goldbergs I remember it well. The two pubs in the lane are now closed. The Mitre and I think the other was the fox and hounds. And on the other side Granny Blacks got pulled down. Not the nicest of stores, I preferred Lewis's. Have you been to the Kelvingrove museum in recent years. They done it up about five years ago and is worth a visit.

[attachment=21171:Kelvingrove_Museum.jpg]
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 31, 2010, 07:14:01 am
Quote from: stamper
You are a long way from Madrid fred. Are you familiar with the locations?
Unfortunatly not Stamper.

Scotland is a place that I want to visit, I pass through many years ago and I remember the particular light.
Weather was changing every half and hour. People are great, I had some scotish friends in Paris,
thy are very different than the english, curiously kind of mediteraneans mind.
This is a location where I could live, and always fascinated me.

My bet was motivated by the Rob's Jurançon wine collection.
So when Rob said that I probably do not know this location and asked you, I suspect that it was in Glasgow.
I took the google map of the city and looked for parks, and finaly took my chance with these 2 parks.

So Rob, you won the tapas that goes with the Jurançon.

Cheers,

Fred.

Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 31, 2010, 11:28:55 am
Quote from: stamper
I think I have been in Pollock grounds three times. Certainly a nice location but the - imo - Burrell collection is over rated. As to Goldbergs I remember it well. The two pubs in the lane are now closed. The Mitre and I think the other was the fox and hounds. And on the other side Granny Blacks got pulled down. Not the nicest of stores, I preferred Lewis's. Have you been to the Kelvingrove museum in recent years. They done it up about five years ago and is worth a visit.

[attachment=21171:Kelvingrove_Museum.jpg]



A funny note to that: I once wandered over to the record counter, already having entered the store to see the client, and tried to buy an LP. They were stunned: didn't want or seem to know how to do a real cash sale! The other funny moment was with my son: he was quite a photogenic kid and had no fear of cameras - conditioning, obviously enough - and there was a 60"x40" blowup of him on a point-of-sales display stand, but he was kicked out of the store for having gone in not knowing that they had introduced a 'no unaccompanied children' policy. He didn't have the presence of mind to point to the image...

Rob C

Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 31, 2010, 11:39:41 am
Quote from: stamper
I think I have been in Pollock grounds three times. Certainly a nice location but the - imo - Burrell collection is over rated. As to Goldbergs I remember it well. The two pubs in the lane are now closed. The Mitre and I think the other was the fox and hounds. And on the other side Granny Blacks got pulled down. Not the nicest of stores, I preferred Lewis's. Have you been to the Kelvingrove museum in recent years. They done it up about five years ago and is worth a visit.
[attachment=21171:Kelvingrove_Museum.jpg]



No, haven't been back at all for a few years now, but I knew the old K very well indeed. My cousin and I used to spend a lot of time there looking at paintings and then buying poscards of them and later, at home, attempting to make our own versions of Van Gogh, Dali and some of the others. He, the cousin, ended up in art school but I as a photographer once I realised that I, unlike he, would never have the skills to make it with paint. But is was certainly those trips to the K and earlier influence from mother and aunt that pushed me unintentionally towards a life of pictures. Funny how male influence only ever got my back up!

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on March 31, 2010, 03:24:54 pm
Quote from: PeterAit
Not to be mean, but it's 65 degrees and sunny here in North Carolina.
 

Fred.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on March 31, 2010, 04:50:14 pm
Quote from: PeterAit
Not to be mean, but it's 65 degrees and sunny here in North Carolina.





Dang, Pete, it was also sunny in Calas de Mallorca a hundred years ago - well, maybe thirty-five or so?

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: stamper on April 01, 2010, 04:19:34 am
Quote from: Rob C
Dang, Pete, it was also sunny in Calas de Mallorca a hundred years ago - well, maybe thirty-five or so?

Rob C

Rob do you have a website where I can look at the rest of these "beauties" ? Getting back to the original post Scotland this week was hit hit by another blizzard, which was as bad or even worse than what was experienced in the winter.

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1671626 (http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1671626).

This will hopefully be the "sting in the tail" and next week the spring will get under way for real?  
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on April 01, 2010, 05:05:36 am
Quote from: stamper
Rob do you have a website where I can look at the rest of these "beauties" ? Getting back to the original post Scotland this week was hit hit by another blizzard, which was as bad or even worse than what was experienced in the winter.

http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1671626 (http://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/Article.aspx/1671626).

This will hopefully be the "sting in the tail" and next week the spring will get under way for real?




stamper

The answer to your website question is yes and no. If you turn your dial to robcphotos.com  you will find my site and a white page. The reason is simple: I know nothing about making websites and I had a friend offer to set one up for me. The trouble is, though he seems to know how to do this, I discovered that the images I had put up during the trial setting-up period were not working. Nothing was really crisp and I don't know why. I thought it was impossible for such accidents to happen with a digital file - how does it go soft without intentional manipulation? I realised that it wasn't going to do me any good at all showing unsharp pics and so I called it off. The reason I wanted a site in the first place was in order to try and get something to pay for my printing! You see? Ex-pros can think exactly like amateurs in the right circumstances!

I realise that I could go to other, pro services, but as with clients that won't pay for pro photography, I can't afford to run a website where I have to pay monthly fees and for somebody to change pictures for me either. Were I still working, that would be a different matter - just as buying nice cars was - you could partly set it against tax. Learning HTML etc. is for young minds; I feel fortunate when I am able keep a conversation on track for more than three minutes!

;-)

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on April 01, 2010, 06:09:20 am
Quote from: Rob C
stamper

The answer to your website question is yes and no. If you turn your dial to robcphotos.com  you will find my site and a white page. The reason is simple: I know nothing about making websites and I had a friend offer to set one up for me. The trouble is, though he seems to know how to do this, I discovered that the images I had put up during the trial setting-up period were not working. Nothing was really crisp and I don't know why. I thought it was impossible for such accidents to happen with a digital file - how does it go soft without intentional manipulation? I realised that it wasn't going to do me any good at all showing unsharp pics and so I called it off. The reason I wanted a site in the first place was in order to try and get something to pay for my printing! You see? Ex-pros can think exactly like amateurs in the right circumstances!

I realise that I could go to other, pro services, but as with clients that won't pay for pro photography, I can't afford to run a website where I have to pay monthly fees and for somebody to change pictures for me either. Were I still working, that would be a different matter - just as buying nice cars was - you could partly set it against tax. Learning HTML etc. is for young minds; I feel fortunate when I am able keep a conversation on track for more than three minutes!

;-)

Rob C
Hi Rob,
There is a system (there are) now that use Ajax and are free,
wich means that there is a control panel so easy to use that a 4 year old kid would built an all website in 1 day.
These are totally intuitives (drag and drop) and the level of integration is really interesting.
Nothing to do with wordpress etc...this technology is actually the future for small-medium websites.
There is a european one and an american one, the last being the best. Based in silicon Valley.
It is so easy that I can help you from here in any problem in a second.
You can sell prints through paypal.
Everything is automatized and highly customizable.

Go to Weebly.com
Open a free account and start.
Use one of their (horrible) design, then send me a mail about how you would like the web to look like and I trick the CSS in half an hour and you'll have your design resolved.
Any question about "how to do the things" you can give me a call and I tell you with great pleasure.
I mean, it is so easy that you'll be amazed what you can do with this.
You have total control on everything, and no limits in the pictures you add, and they are sharp.

Cheers,

Fred.














Title: Winter Blues
Post by: ckimmerle on April 01, 2010, 09:32:55 am
Quote from: Rob C
The trouble is, though he seems to know how to do this, I discovered that the images I had put up during the trial setting-up period were not working. Nothing was really crisp and I don't know why. I thought it was impossible for such accidents to happen with a digital file - how does it go soft without intentional manipulation?

It might not have been a "mistake" as much as inexperienced scripting. I'm just guessing, of course, but think your friend may have been using javascript, or something similar, to resize all of the photos. The results can be quite bad.

Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on April 01, 2010, 09:54:32 am
Quote from: ckimmerle
It might not have been a "mistake" as much as inexperienced scripting. I'm just guessing, of course, but think your friend may have been using javascript, or something similar, to resize all of the photos. The results can be quite bad.
O yes, NEVER resized through script the images for the web, except with certain scripts in flash.

Fred.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on April 01, 2010, 04:09:50 pm
Thanks for the advice on websites, guys.

The chap asked me to send him the straight files - I suppose he meant Photoshop ones - but I didn't want to risk putting that stuff outwith my control, so I sent him jpegs to the final size to avoid him changing the sizes in any way at all. Perhaps that turns out to have been my own fault, then? I just don't get much of this technical stuff at all.

Anyway, over on Discussing Photographic Styles, under On Colour as a temporal anchor, I have stuck another shot with a little quiz attached; might amuse some of you?

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on April 02, 2010, 06:20:04 am
Quote from: Rob C
Thanks for the advice on websites, guys.

The chap asked me to send him the straight files - I suppose he meant Photoshop ones - but I didn't want to risk putting that stuff outwith my control, so I sent him jpegs to the final size to avoid him changing the sizes in any way at all. Perhaps that turns out to have been my own fault, then? I just don't get much of this technical stuff at all.

Anyway, over on Discussing Photographic Styles, under On Colour as a temporal anchor, I have stuck another shot with a little quiz attached; might amuse some of you?

Rob C
Yes Rob, you did it well to send the jpeg(s) at the size you wanted and not the Raw.

Cheers.

Fred.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on April 09, 2010, 11:57:49 am
Rob, it is back!!!!
I thought it has abandoned us, I did not remember how sweet it was: OUR SUN!
I'm going shooting today.

Cheers.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on April 10, 2010, 04:06:27 am
Quote from: fredjeang
Rob, it is back!!!!
I thought it has abandoned us, I did not remember how sweet it was: OUR SUN!
I'm going shooting today.

Cheers.




You see? Madrid wins again!

Yesterday was cold here, but today the sun is out and shining brightly. Better, my daughter is coming out today to stay with me for a week!

Ciao

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on May 13, 2010, 06:56:08 am
Rob,
13th of may: I'm freezing !

When this surrealistic ice-age is going to end?

(Here in Spain there is a law to save energy and you can not heat after a certain date).
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on May 18, 2010, 05:03:37 pm
Quote from: fredjeang
Rob,
13th of may: I'm freezing !

When this surrealistic ice-age is going to end?

(Here in Spain there is a law to save energy and you can not heat after a certain date).




Fred, the Spanish advice I have had is simple: never shed your warm clothing until 40th of May.

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: EduPerez on May 19, 2010, 05:29:26 am
Quote from: fredjeang
Rob,
13th of may: I'm freezing !

When this surrealistic ice-age is going to end?

(Here in Spain there is a law to save energy and you can not heat after a certain date).

Uh? I never heard of such law before!
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on May 19, 2010, 05:45:29 am
Quote from: EduPerez
Uh? I never heard of such law before!
Yes, it is a law in the Madrid community  that after a certain date (not sure if it is the 1 of may) buildings that have community heating (not in the case that you have an individual heating) putting back the heating is possible but you have to do some administrative stuffs. They wanted to dissuaded the people from consuming abuse. So as it is the case in our building, everybody was freezed.
It is not that you can not do it, it is that they put it complicated in order to save energy.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on May 19, 2010, 08:54:04 am
There are local laws in Mallorca about the times when you are allowed to burn open fires in the countryside; if you disobey and burn out of season, you tend to find that fire-fighter planes or helicopters come around and drop people's swimming pool contents on your head, or they scoop up the Bay of Pollensa and dose you with salt water instead... very wise!

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: EduPerez on May 20, 2010, 02:18:21 am
Quote from: fredjeang
Yes, it is a law in the Madrid community  that after a certain date (not sure if it is the 1 of may) buildings that have community heating (not in the case that you have an individual heating) putting back the heating is possible but you have to do some administrative stuffs. They wanted to dissuaded the people from consuming abuse. So as it is the case in our building, everybody was freezed.
It is not that you can not do it, it is that they put it complicated in order to save energy.

Never underestimate what you can learn in a photography forum!


Quote from: Rob C
There are local laws in Mallorca about the times when you are allowed to burn open fires in the countryside; if you disobey and burn out of season, you tend to find that fire-fighter planes or helicopters come around and drop people's swimming pool contents on your head, or they scoop up the Bay of Pollensa and dose you with salt water instead... very wise!

Rob C

I do not think "fredjeang" was referring to that kind of "heating" in his post... but I know the case of someone, who lives in a flat, and celebrated a BBQ in the middle of his living room.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on May 20, 2010, 03:47:18 am
Quote from: EduPerez
Never underestimate what you can learn in a photography forum!




I do not think "fredjeang" was referring to that kind of "heating" in his post... but I know the case of someone, who lives in a flat, and celebrated a BBQ in the middle of his living room.




Hi Eduardo

I'd make two points:

a. I think that is one of the great advantages of (the current model) LuLa - it is fairly free-form;

b. We have people in Britain who do that BBQ thing on a regular basis: they vote beyond their number for the ultra-left and are called 'squatters'. I have never heard of them being visited by either helicopters or fire-fighting Canadian aircraft, though. As a counterbalance, Civil Rights lawyers, I understand, are frequent guests to the banquets. (I think they bring their own champagne socialism with them.)

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on May 20, 2010, 06:09:15 am
Now I understand why Edu did not know the heating law: he does not live in Spain!  

Ok ok, you have Messi...we had Zidane. Wheel is turning.
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on May 20, 2010, 09:11:34 am
Quote from: fredjeang
Now I understand why Edu did not know the heating law: he does not live in Spain!



Which comes as a great surprise to all those migrants from Malaga, much as it did in the 30s!

At which point I close, since I know even less about European politics than those charged with running them. And that's saying something! (The secret truth is that nobody knows about current European politics: they only know about the old stuff, pre-€, when it was in more or less manageable chunks of real estate. Now, it is in its self-induced meltdown of a marriage that was divorced from fiscal reality even before it was consumated. Speaking of consumation, we were nearly all effed, but not quite! I wish the peseta was back.)

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: EduPerez on May 22, 2010, 11:18:11 am
Quote from: fredjeang
Now I understand why Edu did not know the heating law: he does not live in Spain!  

Ok ok, you have Messi...we had Zidane. Wheel is turning.

WHAT!? Do I have to post a picture of myself, in front of a roundabout, to prove my origins!?
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: Rob C on May 22, 2010, 12:01:13 pm
Quote from: EduPerez
WHAT!? Do I have to post a picture of myself, in front of a roundabout, to prove my origins!?


Eduardo

If it's the one outside the Ferry Terminal it would be a risk too far, even to prove your credentials; anyway, how would anyone know you weren't a tourist, just off the ferry, as the saying goes?

There are those would like to see the entire Barça team posing there... I do not include myself among the wishers because I know as little about football as I do about MF digital. Or probably about any form of the beast, come to think about it.

Rob C
Title: Winter Blues
Post by: fredjeang on May 22, 2010, 03:05:08 pm
Quote from: EduPerez
WHAT!? Do I have to post a picture of myself, in front of a roundabout, to prove my origins!?
Edu, I was teasing you. Everyday here I hear that Cataluña is not Spain...so I start to think it is true.