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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: kaelaria on May 08, 2005, 09:52:21 pm

Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: kaelaria on May 08, 2005, 09:52:21 pm
That's cool - it looks almost cg!  What color is the sand in the pic?
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on May 09, 2005, 06:07:23 am
Nice location, though the light is too harsh. The black coating in the rocks is the result of "desert varnish", due to mechanical and chemical erosion at the surface.
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: michel on May 09, 2005, 11:05:34 am
yes, early morning or late afternoon light is always much better. sometimes some had to deal with the actual situation. 'unfortunately' i hve been there at 11am. maybe next time...thanks
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 09, 2005, 02:12:27 pm
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I like the color version much better.  The B&W is interesting but the color gives a much better sense of depth.
To me, the color version is interesting, but the B&W one is fantastic. The abstraction provided by the monochrome rendition adds to the sense of a fantastic place. The B&W has some excitement for me; the color one just tells me "Oh, that's what it really looks like." And I like the harsh lighting, too. But if you get a chance to do an early morning or late afternoon shot some day, please post it.

Very nice!

Eric
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 09, 2005, 06:00:04 pm
Great idea, Robert. I wish I'd thought of it. It just goes to show how a little abstraction can stimulate the imagination.

Eric
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Julian Love on May 10, 2005, 12:16:39 pm
I've just returned from the western desert last week, and have a few pictures online - they're pretty rushed as they've just been processed quickly on my lapop for some friends to see:

http://www.adventurephotographer.net (http://www.adventurephotographer.net)

The scenery is truly spectacular, especially the descent into Dakhla oasis from Farafra. The area is highly recommended for any landscape fan.

Julian
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: michel on May 10, 2005, 01:30:53 pm
hi julien,

nice pics on your web. seems that we shoot similar subjects at similar locations
> http://www.myfourthirds.com/folder.php?id=586 (http://www.myfourthirds.com/folder.php?id=586)

cu
michael
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: francois on May 10, 2005, 02:35:30 pm
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I, on the other hand, like the lighting the way it is in this photo.  Light *is* harsh in the Egyptian desert, and the harsh lighting gives a better feel for the atmosphere of the place, and enhances the effect you're trying to capture.

Lisa
Agree.  Its not true that you can or should only shoot at dawn or dusk.   That's photographic political correctness.  Some shots work better in these lighting conditions

Quentin
Yes it's true!
The posted photos do really show the harshness of the desert but it would have been nice to see softer light versions - just to compare.

PS: Lisa, actually I do like the photos but I was just curious!

Francois
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: larkvi on May 14, 2005, 04:21:43 pm
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I, on the other hand, like the lighting the way it is in this photo.  Light *is* harsh in the Egyptian desert, and the harsh lighting gives a better feel for the atmosphere of the place, and enhances the effect you're trying to capture.

Lisa
I agree with Lisa--while there is probably a great shot in the morning/evening as well, but the harshness of the terrain is well served by harsh light.

And the Black and white really works for me.
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: michel on May 30, 2005, 02:38:21 am
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Agree.  Its not true that you can or should only shoot at dawn or dusk.   That's photographic political correctness.  Some shots work better in these lighting conditions

Quentin
I just mentioned that the light is too harsh. I did not mention that you can/should only shoot at dawn or dusk. I have a bit of experience photographing in the desert, in the Empty Quarter and Wahibas of Oman. Invariably, the colours of the sand are richer with warmer side lighting, and the textures are more clearly picked up too.

To me, the photograph in question would be more interesting under a different light. It is fine to cpature the harshness of the desert, but it is visually less compelling.

I do understand the limitations imposed by not being able to be in one place at the right time. The image is still interesting, all I am saying is that there is potential for more.
hi quentin,
i never see your words as a destructive critique. its your opinion and thats OK. i wish i have had the chance to shoot this in several light conditions 'cause i know very well different conditions results in different images.i had live live with it as it is. that's life. agree with u that there is potential for more...
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: michel on May 08, 2005, 11:31:45 am
black desert between bahariya and farafra oasis/egypt.

(http://www.myfourthirds.com/files/0412/_2102683-85sw.jpg)

taken with Olympus E-1, 14-54mm/f2.8-3.5, ISO100, f6.3, 1/320s, 14mm
3 handheld shots stichted.
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Lawn on May 08, 2005, 06:34:45 pm
That looks beautiful. Thanks for the photo.
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: michel on May 09, 2005, 05:16:50 am
here's the color version (but i prefer the b/w)

(http://www.zwo5.de/_public/egypt05/_2102683-85.jpg)
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: francois on May 09, 2005, 10:20:52 am
I love both B&W and color but like pbizarro I'd like to see the same landscape under an early morning or late afternoon light.
 

Francois
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Lisa Nikodym on May 09, 2005, 11:47:29 am
I, on the other hand, like the lighting the way it is in this photo.  Light *is* harsh in the Egyptian desert, and the harsh lighting gives a better feel for the atmosphere of the place, and enhances the effect you're trying to capture.

Lisa
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: kaelaria on May 09, 2005, 12:47:29 pm
I like the color version much better.  The B&W is interesting but the color gives a much better sense of depth.
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Robert Spoecker on May 09, 2005, 03:47:14 pm
Michel

The black and white image is just great. IMHO it looks like it has more mystery in B&W than color. I right away thought it would look interesting as a negative also so I imported it to Photoshop and inverted it. The hills now look like salt hills and the sky is quite dark but still looks plausible. Try it I think you will like it.

Robert
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: michel on May 10, 2005, 03:27:39 am
robert, that was a really great idea. isn't it amazing how many variations of just one image are working...?
the image is origin titled 'on earth' in opposite of its appearance.
thanks.
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Julian Love on May 10, 2005, 12:18:11 pm
I've just returned from the western desert last week, and have a few pictures online - they're pretty rushed as they've just been processed quickly on my lapop for some friends to see:

http://www.adventurephotographer.net (http://www.adventurephotographer.net)

The scenery is truly spectacular, especially the descent into Dakhla oasis from Farafra. The area is highly recommended for any landscape fan.

Julian
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Quentin on May 10, 2005, 01:38:54 pm
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I, on the other hand, like the lighting the way it is in this photo.  Light *is* harsh in the Egyptian desert, and the harsh lighting gives a better feel for the atmosphere of the place, and enhances the effect you're trying to capture.

Lisa
Agree.  Its not true that you can or should only shoot at dawn or dusk.   That's photographic political correctness.  Some shots work better in these lighting conditions

Quentin
Title: If u ever go to egypt
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on May 16, 2005, 02:37:11 am
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Agree.  Its not true that you can or should only shoot at dawn or dusk.   That's photographic political correctness.  Some shots work better in these lighting conditions

Quentin
I just mentioned that the light is too harsh. I did not mention that you can/should only shoot at dawn or dusk. I have a bit of experience photographing in the desert, in the Empty Quarter and Wahibas of Oman. Invariably, the colours of the sand are richer with warmer side lighting, and the textures are more clearly picked up too.

To me, the photograph in question would be more interesting under a different light. It is fine to cpature the harshness of the desert, but it is visually less compelling.

I do understand the limitations imposed by not being able to be in one place at the right time. The image is still interesting, all I am saying is that there is potential for more.