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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: wolfnowl on March 24, 2010, 01:11:29 am
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First Lightroom 3 Beta 2, and today Adobe also announced the launch of CS5...
Adobe Creative Suite 5 Pre-Launch (http://cs5launch.adobe.com/)
Mike.
(no cats were harmed in the making of this message).
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First Lightroom 3 Beta 2, and today Adobe also announced the launch of CS5...
Adobe Creative Suite 5 Pre-Launch (http://cs5launch.adobe.com/)
Mike.
(no cats were harmed in the making of this message).
Good news, thanks for sharing. But actual release might be later than that date.
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(no cats were harmed in the making of this message).
That's good news, Mike, but I'm still skeptical. Did you ask the cats or just their handlers?
Eric
P.S. The CS5 news is good, too. But I haven't really exhausted CS4 (or CS3) yet.
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…P.S. The CS5 news is good, too. But I haven't really exhausted CS4 (or CS3) yet.
I'm still using CS3 on my main computer and for most tasks it performs very well. I'll probably upgrade to CS5…
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First Lightroom 3 Beta 2, and today Adobe also announced the launch of CS5...
Launch (you can order and buy) or preview?
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It's just a preview of the new features.
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It's just a preview of the new features.
That’s what I kind of thought but its not too clear. The article up on MacWeek is equally unclear (http://www.macworld.com/article/150044/2010/03/cs5launch.html).
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I did receive confirmation from another source that this will be an actual product release.
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I did receive confirmation from another source that this will be an actual product release.
The operative words being "will be."
I'll go out on a limb and make the same wild, speculative prediction I made recently for Lightroom 3: I fearlessly predict that Adobe CS5 will indeed appear at some point in the future as an actual product release!
Eric
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I did receive confirmation from another source that this will be an actual product release.
Wrong...April 12th is the official launch (announce) and the final release is traditionally within 30 days or so...except for Lightroom, Adobe does not ship on the same day of announce...the Creative Suite will take weeks to get "into the channel" for release....
However, AFTER April 12th, if you buy Photoshop CS4, you will get a free upgrade to CS5 (for the cost of shipping) and since Adobe has limited the backwards version upgrade to 3 versions, people who are currently using Photoshop CS will seriously want to upgrade to SC4 once the announce happens but BEFORE CS5 actually ships. Once CS5 actually ships, only Photoshop CS2 will be eligible for upgrade pricing...
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A friend sent me this link to a vid about CS5, all I can say after seeing just one of the new features is WOW.
http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/2010/03/24...ak-photoshop-5/ (http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/2010/03/24/blow-sneak-peak-photoshop-5/)
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A friend sent me this link to a vid about CS5, all I can say after seeing just one of the new features is WOW.
http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/2010/03/24...ak-photoshop-5/ (http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/2010/03/24/blow-sneak-peak-photoshop-5/)
Ouch! And I though maybe I could skip CS5. But no: I need that "content-aware" stuff!
Eric
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A friend sent me this link to a vid about CS5, all I can say after seeing just one of the new features is WOW.
http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/2010/03/24...ak-photoshop-5/ (http://thenextweb.com/lifehacks/2010/03/24/blow-sneak-peak-photoshop-5/)
Wow indeed. Love the panorama 'fix'.
Mike.
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Wow indeed. Love the panorama 'fix'.
Mike.
Yeah, soon we won't need cameras at all.
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I saw that too. Could it be too good to be true? Jeff, what do you know about it? Jim
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Wow indeed. Love the panorama 'fix'.
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Me too, this could be a huge time saver. I was not thrilled by CS4 but CS5 promises to be very"interesting".
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I saw that too. Could it be too good to be true? Jeff, what do you know about it? Jim
It's not too good - an even more impressive/scary demo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qadw0BRKeMk) was shown at SIGGRAPH in 2007 which I linked to here back in the day. I think the gentlemen were hired or commissioned by Adobe. There was another video around which showed the content-aware editing demoed at a more advanced level than the CS5 clip, but wasn't able to locate it with quick googling. That's not to say that the CS5 implementation should be poor in any way - the video I linked and the other I saw are tech demos and not ready for prime time, while a feature in CS5 should be robust and easy to use.
Apparently GIMP already has that (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjCbwENf5sg), although haven't tried it - but it's free.
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Well, CS4 already has the content-aware resizing capabilty (after a fashion. its not quite like what's in the youtube demo), you lock out the parts of the image you don't want to change and rest resizes around that. I don't remember the details, I just used it to turn my kid into a dwarf in his Halloween picture year before last (lock the head and shoulders and ankles feet, squish the in between bits). I was real impressed because it handled the changes to the backround very well. What CS5 adds is the ability to make something out of nothing.
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Looks like it's the real thing!! What a huge timesaver it will be for me. Jim
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Today I can officially announce that I have been a beta tester for Photoshop CS5. I can not discuss the features of the program, so please do not ask. I can post images made with CS5.
All the program features will be discussed after the official launch at 11AM on April 12, 2010.
The following images were made from a scan of a 20 year old negative. The first image is the original scan and the second was processed using Adobe Photoshop CS5. That old image of Garth Brooks has new life thanks to Photoshop CS5.
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Today I can officially announce that I have been a beta tester for Photoshop CS5. I can not discuss the features of the program, so please do not ask. I can post images made with CS5.
Really? What makes you think your NDA is now up?
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Really? What makes you think your NDA is now up?
Limited disclosure has been granted to further promote the official launch on April 12th by Pam Clark,Photoshop Group Product Manager.
Strictly limited to acknowledging that the product does exist, that I am a pre release tester, and that I may post images labelled as being created with Adobe Photoshop CS5.
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Limited disclosure has been granted to further promote the official launch on April 12th by Pam Clark,Photoshop Group Product Manager.
Strictly limited to acknowledging that the product does exist, that I am a pre release tester, and that I may post images labelled as being created with Adobe Photoshop CS5.
Key word is limited! As Schewe mentioned to you above, its simply a launch, and for whatever reason, you feel (unlike some early beta and alpha testers here and elsewhere), you need to speak up about a product that is still under strict NDA restrictions. You can go that route, but don’t be surprised that this will be the last time you’ll be invited back to whatever late beta program you are apparently enrolled in.
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Key word is limited! As Schewe mentioned to you above, its simply a launch, and for whatever reason, you feel (unlike some early beta and alpha testers here and elsewhere), you need to speak up about a product that is still under strict NDA restrictions. You can go that route, but don’t be surprised that this will be the last time you’ll be invited back to whatever late beta program you are apparently enrolled in.
Please note that the beta testers are being encouraged to release this information as a part of the product promotion. This in no way violates the NDA. If you want more information about the pre release program, please contact Adobe PR.
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Please note that the beta testers are being encouraged to release this information as a part of the product promotion. This in no way violates the NDA. If you want more information about the pre release program, please contact Adobe PR.
What information? That’s the point.
Seems some who’ve never been a beta, enrolled in some very late program are apparently being told to promote a launch which is a far, far cry from saying very much, still enforced in their NDA (not that such people may or likely will say things they shouldn’t).
Headline news. Adobe is going to have a launch of CS5 next month. Super duper headline news, Jerry got his hands on a beta.
At least he had the foresight to say “I can not discuss the features of the program, so please do not ask.“ Otherwise, nothing newsworthy... yet.
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Is there any reason this conversation isn't happening in PMs?
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What information? That’s the point.
Seems some who’ve never been a beta, enrolled in some very late program are apparently being told to promote a launch which is a far, far cry from saying very much, still enforced in their NDA (not that such people may or likely will say things they shouldn’t).
Headline news. Adobe is going to have a launch of CS5 next month. Super duper headline news, Jerry got his hands on a beta.
At least he had the foresight to say “I can not discuss the features of the program, so please do not ask.“ Otherwise, nothing newsworthy... yet.
As Vice President Biden put it, "This IS a big F____ing deal!"
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Breaking news! BREAKING DIGITAL IMAGING NEWS!
The image on the top was processed in CS3 with the aid of a 3rd party plug in.
The image on the bottom was processed in CS3 with the aid of a beta of a 3rd party plug in.
They look different. I can’t tell you anything about the reasons why they look different. Don’t ask. But this is a BIG F____ing deal!
Most news worthy is that I have this beta and you probably don’t! . Here’s where we need Stuart Smalley to say: I’m good enough, I’m smart enough, and dog-gone it, people like me.
End of Breaking digital imaging news. Now back to some useful posts one would hope.
(http://digitaldog.net/files/BetavsNon.jpg)
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What's happening to LL?
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What information? That’s the point.
Seems some who’ve never been a beta, enrolled in some very late program are apparently being told to promote a launch which is a far, far cry from saying very much, still enforced in their NDA (not that such people may or likely will say things they shouldn’t).
Headline news. Adobe is going to have a launch of CS5 next month. Super duper headline news, Jerry got his hands on a beta.
At least he had the foresight to say “I can not discuss the features of the program, so please do not ask.“ Otherwise, nothing newsworthy... yet.
Andrew I thought this was a little unusual, but it would appear that the late beta testers have been encouraged to do exactly what Jerry has done on LL.
It's just marketing it would seem, a way of building up a little bit more buzz about the forthcoming version of PS. So they are doing as they were told to, so time to chill out and do some bug reports to prove you are a proper tester!
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First Lightroom 3 Beta 2, and today Adobe also announced the launch of CS5...
Do we already know whether CS5 will be 64 bits on OSX and finally able to deal with common operations like open and save in a fully multi-threaded way? When the next generation of Mac Pros will probably feature up to 24 cores (taking into account hyper threading) and 64GB or RAM, I will want my core high end imaging application to be able to tap fully into this potential.
The time it takes to save a large tiff file in compressed mode is so upsetting that I have given up and am now running into HD space issues accordingly... those are going to end up costing me several times the value of CS4/CS5.
I hope that John and his team did focus on making PS CS5 the fast and scalable imaging platform it has to be and will let 3rd party plugin vendors deal with the exotic stuff that they always do better anyway.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Do we already know whether CS5 will be 64 bits on OSX and finally able to deal with common operations like open and save in a fully multi-threaded way? When the next generation of Mac Pros will probably feature up to 24 cores (taking into account hyper threading) and 64GB or RAM, I will want my core high end imaging application to be able to tap fully into this potential.
The time it takes to save a large tiff file in compressed mode is so upsetting that I have given up and am now running into HD space issues accordingly... those are going to end up costing me several times the value of CS4/CS5.
I hope that John and his team did focus on making PS CS5 the fast and scalable imaging platform it has to be and will let 3rd party plugin vendors deal with the exotic stuff that they always do better anyway.
Cheers,
Bernard
No one who knows anything can comment yet, Bernard. After the 12th, you'll have all the answers :-)
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I skipped going from CS3 to 4 but being a Mac owner CS5 will finally bring some real progress one should think.
Indeed opening and saving files with the use of only one core should finally be addressed... a real timesaver that would be.
The software is cores behind with the hardware- My two year 'old' 8 core MacPro has not been able to show its full potential yet.
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In CS4 i could not find the shift-8 command ( to show the red mask overlay)
Where did that go? somebody?
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Indeed opening en saving files with the use of only one core should finally be addressed... a real timesaver that would be.
The software is cores behind with the hardware- My two year 'old' 8 core MacPro has not been able to to show its full potential yet.
I have had this very same discussion with Adobe people. I wouldn't count on it but I hope I am surprised.
Doyle
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Do we already know whether CS5 will be 64 bits on OSX and finally able to deal with common operations like open and save in a fully multi-threaded way?
Adobe has already stated that Photoshop CS5 will be 64 bit, MacIntel only and require at least Leopard 10.5.8 or above to run. As to the rest of your questions...can't say (mostly because I don't know). The thing I do know was that converting from Carbon to Cocoa APIs was a monstrous effort so I don't know how much time they could have thrown at other issues. Photoshop has been multi-core and multithreaded for a long time but people tend to have unrealistic expectations that 2 cores should be 2x and 8 should be 8x the speed...some stuff in Photoshop can't be scaled and split across cores...but I can tell you I just got a new Mac and packed 32 gigs in it and have 15K SAS drives for OS and Scratch so we'll see...
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Adobe has already stated that Photoshop CS5 will be 64 bit, MacIntel only and require at least Leopard 10.5.8 or above to run. As to the rest of your questions...can't say (mostly because I don't know). The thing I do know was that converting from Carbon to Cocoa APIs was a monstrous effort so I don't know how much time they could have thrown at other issues.
As a longtime Windows Photoshop user, I am pi$$ed off that Steve Jobs' fickleness in abruptly changing the 64 bit MAC APIs to Cocoa from Carbon as outlined in this post on Apple Insider (http://forums.appleinsider.com/showpost.php?p=1346416&postcount=44) required Adobe to devote massive engineer work to the changeover of APIs, thus depriving us all of features that could have been implemented if Apple had not abruptly changed course.
Bill
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Adobe has already stated that Photoshop CS5 will be 64 bit, MacIntel only and require at least Leopard 10.5.8 or above to run. As to the rest of your questions...can't say (mostly because I don't know). The thing I do know was that converting from Carbon to Cocoa APIs was a monstrous effort so I don't know how much time they could have thrown at other issues. Photoshop has been multi-core and multithreaded for a long time but people tend to have unrealistic expectations that 2 cores should be 2x and 8 should be 8x the speed...some stuff in Photoshop can't be scaled and split across cores...but I can tell you I just got a new Mac and packed 32 gigs in it and have 15K SAS drives for OS and Scratch so we'll see...
To add to Jeff's good points, there are also some functions that slow down if you try to split them over multiple cores, plus you decrease available memory in some circumstances when you use more cores.
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Adobe has already stated that Photoshop CS5 will be 64 bit, MacIntel only and require at least Leopard 10.5.8 or above to run. As to the rest of your questions...can't say (mostly because I don't know). The thing I do know was that converting from Carbon to Cocoa APIs was a monstrous effort so I don't know how much time they could have thrown at other issues. Photoshop has been multi-core and multithreaded for a long time but people tend to have unrealistic expectations that 2 cores should be 2x and 8 should be 8x the speed...some stuff in Photoshop can't be scaled and split across cores...but I can tell you I just got a new Mac and packed 32 gigs in it and have 15K SAS drives for OS and Scratch so we'll see...
Thanks for the feedback Jeff. 64bits is already very good news.
Cheers,
Bernard
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When performing Batch actions Photoshop could probably attack muliple files simultaneously. That is why DXO works so fast in batch mode and uses all 8 cores of my Mac.
However Photoshop handles only one file at a time in CS3 ( DXO around 4 )
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Do we already know whether CS5 will be 64 bits on OSX and finally able to deal with common operations like open and save in a fully multi-threaded way? When the next generation of Mac Pros will probably feature up to 24 cores (taking into account hyper threading) and 64GB or RAM, I will want my core high end imaging application to be able to tap fully into this potential.
The time it takes to save a large tiff file in compressed mode is so upsetting that I have given up and am now running into HD space issues accordingly... those are going to end up costing me several times the value of CS4/CS5.
I hope that John and his team did focus on making PS CS5 the fast and scalable imaging platform it has to be and will let 3rd party plugin vendors deal with the exotic stuff that they always do better anyway.
Cheers,
Bernard
Correction: It seems Photoshop CS5 is 64bit!
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ph...e/?view=compare (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshopextended/upgrade/?view=compare)
In that case I will definitely be upgrading.
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The new automated lens correction looks very useful. From the screen shots it looks like a plug-in type addition, so I really, REALLY hope this will be a ported feature from the forthcoming LR3. It's the sort of function that really ought to be at the root of the workflow, not an addition at the end.
For a look at all the photo relevant additions to PS CS5 Rob Galbraith has a good summary at http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_p...d=7-10050-10615 (http://www.robgalbraith.com/bins/content_page.asp?cid=7-10050-10615)
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Should we assume that the under the hood changes in CS5 are significant enough that all or most third party plugins will need to be rewritten to work properly?
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Should we assume that the under the hood changes in CS5 are significant enough that all or most third party plugins will need to be rewritten to work properly?
For Mac, yes...CS5 is 64 bit (on the proper MacIntel hardware) and Mac plug-in versions will need to be updated to work in 64 bit...
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For Mac, yes...CS5 is 64 bit (on the proper MacIntel hardware) and Mac plug-in versions will need to be updated to work in 64 bit...
But can we assume that running CS5 in 32-bit mode, the existing plugins will work?
Doyle
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However, AFTER April 12th, if you buy Photoshop CS4, you will get a free upgrade to CS5 (for the cost of shipping) and since Adobe has limited the backwards version upgrade to 3 versions, people who are currently using Photoshop CS will seriously want to upgrade to SC4 once the announce happens but BEFORE CS5 actually ships. Once CS5 actually ships, only Photoshop CS2 will be eligible for upgrade pricing...
Well, today's the official CS5 launch, and it looks to have some interesting new features. One thing I found puzzling, though, for all of the folks here who have association with Adobe... I was wandering around the adobe.com website today, checking out some of the videos, etc. but EVERY reference to CS4 has been obliterated from the Adobe website. I can understand Adobe wanting to emphasize CS5, but if I understand things correctly, it won't be shipping for several weeks yet. From the Adobe site, you could not purchase or download CS4 or any of the components today even if you wanted to. Any links to CS4 pages automatically redirect you to a page where you can pre-order or be notified about CS5.
I'm sure they had their reasons, but it seems strange to me.
Mike.
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When I checked out the adobe site's listing of features they bill towards photographer they indicate
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ph...?segment=design (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/whatsnew/index.html?segment=design)
"More powerful printing options enhanced
Get outstanding prints in less time with automation, scripting, and a print dialog box that's easier to navigate."
I can not find any elaboration on this on their site or FAQs, does anyone know what enhancements have been made? Also, will CS5 Windows PC version support native 16 bit printing?
Finally, on this URL
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ph...ent=photography (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/whatsnew/index.html?segment=photography)
They indicate, "Superior black-and-white conversion enhanced
Explore an endless variety of black-and-white looks. Use the integrated Lab B&W Action to interactively color images, create gorgeous HDR black-and-whites with greater ease and speed, and experiment with new presets."
What differences will one see compared to the Black & White Adjustment Layer found under CS4?
Thank you for any input on these topics.
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When I checked out the adobe site's listing of features they bill towards photographer they indicate
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ph...?segment=design (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/whatsnew/index.html?segment=design)
"More powerful printing options enhanced
Get outstanding prints in less time with automation, scripting, and a print dialog box that's easier to navigate."
I can not find any elaboration on this on their site or FAQs, does anyone know what enhancements have been made? Also, will CS5 Windows PC version support native 16 bit printing?
The print dialog box has been improved and you can now save image specific print settings in Photoshop CS5. It appears 16bit native printing is still limited to Mac OS.
Finally, on this URL
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ph...ent=photography (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/whatsnew/index.html?segment=photography)
They indicate, "Superior black-and-white conversion enhanced
Explore an endless variety of black-and-white looks. Use the integrated Lab B&W Action to interactively color images, create gorgeous HDR black-and-whites with greater ease and speed, and experiment with new presets."
What differences will one see compared to the Black & White Adjustment Layer found under CS4?
Thank you for any input on these topics.
The B&W conversion dialog panel appears identical to that of CS4. What is new is the HDR toning panel that creates an HDR "look" from single color or B&W images.
Please note that these are my personal opinions from Beta testing Photoshop CS5, they do not necessarily represent the opinions of Adobe. Finally for the naysayers, I now have permission from Adobe Product Management to discuss my experience with using Photoshop CS5.
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When I checked out the adobe site's listing of features they bill towards photographer they indicate
http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/ph...?segment=design (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/whatsnew/index.html?segment=design)
"More powerful printing options enhanced
Get outstanding prints in less time with automation, scripting, and a print dialog box that's easier to navigate."
I can not find any elaboration on this on their site or FAQs, does anyone know what enhancements have been made? Also, will CS5 Windows PC version support native 16 bit printing?
No 16bit printing on Windows because Windows doesn't support it. Honestly, you're not missing out on much in the vast majority of cases. In fact, you usually have to work hard to find an image that really benefits.
Some of the print enhancements include the ability to script printing which results from a few changes to the UI and the process (ie where you access certain print options).
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Me too, this could be a huge time saver. I was not thrilled by CS4 but CS5 promises to be very"interesting".
Hi Francois,
I agree, CS4 looked mostly like a revenue generating maintenance update (including some bugs, advertized as features). CS5 on the other hand (finally) adds a couple of useful (for a variety of users) features. It seems that I skipped the right version for a real upGrade.
Cheers,
Bart
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Here's another question for those who've played with it: Do images open to the secondary display, as they did on all versions prior to CS4, if your secondary display is used only for images and the menu bar and palettes are on the primary display? This behavior seemed to show up with CS4 and OpenGL, but continues to occur even when OpenGL is turned off. It's just a bit of an annoyance to have to drag every image to my other monitor each time.
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I've seen a couple reports on the updated lens distortion capabilities in CS5. Looks like it's still accessed in Photoshop proper as a filter. Does this mean no lens corrections available in ACR (Lightroom)?
Rob Galbraith's report mentioned a lens profiler utility. Will complex geometric distortions (moustache) be dealt with, or are corrections still limited to simple barrel/pincushion adjustments?
Thanks!
The ACR 6 lens correction is limited to adjusting chromatic aberration and vignetting. Photoshop CS5 offers the same manual lens corrections as CS4 (pincushion/barrel distortion, vertical and horizontal perspective, angle, vignetting and chromatic aberration) but also has a fully automated feature that corrects for specific camera and lens combinations using an updatable database.
Further adjustments to compensate for geometric distortions can be made with the new puppet warp tool.
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Here's another question for those who've played with it: Do images open to the secondary display, as they did on all versions prior to CS4, if your secondary display is used only for images and the menu bar and palettes are on the primary display? This behavior seemed to show up with CS4 and OpenGL, but continues to occur even when OpenGL is turned off. It's just a bit of an annoyance to have to drag every image to my other monitor each time.
No. Unfortuantely, that's still an issue. It's not an OpenGL problem and it's very annoying to me, too.
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So the automated database only accounts for simple pincushion/barrel distortion?
It's more detailed than that. It deals with distortion, CA, vignettes and so on.
Also, Sigma just announced that they've been working with Adobe to have their lenses in the database:
http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm (http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english/index.htm)
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Yes, sorry for being unclear. I was referring only to the distortion component of the corrections.
Can anyone confirm if complex geometric corrections are possible in the new lens correction system?
The new system is automated. What sort of things specifically are you hoping for it to do? The old manual corrections are still possible within PS or you can use the new Puppet Warp as another tool.
That sounds promising, hopefully other manufacturers will be there as well.
Indeed!
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For those who are still using Photoshop CS3 and thinking of upgrading:
I just ordered CS4 today. I shy away from software until as many bugs are killed as possible. Now I can use CS4 until 5 seems stable and I'll have the free upgrade ready!
Wrong...April 12th is the official launch (announce) and the final release is traditionally within 30 days or so...except for Lightroom, Adobe does not ship on the same day of announce...the Creative Suite will take weeks to get "into the channel" for release....
However, AFTER April 12th, if you buy Photoshop CS4, you will get a free upgrade to CS5 (for the cost of shipping) and since Adobe has limited the backwards version upgrade to 3 versions, people who are currently using Photoshop CS will seriously want to upgrade to SC4 once the announce happens but BEFORE CS5 actually ships. Once CS5 actually ships, only Photoshop CS2 will be eligible for upgrade pricing...
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But can we assume that running CS5 in 32-bit mode, the existing plugins will work?
Doyle
Windows CS4 with a 64 bit OS installs both 32 and 64 bit versions and the 32 bit plugins work fine in 32 bit mode. Perhaps the same will apply to the Mac.
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I currently use PS CS4 but have a hard time to justify an upgrade to CS5. I edit my photographs: cloning/healing of small artifacts, curves adjustment using layer masks, colorbalance, B&W conversion, cropping/uprezzing, sharpening, blur (just to soften the edges of the masks for smooth transition of the adjustment), lens distortion, stitching of pano's and softproofing. And that all on 16bits file in AdobeRGB or ProfotoRGB color space. That's it. The only new feature that comes close to wanting is content aware fill to do some cloning/healing with more comfort.
Much could be handled by Lightroom/Aperture already but I just like the way local adjustments are done via layer masks and the use of the canon print plugin to circument Adobe's and OSX print dialogs
I suspect that new versions of lightroom&aperture in 2 to 3 years will do everything I need/want at lower costs....so maybe CS4 was my first and last version of PS......
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The best reason for Mac users to upgrade to CS5 is 64bit compatibility. Photoshop CS5 can now access all of your system ram and better utilizes the GPU and Open GL making the application much faster.
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Can anyone confirm if complex geometric corrections are possible in the new lens correction system?
Yes, Alan.
The mathematical model used by the CS5 lens corrections plug-in enables the correction of complex distortion (such as the "moustache" or "wave" distortion that you mentioned previously), in addition to simpler distortion characteristics such as barrel and pincushion. Profiles are tailored to the distortion characteristics of the lens.
The model will be published publicly in a tech report / white paper (around the time CS5 ships).
Eric
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Yes, Alan.
The mathematical model used by the CS5 lens corrections plug-in enables the correction of complex distortion (such as the "moustache" or "wave" distortion that you mentioned previously), in addition to simpler distortion characteristics such as barrel and pincushion. Profiles are tailored to the distortion characteristics of the lens.
Eric
Hi Eric. How will the features of CS5 lens correction compare with those of DxO Optics Pro? It would be good not to need a third party program to convert RAW files with body- and lens-specific corrections.
Mike
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Windows CS4 with a 64 bit OS installs both 32 and 64 bit versions and the 32 bit plugins work fine in 32 bit mode. Perhaps the same will apply to the Mac.
On the Mac it's a single binary that can be run in either 32 or 64 bit mode. If your plugin is 32 bit you'll need to run in 32 bit mode. That said, with both Win and Mac now with 64 I think you'll find plug in makers will be more forthcoming for 64 bit versions.
I hardly ever fire up 32 bit CS4 or CS5.
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On the Mac it's a single binary that can be run in either 32 or 64 bit mode. If your plugin is 32 bit you'll need to run in 32 bit mode. That said, with both Win and Mac now with 64 I think you'll find plug in makers will be more forthcoming for 64 bit versions.
I hardly ever fire up 32 bit CS4 or CS5.
I found the option in Photoshop CS5 for Mac. CMD + I will open the info box giving you the option of starting in 32bit mode, the default is 64bit.
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I found the option in Photoshop CS5 for Mac. CMD + I will open the info box giving you the option of starting in 32bit mode, the default is 64bit.
I don't have a Mac with CS5 on it handy at the moment, but you may be able to run both (ie run two instances) at once? You can't on a PC. Jerry, perhaps you could test?
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I don't have a Mac with CS5 on it handy at the moment, but you may be able to run both (ie run two instances) at once? You can't on a PC. Jerry, perhaps you could test?
On the Mac platform you can not run two versions of Photoshop CS5 at one time, but you can run CS5 64bit and CS4 32bit at once.
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On the Mac platform you can not run two versions of Photoshop CS5 at one time, but you can run CS5 64bit and CS4 32bit at once.
I'm not sure, but as far as I know if you upgrade from CS4 to CS5, your CS4 key won't work any longer if you have CS5 activated ?
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I'm not sure, but as far as I know if you upgrade from CS4 to CS5, your CS4 key won't work any longer if you have CS5 activated ?
Wrong...activations are version specific...
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Wrong...activations are version specific...
Well than it could be a windows thing or my laptop thing, just tried it again from from CS3 to CS4 and CS3 wasn't activated after that. However it is possible to reactivate CS3 again after that.
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Windows CS4 with a 64 bit OS installs both 32 and 64 bit versions and the 32 bit plugins work fine in 32 bit mode. Perhaps the same will apply to the Mac.
Actually, I have some favorite plugins and would want to update them anyhow for the new features.
One of the biggest reasons for me to upgrade now, while I can get CS4 and CS5 for the one price, is that having the later versions can save a lot of money down the road; now that Adobe limits the upgrades to the last few versions. Might as well upgrade rather than have to buy the whole thing over again - assuming one will be replacing computers and operating systems; at some point the older software won't transfer.
Life was so much less complicated before computers!
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Actually, I have some favorite plugins and would want to update them anyhow for the new features.
One of the biggest reasons for me to upgrade now, while I can get CS4 and CS5 for the one price, is that having the later versions can save a lot of money down the road; now that Adobe limits the upgrades to the last few versions. Might as well upgrade rather than have to buy the whole thing over again - assuming one will be replacing computers and operating systems; at some point the older software won't transfer.
Life was so much less complicated before computers!
The great thing about CS5 is that finally PS is 64 bit even on macs and many plugin will finally be updated to 64bit, which did not happen to often so far.