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Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Snook on August 27, 2009, 08:03:54 pm
I just read some where on the net that some early GM testers of OSX SNOW reporting that C-1 is not working correctly with Snow..
Does anybody no if there will be a update for Snow then? After all 4.8.2 just came out not too long ago.
Supposedly the licensing does not get accepted?
Could be wrong as these are just rumors as Snow is due to be out tomorrow..
I guess we'll see tomorrow..:+]
Thought this thread would be useful in any case.
Snook
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Graham Mitchell on August 27, 2009, 08:06:59 pm
If anyone could verify that Brumbaer tools and Sinar Exposure 6.2.0 work propery with Snow Leopard, that would be very helpful!
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: bdp on August 27, 2009, 09:20:13 pm
Quote from: foto-z
If anyone could verify that Brumbaer tools and Sinar Exposure 6.2.0 work propery with Snow Leopard, that would be very helpful!

I have my Snow Leopard disk here and will be installing it on a non-critical machine (older Intel iMac) tomorrow. I will test Sinar eXposure 6.2 and let you know. I don't use Brumbaer tools so someone else will have to test that.

Ben
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: bdp on August 27, 2009, 10:30:58 pm
Couldn't wait    Installed Snow Leopard on my Macbook Pro 15" 2.8Ghz (late 2008 model).

Sinar eXposure seems to work fine - launches, connects to camera, shoots tethered, exports, imports. Doesn't seem any quicker or slower. Only issue I saw was the thumbnail at the bottom of the export tab that indicates which picture is currently being exported is scrambled. The exported TIF files open fine in CS3, but finder reports them as 99.9MB, when they are in fact 95.2MB. This is what they used to report as in Leopard, and what it says as the file size at the bottom of the image window in Photoshop.

So some issues but hopefully safe to install Snow Leopard. Question is why, if there is no speed increase. Until I have used it for a few weeks on shoots I can't be 100% sure it works without any extra problems. Sinar support have said previously they tested eXposure on Snow Leopard and they 'expect it to work without problems'.

Ben

** Correction ** - Sinar eXposure has problems with colour calibrations and colour display - see my post #52.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Nick_T on August 27, 2009, 10:47:09 pm
CS3 and Phocus running fine on a Snow Leopard MacPro here.

Nick-T
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Alex MacPherson on August 27, 2009, 10:48:53 pm
I was told by a Phase One rep that C1 is releasing a totally new version of C1 for Snow Leopard. He said the difference
will be like from 3.x to 4.x

I guess we will find out soon.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: pschefz on August 28, 2009, 12:08:04 am
Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography
I was told by a Phase One rep that C1 is releasing a totally new version of C1 for Snow Leopard. He said the difference
will be like from 3.x to 4.x

I guess we will find out soon.


if i remember correctly the step from 3 to 4 was horrible...not smooth at all....
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Graham Mitchell on August 28, 2009, 03:25:29 am
Quote from: bdp
Sinar eXposure seems to work fine

Thanks!
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Snook on August 28, 2009, 07:47:33 am
Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography
I was told by a Phase One rep that C1 is releasing a totally new version of C1 for Snow Leopard. He said the difference
will be like from 3.x to 4.x

I guess we will find out soon.

Soon??? I doubt it...:+}

Snook
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: archivue on August 28, 2009, 08:01:27 am
and what about the LEAF software ?
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: bdp on August 28, 2009, 08:26:23 am
Make sure you install the Rosetta option. Some Epson printers require drivers to be downloaded from the Epson website to keep working, and some of them need Rosetta to work. It's never smooth sailing when you're an early adopter. Drivers will eventually be updated by Apple I assume but for now you will need to search the Epson website for drivers to keep printing. Also my Airport on an iMac could not be turned on after updating to 10.6, and required a PRAM reset to get it going.

Ben
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: teddillard on August 28, 2009, 09:54:22 am
Quote from: Snook
I just read some where on the net that some early GM testers of OSX SNOW reporting that C-1 is not working correctly with Snow..
Does anybody no if there will be a update for Snow then? After all 4.8.2 just came out not too long ago.
Supposedly the licensing does not get accepted?
Could be wrong as these are just rumors as Snow is due to be out tomorrow..
I guess we'll see tomorrow..:+]
Thought this thread would be useful in any case.
Snook

I just posted all the info I could get here, including the link to the pass/fail app list-
http://www.h2hreviews.com/blog/Snow-Leopar...tographers.html (http://www.h2hreviews.com/blog/Snow-Leopard-fot-Photographers.html)

Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: teddillard on August 28, 2009, 09:55:15 am
Quote from: Snook
Soon??? I doubt it...:+}

Snook

C1 4.8 passed:
http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ (http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/)
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: PdF on August 28, 2009, 09:56:59 am
Does anybody knows something about Sinar CaptureShop (5.6.3) ?

It seems that Photoshop CS3 (not guaranteed by Adobe on this new platform) works fine...

PdF

Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: chex on August 28, 2009, 10:24:05 am
Quote from: bdp
. The exported TIF files open fine in CS3, but finder reports them as 99.9MB, when they are in fact 95.2MB. This is what they used to report as in Leopard, and what it says as the file size at the bottom of the image window in Photoshop.

That's 'cuz 10.6 uses 1000MB = 1GB instead of 1024MB
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Cfranson on August 28, 2009, 10:40:12 am
Quote from: PdF
Does anybody knows something about Sinar CaptureShop (5.6.3) ?

It seems that Photoshop CS3 (not guaranteed by Adobe on this new platform) works fine...

PdF
I'll be doing some tests later in the day today with Captureshop and 10.6.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: rsmphoto on August 28, 2009, 10:52:29 am
Quote from: teddillard
I just posted all the info I could get here, including the link to the pass/fail app list-
http://www.h2hreviews.com/blog/Snow-Leopar...tographers.html (http://www.h2hreviews.com/blog/Snow-Leopard-fot-Photographers.html)

Thanks Ted. You da man! ;-)
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Doug Peterson on August 28, 2009, 12:59:29 pm
Quote from: teddillard
C1 4.8 passed:
http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/ (http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/)

Capture Integration’s general guidance (whether you shoot Phase, Canon, Nikon, or anything else, is to avoid using Operating Systems immediately upon their release on any production computer. As with any update large-or-small to a production computer we recommend you proceed only when 1) it is clear that there are no major bugs 2) you have a backup of a known-good state and 3) you have several hours to thoroughly test the new system. While Snow Leopard seems on-the-surface to be a minor OS update there are ALWAYS issues with new OS. We will be doing our own hands-on testing of Snow Leopard in the coming weeks and will report on this blog our findings. However, we know that some of you will want to try out this operating system.

So here is an initial report on Capture One 4.8.2 and Snow Leopard. It is not compatible; it has bugs; however, it is usable with the use of a workaround.

For full details please see our blog entry: http://www.captureintegration.com/2009/08/...e-one-and-10-6/ (http://www.captureintegration.com/2009/08/28/capture-one-and-10-6/)

We have an RSS Feed (http://www.captureintegration.com/2008/08/11/rss-feeds/) which covers this sort of news update. We also have a free giveaway-lotto of a Cambo Wide DS and Capture One license this month which you can enter only if you subscribe to the RSS (an RSS update is pushed out to you by the end of the month with details of how to enter).

Doug Peterson  ()
__________________
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Phase One, Leaf, Canon, Apple, Profoto, Eizo & More
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Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: teddillard on August 28, 2009, 01:17:17 pm
Quote from: dougpetersonci
Capture Integration’s general guidance (whether you shoot Phase, Canon, Nikon, or anything else, is to avoid using Operating Systems immediately upon their release on any production computer. As with any update large-or-small to a production computer we recommend you proceed only when 1) it is clear that there are no major bugs 2) you have a backup of a known-good state and 3) you have several hours to thoroughly test the new system. While Snow Leopard seems on-the-surface to be a minor OS update there are ALWAYS issues with new OS. We will be doing our own hands-on testing of Snow Leopard in the coming weeks and will report on this blog our findings. However, we know that some of you will want to try out this operating system.

So here is an initial report on Capture One 4.8.2 and Snow Leopard. It is not compatible; it has bugs; however, it is usable with the use of a workaround.

For full details please see our blog entry: http://www.captureintegration.com/2009/08/...e-one-and-10-6/ (http://www.captureintegration.com/2009/08/28/capture-one-and-10-6/)

We have an RSS Feed (http://www.captureintegration.com/2008/08/11/rss-feeds/) which covers this sort of news update. We also have a free giveaway-lotto of a Cambo Wide DS and Capture One license this month which you can enter only if you subscribe to the RSS (an RSS update is pushed out to you by the end of the month with details of how to enter).

Doug Peterson  ()
__________________
Head of Technical Services, Capture Integration
Phase One, Leaf, Canon, Apple, Profoto, Eizo & More
National: 877.217.9870  |  Cell: 740.707.2183
Newsletter: Read Latest or Sign Up (http://www.captureintegration.com/our-company/newsletters/)

GREAT great advice and post, Doug!  Posting the link to h2hreviews.com blog...
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Ken Bennett on August 28, 2009, 01:27:17 pm
Quote from: bdp
It's never smooth sailing when you're an early adopter.


Absolutely true.

I am always amazed at the number of photographers who update their main workstation to the latest Mac OS on the first day it is released. I have a friend who couldn't print for several months after the last update.

Not that anybody here would do that.... <grin>
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: PdF on August 28, 2009, 01:44:24 pm
Quote from: Cfranson
I'll be doing some tests later in the day today with Captureshop and 10.6.

Great !

PdF
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: E_Edwards on August 28, 2009, 03:14:48 pm
Who has the stomach for updates anymore?

I'm fed up with updates that don't do much at all. My policy is that if it works well already, leave it alone until there is a really compelling reason to update.

I don't see any compelling reasons to update to Snow Leopard as everything I need works perfectly OK and the whole hassle is not worth it just to gain a millisecond of speed opening Word or something similar.

Edward
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: teddillard on August 28, 2009, 03:28:56 pm
Quote from: E_Edwards
Who has the stomach for updates anymore?

I'm fed up with updates that don't do much at all. My policy is that if it works well already, leave it alone until there is a really compelling reason to update.

I don't see any compelling reasons to update to Snow Leopard as everything I need works perfectly OK and the whole hassle is not worth it just to gain a millisecond of speed opening Word or something similar.

Edward
I feel your pain, more than you can ever know...  but.  After the chips fall, and all the software is running smoothly (i.e. by January...)  you may want to reconsider, solely on the speed and size advantages of the thing.  It's half the size of Leopard (read: you get 5-7GB more room on your disk) and it's quite a bit faster.  There are some really nice little features, too, in Finder and a few other apps, especially for photographers.

My old auntie said it one way- never say never.  My buddy Nick says it another- if you stay in this digital game long enough, it'll make a fool of anybody!



Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Wayne Fox on August 28, 2009, 04:36:04 pm
Quote from: E_Edwards
Who has the stomach for updates anymore?

I'm fed up with updates that don't do much at all. My policy is that if it works well already, leave it alone until there is a really compelling reason to update.

I don't see any compelling reasons to update to Snow Leopard as everything I need works perfectly OK and the whole hassle is not worth it just to gain a millisecond of speed opening Word or something similar.

Edward

I agree OS updates should be approached cautiously.  As far as not doing anything at all, while this one seems to be mostly "under the hood" type of stuff,  Photoshop is running noticeably faster with many functions, including but not limited to launch time.  CaptureOne also appears to be faster.  We're talking seconds for many functions, not milliseconds, but I'm working with 16 bit layered p45 and p65 files.  Could be less apparent with smaller image files. One of the touted changes was better utilization of multi-core processors.  I probably won't upgrade my main workstation (dual quad core) for a while, but I may do some speed tests before and after just to satisfy my curiosity.

Overall computer feels "snappier" with most apps, including safari and the finder.  One example I noticed is previews in the finder seem to load much faster, especially if looking at a .cr2 file.  

So far have worked with CS4 (no problems), CaptureOne 4.8.1 (no problems), LR 2.4 in 64bit (no problems), several non-photography related apps (no problems).

I had to reinstall drivers for the Epson 7900 (still had 6.11 and the install seem to have lost the profiles).  The 6.55 driver resolved that and printed fine from CS4.  Haven't tried printing from LR yet.  Somehow the monitor reverted to the factory profile but that may have been something I did and wasn't caused by the install .. don't know

EyeOne Match required Rosetta to be installed, which was done automatically, then launched fine.  I didn't actually make a profile but it appeared to be working normally. (My copy is old, there may be an upgrade for it already.)   I'm sure a few other apps I have will require Rosetta.

Been working with it for several hours now, no problems so far.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Steve Hendrix on August 28, 2009, 04:55:58 pm
Quote from: Wayne Fox
I agree OS updates should be approached cautiously.  As far as not doing anything at all, while this one seems to be mostly "under the hood" type of stuff,  Photoshop is running noticeably faster with many functions, including but not limited to launch time.  CaptureOne also appears to be faster.  We're talking seconds for many functions, not milliseconds, but I'm working with 16 bit layered p45 and p65 files.  Could be less apparent with smaller image files. One of the touted changes was better utilization of multi-core processors.  I probably won't upgrade my main workstation (dual quad core) for a while, but I may do some speed tests before and after just to satisfy my curiosity.

Overall computer feels "snappier" with most apps, including safari and the finder.  One example I noticed is previews in the finder seem to load much faster, especially if looking at a .cr2 file.  

So far have worked with CS4 (no problems), CaptureOne 4.8.1 (no problems), LR 2.4 in 64bit (no problems), several non-photography related apps (no problems).

I had to reinstall drivers for the Epson 7900 (still had 6.11 and the install seem to have lost the profiles).  The 6.55 driver resolved that and printed fine from CS4.  Haven't tried printing from LR yet.  Somehow the monitor reverted to the factory profile but that may have been something I did and wasn't caused by the install .. don't know

EyeOne Match required Rosetta to be installed, which was done automatically, then launched fine.  I didn't actually make a profile but it appeared to be working normally. (My copy is old, there may be an upgrade for it already.)   I'm sure a few other apps I have will require Rosetta.

Been working with it for several hours now, no problems so far.


So with caution on everyone's mind, my thinking was we need some courageous guinea pigs to step up. And Wayne, you boldly went where foolish men had gone before!

Props.

And thanks for the report, glad it was a good one!


Steve Hendrix
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: jimgolden on August 28, 2009, 06:06:10 pm
y'all are brave...
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Kirk Gittings on August 28, 2009, 07:12:48 pm
There is a fine line between brave and stupid.

on that note....FWIW, I just installed it on my laptop. I figured that was the safer test. It took about an hour to install (I think I left to do other work). It seems to have installed flawlessly, all programs I have tried seem to be working fine (PS, LR, Quickbooks, Word, Itunes etc.). I had to reinstall my printer driver, but that went smooth and took just a minute. The printer seems to respond quicker than it did with Tiger, but overall frankly I can't tell any difference. I would like to say that it is a hair quicker, but I'll bet that is just $30 wishful thinking.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: JTFOTO on August 28, 2009, 08:50:04 pm
10.5.7, cs4, 4.8.1 all work great without a hitch.  Why upgrade the day it comes out.  I think it is one of the dumbest things to do if you use it for work on a daily basis.  Do you want to be a photographer or computer software installer and uninstaller?  

Let guys like Steve and Doug which it's their business to figure it all out and get back to us.  They're the true hero's for us here!
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Alex MacPherson on August 28, 2009, 08:56:17 pm
Maybe I am foolish to believe this but... c'mon Phase One has known that Snow Leopard has been coming out for quite some time.
The developer's version has been available for a long time too.

The creative world runs mostly on Mac Os. Don't you think Phase should have had their act together to get a proper update ready?
Adobe was up to speed... why not Phase?
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: eronald on August 28, 2009, 10:28:08 pm
AFAIK Color managed printing is going to be very hard with legacy apps under Snow Leopard, and in particular with CS3. Enjoy.

Edmund
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Wayne Fox on August 28, 2009, 11:19:41 pm
Quote from: Steve Hendrix
So with caution on everyone's mind, my thinking was we need some courageous guinea pigs to step up. And Wayne, you boldly went where foolish men had gone before!

Props.

And thanks for the report, glad it was a good one!


Steve Hendrix

Quote from: jimgolden
y'all are brave...

Nothing brave or foolish here.  We have about 100 macs.  One of my "jobs" (well at least one of the things I do)  is to check out new equipment and software - just something I like doing.

Easy enough.  I operate with 2 laptops, a 13" when I'm traveling, which I then clone over to a 17" when not traveling.  Since I just got back a few days ago, my laptop is completely backed up and cloned on the 13".    If the whole thing crashes and dies I can just clone back over, or for that matter just fire the 13" back up.

I'm not sure when I'll put Snow Leopard on my main workstation, but I'll run with it for a while on the laptop.  (I say that but after one full day and zero problems ... maybe not much reason to wait.)
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: mcfoto on August 29, 2009, 05:52:39 am
WAIT a few months! 10.5 really did not get up to speed till 10.5.7. There are days I really wonder what is in MACs mind??? The latest Mac Pro towers only offer FW 800 & USB 2.0? What about eSATA? I really think the future of FW is limited! Back to Snow Leopard can we wait a few months before they get the bugs out! CP Pro 4.8 is working really well on 10.5.7 WHY would I RISK the latest SL!
Denis
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: phila on August 29, 2009, 06:18:49 am
Quote from: mcfoto
WAIT a few months! 10.5 really did not get up to speed till 10.5.7. There are days I really wonder what is in MACs mind??? The latest Mac Pro towers only offer FW 800 & USB 2.0? What about eSATA? I really think the future of FW is limited! Back to Snow Leopard can we wait a few months before they get the bugs out! CP Pro 4.8 is working really well on 10.5.7 WHY would I RISK the latest SL!
Denis

Well with a separate bootable 10.5.8 HD there is no risk involved really. Any hassles with Snow Leopard and it's a simple reboot back to Leopard! :-)

It is a LOT faster!!  
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Guy Mancuso on August 29, 2009, 07:48:58 am
There is no risk if you have a cloned leopard on a external drive and the off chance you need to get back is very easy. The trick is have backups ready and waiting and really have 2 of them on different externals, Or a simple case of making a drive into two partitions one for Snow leaopard and one for Leopard. You can work in your old OS while you update and smooth out any issues with Snow Leopard. Also many reports around that folks that did load Snow Leopard with C1 already on their machine they have had no issues with the license. Highly recommend carbon cloner for all the backup stuff , never had a issue with it and use it regularly for incremental backups and full bootable backups. They only issue I have really seen so far is printers but they are already getting drivers out in most cases
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Snook on August 29, 2009, 09:34:45 am
Quote from: mcfoto
WAIT a few months! 10.5 really did not get up to speed till 10.5.7. There are days I really wonder what is in MACs mind??? The latest Mac Pro towers only offer FW 800 & USB 2.0? What about eSATA? I really think the future of FW is limited! Back to Snow Leopard can we wait a few months before they get the bugs out! CP Pro 4.8 is working really well on 10.5.7 WHY would I RISK the latest SL!
Denis

I just installed eSATA (2 of them) in my MacPro Tower...:+}
Cost about 30.00
Snook
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Hywel on August 29, 2009, 02:12:06 pm
I've just installed Snow Leopard on my laptop (saving the big install on the Mac Pro for a while!)

Phocus seems to be having an odd problem- the file system section of the browser tab doesn't show the Mac HD. It seems to see mounted drives (eg the drive image for Phocus install) OK, but not the system drive.

Is anyone else getting that? Makes it a bit tricky to navigate around your files!

Other than that it seems to be working OK so far.

  Hywel Phillips

Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: ctz on August 29, 2009, 02:18:27 pm
Quote from: Snook
I just installed eSATA (2 of them) in my MacPro Tower...:+}
Cost about 30.00
Snook

cool!
some details, please...
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Snook on August 29, 2009, 02:44:52 pm
Quote from: ctz
cool!
some details, please...

Not sure what details but here is what I bought..
I have a little older MacPro 2.66 ghrz model and install this which allows 2 esata ports. I think the newer one only allow one but not sure.

http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/MPQXES2/ (http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Newer%20Technology/MPQXES2/)

Good Luck
Snook..
PS.  eSata flies!! by the way. they also make an esata for the MacBook Pro older models with the PCI slot which I am using the SSD 49 gig hard drive set up mention in another thread here..:+}
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Graham Mitchell on August 29, 2009, 02:52:11 pm
Just updated to Snow Leopard.
Sinar eXposure 6.2 and Photoshop CS4 seem to work normally after quick test.
I had to update Little Snitch to the latest beta version (which is Snow compatible).
And my mail program (Thunderbird) is suddenly displaying Russian text properly!
Was nice to get 10GB of disk space back too.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Steve Hendrix on August 29, 2009, 03:02:51 pm
Quote from: Wayne Fox
Nothing brave or foolish here.  We have about 100 macs.  One of my "jobs" (well at least one of the things I do)  is to check out new equipment and software - just something I like doing.

Easy enough.  I operate with 2 laptops, a 13" when I'm traveling, which I then clone over to a 17" when not traveling.  Since I just got back a few days ago, my laptop is completely backed up and cloned on the 13".    If the whole thing crashes and dies I can just clone back over, or for that matter just fire the 13" back up.

I'm not sure when I'll put Snow Leopard on my main workstation, but I'll run with it for a while on the laptop.  (I say that but after one full day and zero problems ... maybe not much reason to wait.)


And Wayne  - I did not mean to imply it was foolish to do so - rather it's perceived that way. The props were for checking it out regardless of the prevailing (wisdom). As long as you're not loading on a critical computer why not take it around the block and see how it does?


Steve Hendrix
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Snook on August 29, 2009, 03:11:02 pm
Has anybody had success with C-1 on Snow yet.. I never even install 4.8.2 on any machine as did not find it necesary.
I did have the problem with C-1 being really slow on the laptop with and LCD TV monitor connecting but I think that was because I have a 256mb video card so it takes to long to load to the LCD screen, plus I am finding shooting UN tethered better these days as tethered just slows everything down and people seem to comment too much when shooting tethered which alos slows things down.
I tried to shoot a couple tethered show them the lighting then un plug and fire away. much fast and with my RZ in studio I can just fire away with out really reaching a buffer like when tethered..

So I guess the bottom line is does C-1 work with snow with out any funky corruptions like with 4.5 which completely corrupted images even after you shot them...

Also on a side note does any body know If I could install snow to my SSD PCI slot Card and boot from it.. I always like experimenting with new stuff..:+]

Snook
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: phila on August 30, 2009, 12:41:13 am
Anyone tried Canon Image Utility yet? I don't want to update the laptop until I know I can still tether OK.

(Not really the correct forum I know, but this is where most of the questions seem to be happening). :-)
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Ed Taylor on August 30, 2009, 11:16:45 am
Quote from: Snook
Has anybody had success with C-1 on Snow yet.. I never even install 4.8.2 on any machine as did not find it necesary.
I did have the problem with C-1 being really slow on the laptop with and LCD TV monitor connecting but I think that was because I have a 256mb video card so it takes to long to load to the LCD screen, plus I am finding shooting UN tethered better these days as tethered just slows everything down and people seem to comment too much when shooting tethered which alos slows things down.
I tried to shoot a couple tethered show them the lighting then un plug and fire away. much fast and with my RZ in studio I can just fire away with out really reaching a buffer like when tethered..

So I guess the bottom line is does C-1 work with snow with out any funky corruptions like with 4.5 which completely corrupted images even after you shot them...

Also on a side note does any body know If I could install snow to my SSD PCI slot Card and boot from it.. I always like experimenting with new stuff..:+]

Snook

C1 4.8.2 seems to be running fine on both my Mac Pro and MBP with SL. Tethering works fine as well. FTR, I have not done an exhaustive test by any means, so take this with a grain of salt as YMMV did look at the workaround explained on the C1 site, But didn't seem to need it for whatever reason.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Snook on August 30, 2009, 11:55:08 am
Quote from: Ed Taylor
C1 4.8.2 seems to be running fine on both my Mac Pro and MBP with SL. Tethering works fine as well. FTR, I have not done an exhaustive test by any means, so take this with a grain of salt as YMMV did look at the workaround explained on the C1 site, But didn't seem to need it for whatever reason.
Did you do an upgrade to snow or fresh install?

Thanks for more information
Snook
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Ed Taylor on August 30, 2009, 12:11:56 pm
Quote from: Snook
Did you do an upgrade to snow or fresh install?

Thanks for more information
Snook

Upgrade. Stripped out X11 and additional languages, included Rosetta, (for Quiken/Quickbooks).
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Voltman on August 30, 2009, 04:45:27 pm
Quote from: Snook
Also on a side note does any body know If I could install snow to my SSD PCI slot Card and boot from it.. I always like experimenting with new stuff..:+]

Are you referring to an ExpressCard slot on a MacBook Pro or a PCI slot on a Mac Pro ??
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Snook on August 30, 2009, 08:47:44 pm
Quote from: Voltman
Are you referring to an ExpressCard slot on a MacBook Pro or a PCI slot on a Mac Pro ??

Express card slot on the macbook pro...:+}

Thanks

Snook
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Adina on August 31, 2009, 05:46:21 am
Quote from: foto-z
Just updated to Snow Leopard.
Sinar eXposure 6.2 and Photoshop CS4 seem to work normally after quick test.
I had to update Little Snitch to the latest beta version (which is Snow compatible).
And my mail program (Thunderbird) is suddenly displaying Russian text properly!
Was nice to get 10GB of disk space back too.

hi,

have you testet the Brumbaer Tools ?


Greetings
Adina
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Voltman on August 31, 2009, 07:27:49 pm
Quote from: Snook
Express card slot on the macbook pro...:+}

Thanks

Snook

Should work if you partition it as GUID in disk utility.   FWIW I run Linux on an ExpressCard SSD - performance sucks but then again its an older drive with I believe USB interface.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Frank Doorhof on September 02, 2009, 02:01:52 am
Hi
when using an esata card with sil3124 chipset watch out.
The cards are not supported.
I'm running one with sonnet drivers and that seems to work fine however do test this before making the final switch.
My original card drivers caused kernel panics.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Hywel on September 02, 2009, 12:14:25 pm
Follow-up to my problem with Phocus not showing my MacBook's Hard Drive under the "File System" panel in the browser under Snow Leopard.

A few emails exchanged with Hasselblad and some info gathering on my system sent to them and they are on the case, a fix is expected before too long. More importantly they have provided a perfectly serviceable workaround in the meantime.

If anyone else is experiencing the problem, the workaround is:

"In the Job Info tool select the boot volume as a capture destination by using the Choose option.
It will show up with the rather odd name "/" but never mind that.
Once this is done you can drag it from Capture Destination to Favourites and you'll have full access to the boot volume this way."

which works perfectly for me.

  I must say I am impressed with the speed of response.
 
  Cheers, Hywel Phillips


Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: bdp on September 04, 2009, 02:59:05 am
An update regarding Sinar eXposure: DO NOT instal Snow Leopard if you use eXposure. I discovered two problems today and although they may be fixable with a prefs trash or something similarly simple I haven't tried it yet.

The colour calibration does not work and results in a crash. This is only when doing a proper Gretag Macbeth chart calibration - a simple grey balance using the default (or other existing) input profile works fine.

Also the colour of the previews seems very wrong compared to the exported tiffs - way under saturated and warm - it's as if eXposure is no longer using the monitor calibration to correct the colour of the previews or something like that.

Anyway nothing fatal, but enough to stop me upgrading to Snow Leopard on my main machine in the studio until Sinar or Apple fixes these problems.

Ben
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Frank Doorhof on September 04, 2009, 03:07:27 am
Forget about that sonnet drivers, it works for like two reboots and then Snow Leopard doesn't want to boot.
Removing the card won't help, installed over the OS and everything worked again.
Yanked the card out and will order another one without the SIL chipset, looking at the Lacie 4 ports but decided to first mail them if it works
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: FlashDB on September 09, 2009, 12:54:08 am
Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography
Maybe I am foolish to believe this but... c'mon Phase One has known that Snow Leopard has been coming out for quite some time.
The developer's version has been available for a long time too.
The creative world runs mostly on Mac Os. Don't you think Phase should have had their act together to get a proper update ready?
Adobe was up to speed... why not Phase?

Sure they knew Dolce!
Phase One is working together with Microsoft on Capture One now: http://www.phaseone.com/Content/PressInfo/...ssReleases.aspx (http://www.phaseone.com/Content/PressInfo/PressMaterial/PhaseOneDBPressReleases.aspx)
I guess Windows 7 has a bigger priority..

I always wait anyway, no rush here!  

/David
Contax & P25
H3DII-39MS
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Adina on September 09, 2009, 05:13:56 am
New Gamma Value on 10.6: !

http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3712?viewlocale=en_US (http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3712?viewlocale=en_US)

Greetings
Adina
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Graham Mitchell on September 09, 2009, 06:25:18 am
Quote from: bdp
An update regarding Sinar eXposure: DO NOT instal Snow Leopard if you use eXposure.

It appears to be working ok here. In any case, try reporting issues to Sinar directly.
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: bdp on September 09, 2009, 06:55:18 am
Quote from: foto-z
It appears to be working ok here. In any case, try reporting issues to Sinar directly.

Hi Graham,

I have reported it to Sinar and they are aware of it. They are working on a SL compatible update, among other things.

Ben
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: Doug Peterson on September 09, 2009, 10:21:00 am
Quote from: FlashDB
Sure they knew Dolce!
Phase One is working together with Microsoft on Capture One now: http://www.phaseone.com/Content/PressInfo/...ssReleases.aspx (http://www.phaseone.com/Content/PressInfo/PressMaterial/PhaseOneDBPressReleases.aspx)
I guess Windows 7 has a bigger priority..

I always wait anyway, no rush here!  

/David
Contax & P25
H3DII-39MS

 

It's extremely likely that when all is said and done Capture One will have been fully stable and supported in Snow Leopard within weeks of the release of the new OS. That's really quite good.

Apple DEPENDS on companies like Adobe to be ready to go on launch day and so provide them all sorts of incentives and inside access to ensure that. For a company like Phase One, which uses some VERY sophisticated hooks in the OS (e.g. direct memory access and extreme performance tweaking for multi-core computers) compatibility with a new OS is a major project.

There might even be news tomorrow about this. No promises though. As always, if there is a new software release Capture Integration will be on top of it for testing and information dissemination. We have Snow Leopard installed on a 15" MBP and 8-core MP ready for testing with a variety of backs and cameras.

You can use the RSS feed (http://url=&quot;http://www.captureintegration.com/2008/08/11/rss-feeds/) to stay informed.

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Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: yaya on September 09, 2009, 01:49:10 pm
Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography
Maybe I am foolish to believe this but... c'mon Phase One has known that Snow Leopard has been coming out for quite some time.
The developer's version has been available for a long time too.

The creative world runs mostly on Mac Os. Don't you think Phase should have had their act together to get a proper update ready?
Adobe was up to speed... why not Phase?

In my experience, the final OS "release" build is only available to developers when it is fully released...

This means that if there are any changes in the release version that affect certain apps (bugs or whatever) it'll most likely require another round of testing & debugging from the apps developers, which usually takes anything between a few days to a few weeks.

Yair
Title: OSX SNOW out tomorrow, which softwares will work??
Post by: ziocan on September 10, 2009, 12:06:19 am
Quote from: yaya
In my experience, the final OS "release" build is only available to developers when it is fully released...

This means that if there are any changes in the release version that affect certain apps (bugs or whatever) it'll most likely require another round of testing & debugging from the apps developers, which usually takes anything between a few days to a few weeks.

Yair
LOL, this thread is really funny!
Almost everybody asking each other to be guinea pig for their computers.