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Title: CS5?
Post by: BlasR on November 30, 2009, 07:07:23 pm
http://cs5.org/?p=147 (http://cs5.org/?p=147)


When will come out?
Title: CS5?
Post by: DanielStone on December 01, 2009, 01:41:31 am
I'm sorry,

but that video scares the living dig shite out of me  

I don't use PS that much, just for basic stuff. I got CS4 cheap through school, and its WAAAAY more than I might ever need....

but then again, most people who are buying PS these days AREN'T pro's, but amateurs with fat wallets... so Adobe has to include this kind of stuff to 'appease the beast' so to speak

-Dan
Title: CS5?
Post by: sniper on December 01, 2009, 02:35:17 am
I have heard April mentioned but only time will tell really.
Title: CS5?
Post by: Mark D Segal on December 01, 2009, 07:34:21 pm
Quote from: DanielStone
I'm sorry,

but that video scares the living dig shite out of me  

I don't use PS that much, just for basic stuff. I got CS4 cheap through school, and its WAAAAY more than I might ever need....

but then again, most people who are buying PS these days AREN'T pro's, but amateurs with fat wallets... so Adobe has to include this kind of stuff to 'appease the beast' so to speak

-Dan

If you are going to consume bandwidth and peoples' time on a web forum routinely visited by many experienced and educated photographers, learn what you are talking about before rolling drivel off your fingers onto a keyboard.
Title: CS5?
Post by: fjmcsu on April 12, 2010, 11:04:15 am
CS5/Extended  available as download today(upgrade only):


http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/ (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/)
Title: CS5?
Post by: Schewe on April 12, 2010, 11:47:30 am
Quote from: fjmcsu
CS5/Extended  available as download today(upgrade only):


http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/ (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/)


Guess you didn't read the page...it was announced today and expected to ship by mid May, 2010. They never ship on the same day of the announcement...it's always 30-40 days after the announce. Pre-order is available as of today...
Title: CS5?
Post by: fjmcsu on April 12, 2010, 11:59:25 am
Quote from: Schewe
Guess you didn't read the page...it was announced today and expected to ship by mid May, 2010. They never ship on the same day of the announcement...it's always 30-40 days after the announce. Pre-order is available as of today...


I actually went to order the upgrade & it asked for the money & stated method of delivery as download as opposed to the non-upgrade path which has to be pre-ordered! Oh well I was planning later this evening to actually download it! I guess I will wait !
Title: CS5?
Post by: Raw shooter on April 12, 2010, 11:59:38 am
Quote from: DanielStone
I'm sorry,

but that video scares the living dig shite out of me  

I don't use PS that much, just for basic stuff. I got CS4 cheap through school, and its WAAAAY more than I might ever need....

but then again, most people who are buying PS these days AREN'T pro's, but amateurs with fat wallets... so Adobe has to include this kind of stuff to 'appease the beast' so to speak

-Dan

Couldn't disagree more.  Can't believe that you wrote this.  Most photogs I know couldn't live without PSx and ACRx.
Title: CS5?
Post by: ddk on April 12, 2010, 01:07:11 pm
Quote from: fjmcsu
CS5/Extended  available as download today(upgrade only):


http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/ (http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/)

Everything is a pre-order, nothing to download today.
Title: CS5?
Post by: StuartOnline on April 12, 2010, 05:41:06 pm
Adobe Photoshop CS5 Feature Tour
http://tv.adobe.com/show/photoshop-cs5-feature-tour/ (http://tv.adobe.com/show/photoshop-cs5-feature-tour/)

I took a look at a number of these videos today and I must admit I am amazed of what Photoshop CS5 will be offering
The enhanced selection tool is awesome.
Title: CS5?
Post by: feppe on April 12, 2010, 06:01:58 pm
Quote from: StuartOnline
Adobe Photoshop CS5 Feature Tour
http://tv.adobe.com/show/photoshop-cs5-feature-tour/ (http://tv.adobe.com/show/photoshop-cs5-feature-tour/)

I took a look at a number of these videos today and I must admit I am amazed of what Photoshop CS5 will be offering
The enhanced selection tool is awesome.

Thanks for the link, I only could find some generic marketing clips, these are more in-depth.

The content-aware fill (http://tv.adobe.com/watch/photoshop-cs5-feature-tour/terry-whites-top-5-photoshop-cs5-features/) clip looks like an April Fool's joke, it's so freaky. I saw that demoed a few years ago and can't believe it's ready for prime time already.
Title: CS5?
Post by: daws on April 12, 2010, 07:45:52 pm
Quote from: DanielStone
I'm sorry,

but that video scares the living dig shite out of me  

I don't use PS that much, just for basic stuff. I got CS4 cheap through school, and its WAAAAY more than I might ever need....

but then again, most people who are buying PS these days AREN'T pro's, but amateurs with fat wallets... so Adobe has to include this kind of stuff to 'appease the beast' so to speak

-Dan
Damn. Half an hour ago I ate a nice lunch at my desk -- roast beef on rye, French fries, Coke -- and now I have to squeegee it off my monitor.
Title: CS5?
Post by: jerryrock on April 12, 2010, 08:00:32 pm
Quote from: feppe
Thanks for the link, I only could find some generic marketing clips, these are more in-depth.

The content-aware fill (http://tv.adobe.com/watch/photoshop-cs5-feature-tour/terry-whites-top-5-photoshop-cs5-features/) clip looks like an April Fool's joke, it's so freaky. I saw that demoed a few years ago and can't believe it's ready for prime time already.

Content aware fill is as good as it looks. It saves hours of post editing time and is surprisingly accurate. Content aware is also an option for the healing brush tool in CS5 which I personally find to be very useful.
Title: CS5?
Post by: AJPacheco on April 12, 2010, 11:00:15 pm
pre=ordered boxed version today;upgrade from CS2) ...estimated availability is April 29.
Title: CS5?
Post by: daws on April 13, 2010, 03:28:21 am
Quote from: AJPacheco
pre=ordered boxed version today;upgrade from CS2) ...estimated availability is April 29.

As excited as I am about CS5, I'll hold back and monitor the forums for a month or two after its release before deciding if it's safe to join the party.

I was one of the many who enthusiastically leaped into CS4, only to suffer months of tech tortures and productivity hits (and ultimately having to revert to CS3) before the 11.0.1 fix was released.  


Title: CS5?
Post by: Philmar on April 13, 2010, 05:10:27 pm
Quote from: MarkDS
If you are going to consume bandwidth and peoples' time on a web forum routinely visited by many experienced and educated photographers, learn what you are talking about before rolling drivel off your fingers onto a keyboard.
I don't see what's so offensive about what he wrote. He didn't say professional photographers don't use or need Photoshop. Nor did he suggest that only amateurs use it. He suggested that the majority of the people that DO use Photoshop are non-pros with fat wallets. I am one such person. I am a photo-enthusiast that uses CS4. I could make do with Elements and either DPP, LR or GIMP but can afford CS5. I am not a pro. I am one such 'amateur with a big fat wallet". Photoshop definitely IS much more than what I need. I imagine there are more people like me using photoshop than there are people who make their living selling photographs.

And if I am wrong, then I am wrong. But to suggest that view is drivel and a waste of people's time and bandwidth is rather rude. Or maybe I'm missing something?
Title: CS5?
Post by: AJPacheco on April 14, 2010, 10:31:07 pm
Quote from: daws
As excited as I am about CS5, I'll hold back and monitor the forums for a month or two after its release before deciding if it's safe to join the party.
I was one of the many who enthusiastically leaped into CS4, only to suffer months of tech tortures and productivity hits (and ultimately having to revert to CS3) before the 11.0.1 fix was released.  

I also gave CS4 a try for a bit, crashed & burned so many times I felt the Red Baron was on my tail.
But I was in the industry for four decades and spent a few of them doing some cutting edge programming so I know how it feels to get a great idea, implement it, and then see it fall flat; (like the use of the graphics processor to assist in computations....a dangerous stairway)
I believe the youngsters now doing the work at Adobe will fix any goofs quickly and upgrades will be solid. After all, I think I've downloaded dozens of upgrades and fixes for Windows7 and it only gets stronger.



Title: CS5?
Post by: jeremyrh on April 26, 2010, 07:36:09 am
Quote from: Philmar
I don't see what's so offensive about what he wrote. He didn't say professional photographers don't use or need Photoshop. Nor did he suggest that only amateurs use it. He suggested that the majority of the people that DO use Photoshop are non-pros with fat wallets. I am one such person. I am a photo-enthusiast that uses CS4. I could make do with Elements and either DPP, LR or GIMP but can afford CS5. I am not a pro. I am one such 'amateur with a big fat wallet". Photoshop definitely IS much more than what I need. I imagine there are more people like me using photoshop than there are people who make their living selling photographs.

And if I am wrong, then I am wrong. But to suggest that view is drivel and a waste of people's time and bandwidth is rather rude. Or maybe I'm missing something?
I think you're spot on. My wallet is not so fat, but fat enough to afford PS even though, in moments of rational thought, I confess to not really needing it.
Title: CS5?
Post by: RichGibson on April 26, 2010, 09:23:39 am
I received an eMail from Amazon yesterday saying the arrival date had been moved up from July 2 to May 27.
Title: CS5?
Post by: Pete Ferling on April 26, 2010, 09:35:19 am
I work in PS/LR daily for my job and I really wasn't that excited about CS4, I still use CS3 on my laptop and I hate to say it, I like CS3 better - its more stable for me.

Generally in business you have to be careful taking leaps of faith into software upgrades, especially while in the middle of unfinished projects.  However, being in this industry, when our outside vendors and freelancers upgrade, we have little choice but to comply and face the upgrade path with fingers crossed.  Then still wind up using the very same tools and filters that gets work done.  So here we go again, and my CS4 installation disk hasn't even cooled off yet.  
Title: CS5?
Post by: Mark D Segal on April 26, 2010, 11:48:59 pm
Quote from: Philmar
I don't see what's so offensive about what he wrote. He didn't say professional photographers don't use or need Photoshop. Nor did he suggest that only amateurs use it. He suggested that the majority of the people that DO use Photoshop are non-pros with fat wallets. I am one such person. I am a photo-enthusiast that uses CS4. I could make do with Elements and either DPP, LR or GIMP but can afford CS5. I am not a pro. I am one such 'amateur with a big fat wallet". Photoshop definitely IS much more than what I need. I imagine there are more people like me using photoshop than there are people who make their living selling photographs.

And if I am wrong, then I am wrong. But to suggest that view is drivel and a waste of people's time and bandwidth is rather rude. Or maybe I'm missing something?

I think the tone and substance of what he wrote was insulting and not constructive. Anyone can have a different sense of it - that was mine. I enjoy this forum because it has standards and I would like to see them maintained. There are other places for these kind of potshots at other people, their status or their wallets, etc. My last comment on this one. Over and out.
Title: CS5?
Post by: Rajan Parrikar on April 29, 2010, 11:22:13 pm
I thought CS5 was to be made available for download today (Apr 29).  Still no word.
Title: CS5?
Post by: Schewe on April 30, 2010, 01:25:44 am
Quote from: Parrikar
I thought CS5 was to be made available for download today (Apr 29).  Still no word.


It was available before midnite San Jose time so it did release on the 29th...I'm downloading it now....
Title: CS5?
Post by: Rajan Parrikar on April 30, 2010, 03:07:45 am
Quote from: Schewe
It was available before midnite San Jose time so it did release on the 29th...I'm downloading it now....

I downloaded and installed it.  Looks good.  Now I await my plug-in vendors Nik Software and Imagenomic to update their wares to work with CS5.
Title: CS5?
Post by: Pete_G on April 30, 2010, 05:02:49 pm
Got the trial CS5 Extended download, installed on my Thinkpad T61p, Windows 7 Pro 64. Both 32 and 64 bit versions installed by default, only tried the 64 bit vers. Initial reactions are pretty positive - it seems nice and responsive, love the "scrubby zoom" feature. I tried the CS4 trial and passed on it, the Open GL stuff seemed sluggish but that's gone away now. I'll upgrade to this from my CS3, there's enough features to make it worthwhile. Don't use lots of plugins except for Photokit Sharpener, so I don't have those anxieties.

Adobe seem to be in, "we're gonna take over the world" mode at the moment with much of their CS Suite stuff.
Title: CS5?
Post by: mcbroomf on May 01, 2010, 05:44:06 am
Hi Eric, any word on when ACR 6.1 will ship?

Thx
Title: CS5?
Post by: Josh-H on May 01, 2010, 05:51:20 am
Quote
Adobe seem to be in, "we're gonna take over the world" mode at the moment with much of their CS Suite stuff.

Heh.. maybe they didnt get the memo that Apple has that mantra  
Title: CS5?
Post by: dgberg on May 02, 2010, 08:23:46 am
Quote from: Josh-H
Heh.. maybe they didnt get the memo that Apple has that mantra  
Both acting like a bunch of spoiled little kids. You would think it would be more beneficial to work things out.
Its going to be interesting to watch all the Adobe trainers that exclusively use Mac. Will we see a PC taped over the Apple logo?
Title: CS5?
Post by: Raw shooter on May 02, 2010, 01:04:26 pm
Quote from: Dan Berg
Both acting like a bunch of spoiled little kids. You would think it would be more beneficial to work things out.
Its going to be interesting to watch all the Adobe trainers that exclusively use Mac. Will we see a PC taped over the Apple logo?
Just more cult on cult crime.  
Title: CS5?
Post by: madmanchan on May 02, 2010, 03:28:00 pm
Quote from: mcbroomf
Hi Eric, any word on when ACR 6.1 will ship?

Hi Mike, should be just a few weeks away!  (I know folks would like a more specific answer, but unfortunately that's the best I can do for now.)
Title: CS5?
Post by: mcbroomf on May 02, 2010, 06:58:04 pm
That's fine Eric, thanks.  
Title: CS5?
Post by: AJPacheco on May 10, 2010, 02:44:50 pm
Received CS5 this past week...I had ordered the boxed version,thinking there would be a user guide/summary like they used to include. But there's only the installation CD packed in a very large box. So that's what is meant by 'box version'; you get a box that can be used to store stuff in.

The last user guide I have is from CS2 (I skipped 3&4) and it was very well written. Concise and to the point and easy to read.

 I had a small collection of the PS Bibles, PS for digital photographers, PS Tips & Secrets , etc., but donated them all to a church yard-sale last year after a stroke made reading difficult to impossible.  They usually don't change much in those books anyways....just add a new chapter or so and a new cover. Maybe CS5 will force the authors to actually work a bit this time.
I only kept B. Fraser's  Color Management book and my old collection of A. Adam's books.  Some things are timeless.

CS5 seems to be happy with my little Radeon 4670 video board (the CS4 trial crashed & burned constantly and I thought that Adobe had pulled a Toyota).

After being out of touch with the photographic industry since 2005, I'm surprised that the same old Apple vs Intel fights are still going strong, as indicated by another thread here.
I'm sure there are film vs digital arguments going on somewhere on the WWW as well.

Today I'm heading out to get some Tri-X if I can find some and load up the old film camera to see if I can still take a photo or two like I used to forty years ago.
Digital can wait for now.