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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: thsinar on February 26, 2009, 12:00:57 am

Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: thsinar on February 26, 2009, 12:00:57 am
To all who feel concerned:

I wish to inform you here and officially that I will stop any post made with my "Sinar" signature.

My working contract with Sinar AG Switzerland has been terminated by Sinar yesterday, February 24th 2009.

I won't make any remark, nor give any information in public as for the reasons of the termination or others, being bound by confidentiality.

Starting now, I would like to ask those having specific Sinar questions, technical issues or other Sinar related requests, to contact either their respective distributor or dealer, or Sinar directly.

I would really like to thank all the members here, with whom I had the privilege to communicate and exchange information, sometimes to answer questions and help with issues. It has been my very pleasure, and never a "must" situation for me. And I would like to thank also those who have read my posts without participating.

I shall as per today open a new account here and continue my participation as an independent member.

Thanks again to all, for your so valuable support all the time, for those nice words sent to me, and for having tolerated my presence.

My special thanks go here and of course also to Michael Reichmann, for having welcomed me in his placed and for having offered me the possibility to participate.
These thanks are as well for his team.

All the best to all, with all my wishes of doing well in these difficult times ahead.
Best regards,
Thierry
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: paulmoorestudio on February 26, 2009, 12:46:05 am
Quote from: thsinar
To all who feel concerned:

I wish to inform you here and officially that I will stop any post made with my "Sinar" signature.

My working contract with Sinar AG Switzerland has been terminated by Sinar yesterday, February 24th 2009.

I won't make any remark, nor give any information in public as for the reasons of the termination or others, being bound by confidentiality.

Starting now, I would like to ask those having specific Sinar questions, technical issues or oder Sinar related requests, to contact either their respective distributor or dealer, or Sinar directly.

I would really like to thank all the members here, with whom I had the privilege to communicate and exchange information, sometimes to answer questions and help with issues. It has been my very pleasure, and never a "must" situation for me. And I would like to thank also those who have read my post without participating.

I shall as per today open a new account here and continue my participation as an independent member.

Thanks again to all, for your so valuable support all the time, for those nice words sent to me, and for having tolerated my presence.

My special thanks go here and of course also to Michael Reichmann, for having welcomed me in his placed and for having offered me the possibility to participate.
These thanks are as well for his team.

All the best to all, with all my wishes of a doing well in these difficult times ahead.
Best regards,
Thierry

I wish you the best in the future, I feel you have, in your role as a sinar rep, been an asset to this forum.  glad you will still be a part of it.
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: EricWHiss on February 26, 2009, 01:06:05 am
Thierry,
Thank you for all your helpful posts and Best Wishes.  I'm thankful you'll still be a part of the forums here too.
Eric
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: BernardLanguillier on February 26, 2009, 01:13:00 am
Quote from: thsinar
I wish to inform you here and officially that I will stop any post made with my "Sinar" signature.

My working contract with Sinar AG Switzerland has been terminated by Sinar yesterday, February 24th 2009.

I won't make any remark, nor give any information in public as for the reasons of the termination or others, being bound by confidentiality.

Thierry,

Really rorry to hear that, I sure hope that you will find quickly an interesting position where your experience of high end photogrpahy will be put to good use.

Thanks for your helpful and kind posts all through the years.

All the best.

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Dale Allyn on February 26, 2009, 01:19:01 am
Thierry,

I have appreciated your participation here, as a Sinar representative, and will continue to do so as you participate here privately.

Best wishes for your success in your future endeavors.

Regards,

Dale
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Post by: Ray on February 26, 2009, 01:39:18 am
Best wishes from me too, Thierry. Is your new account going to be anonymous, or will we all know it's the old Thierry?  
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Post by: Anders_HK on February 26, 2009, 02:23:40 am
Thierry,

Much kind thanks to all your interesting posts from the inside of Sinar. They have been tremendous contribution to this forum.

Like all others posting here, may I wish you the very best luck on your next assignment.

Regards
Anders
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Post by: bradleygibson on February 26, 2009, 02:29:20 am
Sorry to hear the news, Thierry.

You've been a tireless cheerleader for Sinar, and I know I wouldn't have had my all-too-brief, torrid love affair with my Hy6 if it were not for your help and guidance.

Thank you and all the best in your future endeavours.

Best regards,
Brad
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Post by: MHFA on February 26, 2009, 03:10:00 am
Best wishes.
Thank you for your helpful posts.


M.Heinrich
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Post by: PdF on February 26, 2009, 03:16:28 am
Cher Thierry,

Voilà une nouvelle qui m'attriste autant qu'elle ne m'étonne pas...

Votre participation active, courageuse, et hautement diplomatique en tant qu'interface officieuse de Sinar nous a permis de profiter de services exceptionnels.

Dans l'attente de vous retrouver au plus vite sur LL, je vous souhaite bien du courage et de la chance pour votre avenir professionnel.


Philippe de Formanoir
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Post by: avelpavel on February 26, 2009, 03:25:06 am
Thierry,

All the best for the future and thanks for the great support you have given and surely you will give from now on.

I think about my short experience with Sinar, it would have been really hard without your kind support directly via pm and indirectly reading the forum posts.

Good luck!

Kind regards

Roberto


_________________________
www.robertopastrovicchio.com
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Rob C on February 26, 2009, 04:33:31 am
Thierry

I never communicated with you for the simple reason that your level of equipment is way beyond the sensible level of somebody in my retired and nervous position.

I wish you the best of luck for the future and, hoping you won´t take offence, might I suggest you consider fields other than photography? I have long believed that the profession and, as a consequence, its tools are endangered species. Yes, plenty of wealthy amateurs still exist, but for how long will they continue to support a game where the price of entry is so high and the actual rewards so slim? The art of photography can be enjoyed at many levels of the game - I do not believe that enthusiasts will for ever allow themselves to be creamed... Leica provided a good enough level for the richer peacock as well as something good for the photographer; will the game support a large enough higher play?

Good luck, my man.

Rob C
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: evgeny on February 26, 2009, 05:09:22 am
Thierry, thank you for all help.
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Post by: Easton on February 26, 2009, 05:09:29 am
Best luck for your new path!

It's a massive loss for Sinar!
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Post by: mcfoto on February 26, 2009, 05:24:11 am
Hi Thierry
Both Gay & I are very surprised that this has happened, very sorry! I wish you the best in the future. You flew the flag for Sinar on this form & you made thousands of posts ( even on your weekends). Whats going on with Sinar? Sun Studios in Australia are no longer a Sinar agent a few weeks ago & now this??????
Denis
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Post by: Carsten W on February 26, 2009, 05:25:10 am
Quote from: thsinar
I wish to inform you here and officially that I will stop any post made with my "Sinar" signature.

My working contract with Sinar AG Switzerland has been terminated by Sinar yesterday, February 24th 2009.

I am very sorry to hear this, especially as I wasn't even able (yet) to initiate a formal business relationship with you and Sinar, although I am still planning to do get a Sinar DB when funds allow.

I hope that you find something suitable to replace this job. I look forward to seeing more of your private work posted here?
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Post by: PatrikR on February 26, 2009, 05:28:12 am
Quote from: Easton
It's a massive loss for Sinar!

Damn Shame!
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Post by: rainer_v on February 26, 2009, 06:06:26 am
i feel sad.
sinar is loosing their best face to the public .......
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Post by: Graham Mitchell on February 26, 2009, 06:07:14 am
Thierry, thanks for all your help over the years, and contribution to this forum. I'm glad you'll be sticking around! Sinar is losing a great asset.
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Post by: PeterA on February 26, 2009, 06:41:00 am
I am very sorry to hear this news Thierry. Of course all the best to you and yours. Sinar has lost a great advocate and supporter.
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Post by: David WM on February 26, 2009, 07:06:39 am
Thank you for your prompt assistance whenever the need arose Thierry. I look forward to hearing what your next step is.

Best regards, David
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Post by: ynp on February 26, 2009, 07:14:03 am
Dear Thierry,

I am terribly sorry to hear that.
Thanks for all your help and support. Without your  contributions to this forum and personal communications  I and some others ,
who do  not enjoy good in-country dealer support, would have been  left  on their own.

Good luck and do not hesitate to contact me off-line is you need any assistance in my part of the world.

Thanks again,
Yevgeny

Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Photostudent on February 26, 2009, 07:51:16 am
Quote from: thsinar
To all who feel concerned:

I wish to inform you here and officially that I will stop any post made with my "Sinar" signature.

My working contract with Sinar AG Switzerland has been terminated by Sinar yesterday, February 24th 2009.

I won't make any remark, nor give any information in public as for the reasons of the termination or others, being bound by confidentiality.

Starting now, I would like to ask those having specific Sinar questions, technical issues or other Sinar related requests, to contact either their respective distributor or dealer, or Sinar directly.

I would really like to thank all the members here, with whom I had the privilege to communicate and exchange information, sometimes to answer questions and help with issues. It has been my very pleasure, and never a "must" situation for me. And I would like to thank also those who have read my posts without participating.

I shall as per today open a new account here and continue my participation as an independent member.

Thanks again to all, for your so valuable support all the time, for those nice words sent to me, and for having tolerated my presence.

My special thanks go here and of course also to Michael Reichmann, for having welcomed me in his placed and for having offered me the possibility to participate.
These thanks are as well for his team.

All the best to all, with all my wishes of doing well in these difficult times ahead.
Best regards,
Thierry

Dear Thierry,

Best of luck for your future. and thanks for all the experienced you shared with us.

anyone can tell me what is wrong with sinar. now afraid of being sinar user.
 

Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Jeff Weir on February 26, 2009, 07:59:46 am
Many thanks for all of you help over the years.  You are a tremendous asset to our group.
I wish you the very best of luck in the future.
Jeff

Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: BJNY on February 26, 2009, 08:03:19 am
VERY sad news indeed, Thierry,
for someone as dedicated and loyal as you've been to Sinar
to lose your livelihood during these times
AND having to manage a move back to Switzerland.

You have been a great "face" for Sinar,
tireless in answering any question posed, and in correcting inaccuracies.

My respect to you,
Billy




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Post by: jps on February 26, 2009, 08:03:26 am
Dear Thierry,

Very sad to read this. A great loss for Sinar.

Best wishes for the future.
JOHN
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Post by: guano on February 26, 2009, 08:12:30 am
Dear Thierry,

Thank you for your tireless contributions to this forum as the 'public face' of Sinar - we shall certainly miss you in this regard. Your updates always kept me one step ahead of Sinar's distributor in the UK - they always wondered how I got my information ahead of them! However, I'm glad to hear that you will be staying on and I look forward to your continued contributions here and elsewhere.

With every best wish in your future endeavours,

Guann-Yeu
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: david o on February 26, 2009, 09:06:14 am
Thierry,

c'est une desolante nouvelle. Ta presence ici comme representant mais aussi comme photographe a ete, est et sera toujours grandement appréciée pour sa pertinence.

Alors salut thsinar et bienvenue a Thierry.

d
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Post by: Imaginara on February 26, 2009, 09:13:55 am
Yepp. Sinar is loosing out, we're not ... since you will remain here  
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Post by: BobDavid on February 26, 2009, 09:37:35 am
Good luck to you, Thierry. I've appreciated your posts over the past couple of years that I've been logging onto this forum. I am sure you will find another position soon.
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Post by: paratom on February 26, 2009, 09:45:28 am
Quote from: BobDavid
Good luck to you, Thierry. I've appreciated your posts over the past couple of years that I've been logging onto this forum. I am sure you will find another position soon.

I am sorry to hear this and I also would like to thank you for helping me in deciding for the Hy6 system and learning to use it.
Best for your future, Tom
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Post by: Geoffrey on February 26, 2009, 10:23:41 am
Thierry -

You professionalism and dedication is without reproach. I hope these qualities continue to serve you in whatever venture you undertake. You have our now obvious support.

Geoffrey
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Post by: elitegroup on February 26, 2009, 10:46:18 am
Thank you for your time and expertise it has been very much appreciated Thierry.

A huge loss for Sinar, the economic climate must have caught up with them?
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Post by: David Klepacki on February 26, 2009, 10:58:57 am
Thierry, shocking news and a loss to Sinar, but I wish you the best in your newfound freedom.

David
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Post by: eronald on February 26, 2009, 10:59:13 am
Quote from: elitegroup
Thank you for your time and expertise it has been very much appreciated Thierry.

A huge loss for Sinar, the economic climate must have caught up with them?

Bonne chance Thierry. However I consider you still owe me a beer

Are you going to stay in Thailand ?

Edmund
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Post by: BlasR on February 26, 2009, 11:08:53 am
Any one die?

he just lost a job, like million other people, wish him good luck.

Everyone sound like he is going. he is dead

Thierry,

if you don't find another job, just find a girl have couples kids, and life will be good, if not

drive a tuk-tuk, you can do that no?

If I go to thailand, I can used a good driver,  

hold, you can take nice photos, go to the street and sale it for food and place to sleep.

Good luck to you

BlasR

Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: fpoole on February 26, 2009, 12:20:06 pm
Thierry,
Sorry to hear this - a huge loss for Sinar and for Sinar owners.
 I want to thank you for all your help on this forum and in PM. It has been invaluable and reassuring.  Please keep me on your list of contacts.  I had always hoped to meet you at the shows in nyc, but I may be in your part of the world this summer and yes, I still owe you dinner.

All the best.

Frank Poole
www.frankpoole.com  
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Post by: Mitchell Baum on February 26, 2009, 01:03:21 pm
Very sorry to hear this.

Greatly appreciate your help, clarity, and civility (often under trying circumstances).
 
Sinar and Sinar owners, like me, are loosing a great asset.

All the best for the future.

Mitchell
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Post by: lisa_r on February 26, 2009, 02:26:28 pm
Is Sinar going under?

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Post by: paulmoorestudio on February 26, 2009, 02:49:23 pm
Quote from: BlasR
Any one die?

he just lost a job, like million other people, wish him good luck.

Everyone sound like he is going. he is dead

Thierry,

if you don't find another job, just find a girl have couples kids, and life will be good, if not

drive a tuk-tuk, you can do that no?

If I go to thailand, I can used a good driver,  

hold, you can take nice photos, go to the street and sale it for food and place to sleep.

Good luck to you

BlasR

I suppose you think you are funny..I miss the humor here.. time and place for everything.
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Post by: BlasR on February 26, 2009, 02:56:55 pm
Quote from: paulmoorestudio
I suppose you think you are funny..I miss the humor here.. time and place for everything.


 Paul,

Wishing luck to someone, is very different then what is going here.

he only lost a job, no he's life.

To me is funny how everyone come to give an opnion in how good he was, the sinar lost the best in so on.

other then say good luck, find another job.

Life is like that, for me he only lost a job, maybe for you is is dead.  Sad for you

BlasR
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Post by: bdp on February 26, 2009, 02:58:22 pm
Thierry,

I would like to add I am shocked to hear this news too. First the big changes with Sun Studios over here and now you... something is going on.

Thank you for all your help over the years, on this forum and privately via PM and email. All the best for the future.

Ben
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Post by: Steve Hendrix on February 26, 2009, 03:37:45 pm
Quote from: BlasR
Paul,

Wishing luck to someone, is very different then what is going here.

he only lost a job, no he's life.

To me is funny how everyone come to give an opnion in how good he was, the sinar lost the best in so on.

other then say good luck, find another job.

Life is like that, for me he only lost a job, maybe for you is is dead.  Sad for you

BlasR


I think what we're seeing here is respect and appreciation for someone who put energy into trying to deliver factual information where it is rare; Who offered help to those who thought they had none; Who clearly was dedicated to his profession.

While he didn't save the world, I think he is being recognized for his service and dedication. For those who have appreciated that, he will be missed. And I think that is entirely appropriate.


Steve Hendrix
Phase One
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Post by: Nick-T on February 26, 2009, 03:57:23 pm
Quote from: Steve Hendrix/Phase One
I think what we're seeing here is respect and appreciation for someone who put energy into trying to deliver factual information where it is rare; Who offered help to those who thought they had none; Who clearly was dedicated to his profession.

While he didn't save the world, I think he is being recognized for his service and dedication. For those who have appreciated that, he will be missed. And I think that is entirely appropriate.


Steve Hendrix
Phase One


Well said Steve.

Nick-T
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Post by: paulmoorestudio on February 26, 2009, 03:59:44 pm
Quote from: BlasR
Paul,

Wishing luck to someone, is very different then what is going here.

he only lost a job, no he's life.

To me is funny how everyone come to give an opnion in how good he was, the sinar lost the best in so on.

other then say good luck, find another job.

Life is like that, for me he only lost a job, maybe for you is is dead.  Sad for you

BlasR

Do you think anyone is appreciative of your take on this thread?.. thank you for your analysis, but I think all here
would be pleased if you would just shut the __up.. I am not even going to try to explain reality like steve has, you
obviously have the sensitivity of panf with a 29a filter..I do hope you apply more sensitivity to photography than you show here.
But please have the last word and expose yourself more.. .sad for me?,no, sad for all of us who read it.
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Post by: BlasR on February 26, 2009, 05:10:35 pm
Quote from: Steve Hendrix/Phase One
I think what we're seeing here is respect and appreciation for someone who put energy into trying to deliver factual information where it is rare; Who offered help to those who thought they had none; Who clearly was dedicated to his profession.

While he didn't save the world, I think he is being recognized for his service and dedication. For those who have appreciated that, he will be missed. And I think that is entirely appropriate.


Steve Hendrix
Phase One


Steve ,
 

 Did you read, the he is going to be around?

yes is appreciation, but those note are sad, I almost cry thinking he going for good.

just wish him luck
In the passed someone die in nepal, the was great in here, that was sad,

but he only lost a job.

I work as a Journalist for a news paper for 9 years, and after I have kids, I left  five years ago,, they still today want me back  ( I guess I was good).

If they need him, and he was good maybe they take him back, is not life continuo on.

just wish him luck with happiness .  

I'm still think the drive a tuk tuk, is a good job, if you are not good and one, move to the next one

Done here, paul used the word F.  


Have a good life

BLASR
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: jonstewart on February 26, 2009, 05:36:34 pm
Dear Thierry,
Thanks for all your help while you were in your last job. I look forward to your continued sharing of expertise in whatever field you are moving into.

I wish you well, and hope that this change will become something positive, even if it doesn't really feel like that right now. Changes in job status nearly always have a degree of uncertainty, if not trepidation about them, and even if they are not forced on us. I'm sure many here empathise with your situation.
God Bless
Jon
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Post by: jjj on February 26, 2009, 06:44:00 pm
Another vote for the good job Thiery did in representing Sina, giving useful advice and the patience when dealing with some forum posters.
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Post by: Doug Peterson on February 26, 2009, 06:48:12 pm
Often disagreed. Always respected.

Best of luck.

Doug

Doug Peterson,  Head of Technical Services
Capture Integration, Phase One & Canon Dealer (http://www.captureintegration.com)  |  Personal Portfolio (http://www.doug-peterson.com)
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Post by: Guy Mancuso on February 26, 2009, 06:52:50 pm
Good luck and hopefully you will find something you enjoy.

Guy
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Post by: DesW on February 26, 2009, 07:05:50 pm

Thierry,

Yes it was a pleasure to read your controlled and informative replies and postings on this forum--

Hmmm did'nt know about Sun losing Sinar back here--hope they are not giving it to you know who?

Good luck in your new venture and God Speed.

DesW
http://www.deswilliams.com/ (http://www.deswilliams.com/)
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Post by: James R Russell on February 26, 2009, 07:25:07 pm
Quote from: Steve Hendrix/Phase One
I think what we're seeing here is respect and appreciation for someone who put energy into trying to deliver factual information where it is rare; Who offered help to those who thought they had none; Who clearly was dedicated to his profession.

While he didn't save the world, I think he is being recognized for his service and dedication. For those who have appreciated that, he will be missed. And I think that is entirely appropriate.


Steve Hendrix
Phase One


If  I owned a Sinar I would have found Theirry a godsend.  

We all have questions, sometimes frustrations with the products we've bought and obviously manufacturer's reps and dealers have an agenda to put their product in the best light and to move product.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with that and the flip side is Steve, Yair, David, Theirry, and a lot of the dealers have given us all a  lot of information that would have been hard to come by left on our own.

I'm sorry Theirry is not with Sinar anymore, especailly Sinar as they seem to be a somewhat cryptic company to get information from and Theirry did a lot to "clarify".  

I know he will do well, because obviously theirry likes to work and people that like working always land on their feet, usually 4 steps ahead.

JR
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Post by: Prakash Patel on February 26, 2009, 09:09:01 pm
Thierry's departure is a big setback for Sinar, especially their presence on the web.

Reading the posts and discussions from Thierry and others here on LL for 6 months to a
year made me switch to the Sinar solution for my type of shooting ( typically switching  = financial whipping).

This kind of pure information from a manufacturers rep is hard to come by without strings attached.

Its only been a few months that there has been a manufacturer's rep from all the backs on this forum: Steve , David, Yair , and Thierry

Somehow, the manufacturers underestimate the power of the web.
This is a great place to read about successes/problems with various solutions (it can also be very boring at times).


The discussions  between members and these web reps transpire into a kind of "forum knowledge"
that serves the function of pre-sales marketing for a manufacturer.

I would have never even bothered to look into the Sinar solution without the discussions on this forum and Thierry's help.

Having used this product for 2 years, I have to say that both the  Sinar product and the service (sales and technical reps) is simply outstanding here in the US.

Its unfortunate to lose someone like Thierry who is passionate about his work and has done a lot to project and represent Sinar product line on the internet.

Having this kind of an international web rep/web face would seem to be a necessity and cost effective solution  for both  branding and pre sales marketing for a manufacturer, particularly in this economy

best to you  Thierry

prakash







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Post by: David K on February 26, 2009, 11:11:24 pm
Thierry,

I will add my voice to the many who have thanked you for your efforts on behalf of Sinar.  I will always appreciate the efforts you made when I was having some difficulty with my Sinar kit.  I wish you and your family the very best of luck and hope you will find an equally satisfying career elsewhere.  Sinar has lost a strong supporter and advocate of their brand.


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Post by: levinson on February 27, 2009, 12:47:17 am
oh thierry, i will miss your help and guidance with my sinarback. good luck on your new endeavor.
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Post by: Adina on February 27, 2009, 05:27:53 am
Best wishes from me too, Thierry.

Sinar: i think the Game is over ...

-brumbaer giving up
-the sinar developer here in this forum
-my dealer
-sun
-thierry

Who is the next?

Greetings
Adina
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Post by: skywalker_shiva on February 27, 2009, 07:12:25 am
Thanks Thierry.

You have often been the voice of sanity on this forum.
Never lost your cool regardless of the provocation.

Hope you will continue in the field of photography.


Good luck.
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Post by: Murray Fredericks on February 27, 2009, 09:06:41 am
Thanks Thierry,

that's sad news.

Murray
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Post by: Wim van Velzen on February 27, 2009, 12:50:23 pm
Thierry,

many thanks for your contributions here. You have certainly done a good job as a rep and as someone who is very interested in photograph.
I hope you´ll find a new job soon!

Wim
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Post by: rethmeier on February 27, 2009, 09:36:52 pm
Thanks for everything as well Thierry!
All the best,
warm regards,
Willem.
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Post by: ThierryH on February 27, 2009, 09:41:28 pm
Here we are:

My new member name is "ThierryH". I have asked Michael to delete my previous account.

Let me say to everybody thank you for this unexpected display of support. It goes straight to the heart, frankly. Like two of you put it: "he did not die" and "he did not save the world". In other words, it is effectively not that important, what happened to me, whatever can be my emotions and feelings. Life goes on and that's the most important. And I had actually said it a few months back and here: I do not need Sinar to survive, for other things in life are more important.

I have simply loved a company, the product and my work, for 19 years. And I have here to thank the whole Koch family, the "grand-father" and creator of Sinar, Carl,  then the "father", Hans Carl, and finally "the sons" Carl Jürg and Lorenz, for having first allowed me to join their company, back in June '90, then to have showed me support and trust throughout the years and in any circumstance, allowing me to move to and to do my work directly out of Thailand: without having the necessary trust in me and the belief that I could handle things alone, without possibilities to control me, that would never have been possible. That was a huge prove of confidence which was in my heart and mind all these last years. I have put a point to not disappoint nor misuse this confidence and trust from 3 generations of the Koch family.

Times have changed since, the Koch family has gone, some other people have gone. The company has been taken over by a foreign company. The management has changed. That is common knowledge and all normal or at least possible, everywhere in the world and for any company. However, Mr. Hans Carl Koch did put an emphasis, when he decided to retire, to hand over Sinar to the most suitable persons and company, to secure the future not only of a leading company, but also of his employees whom he had in great esteem and for whom he cared much. He knew that there was a tremendous amount of knowledge, of motivation and commitment, and last but not least, passion to keep Sinar ahead, among all these employees. All necessary qualities in difficult economic times. He simply knew and remembered that he had grown himself, with his company, only with the help of his employees. We used to call it "the Sinar Family". That is something which I cherished and was proud of, throughout these years, for without this very essential spirit and in such a market as professional photography, it is hard to survive. Times will tell if he did the right thing, for only time is judge.

For me it is a period of my life, nothing more. I will get over it, keeping the good memories and friends I have made throughout the years. Nothing of that is lost. I am not sure what this future will be, and I am even less sure if it will still be in photography. But photography will remain a passion, and that's what counts.

Thanks again and all the best to all,
Thierry

Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Photostudent on February 28, 2009, 12:51:47 am
Quote from: ThierryH
Here we are:

My new member name is "ThierryH". I have asked Michael to delete my previous account.

Let me say to everybody thank you for this unexpected display of support. It goes straight to the heart, frankly. Like two of you put it: "he did not die" and "he did not save the world". In other words, it is effectively not that important, what happened to me, whatever can be my emotions and feelings. Life goes on and that's the most important. And I had actually said it a few months back and here: I do not need Sinar to survive, for other things in life are more important.

I have simply loved a company, the product and my work, for 19 years. And I have here to thank the whole Koch family, the "grand-father" and creator of Sinar, Carl,  then the "father", Hans Carl, and finally "the sons" Carl Jürg and Lorenz, for having first allowed me to join their company, back in June '90, then to have showed me support and trust throughout the years and in any circumstance, allowing me to move to and to do my work directly out of Thailand: without having the necessary trust in me and the belief that I could handle things alone, without possibilities to control me, that would never have been possible. That was a huge prove of confidence which was in my heart and mind all these last years. I have put a point to not disappoint nor misuse this confidence and trust from 3 generations of the Koch family.

Times have changed since, the Koch family has gone, some other people have gone. The company has been taken over by a foreign company. The management has changed. That is common knowledge and all normal or at least possible, everywhere in the world and for any company. However, Mr. Hans Carl Koch did put an emphasis, when he decided to retire, to hand over Sinar to the most suitable persons and company, to secure the future not only of a leading company, but also of his employees whom he had in great esteem and for whom he cared much. He knew that there was a tremendous amount of knowledge, of motivation and commitment, and last but not least, passion to keep Sinar ahead, among all these employees. All necessary qualities in difficult economic times. He simply knew and remembered that he had grown himself, with his company, only with the help of his employees. We used to call it "the Sinar Family". That is something which I cherished and was proud of, throughout these years, for without this very essential spirit and in such a market as professional photography, it is hard to survive. Times will tell if he did the right thing, for only time is judge.

For me it is a period of my life, nothing more. I will get over it, keeping the good memories and friends I have made throughout the years. Nothing of that is lost. I am not sure what this future will be, and I am even less sure if it will still be in photography. But photography will remain a passion, and that's what counts.

Thanks again and all the best to all,
Thierry

hey guys,

he is back to us  
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: AndreNapier on February 28, 2009, 02:46:49 am
Quote from: ThierryH
But photography will remain a passion, and that's what counts.

Thanks again and all the best to all,
Thierry

Thierry,
I always try to look for positives at every set back. Think about it for a second. Finally you will be able to get yourself a really nice Leaf back with Rz67 body and enjoy your passion the way it was always meant to be.
Nice, smooth and easy - real joy of photography. No more need to justify why Sinar is also a workable solution.
Screw the confidentiality, tell us how you really feel and what really went down.
I have a feeling it had something to do with the special edition black body Rollei you have promised me.
Andre

PS
Think positive. After the recent housing market crash a friend of mine who also lost a his life worth gave a metaphoric advice  that even after the worst Tsunami when the water goes down there is shit left all over the beach for ages. Think positive.
Andre
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: BJNY on February 28, 2009, 11:47:38 am
Quote from: ThierryH
Here we are:

My new member name is "ThierryH". I have asked Michael to delete my previous account.

Let me say to everybody thank you for this unexpected display of support. It goes straight to the heart, frankly. Like two of you put it: "he did not die" and "he did not save the world". In other words, it is effectively not that important, what happened to me, whatever can be my emotions and feelings. Life goes on and that's the most important. And I had actually said it a few months back and here: I do not need Sinar to survive, for other things in life are more important.

I have simply loved a company, the product and my work, for 19 years. And I have here to thank the whole Koch family, the "grand-father" and creator of Sinar, Carl,  then the "father", Hans Carl, and finally "the sons" Carl Jürg and Lorenz, for having first allowed me to join their company, back in June '90, then to have showed me support and trust throughout the years and in any circumstance, allowing me to move to and to do my work directly out of Thailand: without having the necessary trust in me and the belief that I could handle things alone, without possibilities to control me, that would never have been possible. That was a huge prove of confidence which was in my heart and mind all these last years. I have put a point to not disappoint nor misuse this confidence and trust from 3 generations of the Koch family.

Times have changed since, the Koch family has gone, some other people have gone. The company has been taken over by a foreign company. The management has changed. That is common knowledge and all normal or at least possible, everywhere in the world and for any company. However, Mr. Hans Carl Koch did put an emphasis, when he decided to retire, to hand over Sinar to the most suitable persons and company, to secure the future not only of a leading company, but also of his employees whom he had in great esteem and for whom he cared much. He knew that there was a tremendous amount of knowledge, of motivation and commitment, and last but not least, passion to keep Sinar ahead, among all these employees. All necessary qualities in difficult economic times. He simply knew and remembered that he had grown himself, with his company, only with the help of his employees. We used to call it "the Sinar Family". That is something which I cherished and was proud of, throughout these years, for without this very essential spirit and in such a market as professional photography, it is hard to survive. Times will tell if he did the right thing, for only time is judge.

For me it is a period of my life, nothing more. I will get over it, keeping the good memories and friends I have made throughout the years. Nothing of that is lost. I am not sure what this future will be, and I am even less sure if it will still be in photography. But photography will remain a passion, and that's what counts.

Thanks again and all the best to all,
Thierry

You are a class act, Thierry.
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on February 28, 2009, 08:16:56 pm
Welcome back, Thierry!

I have always enjoyed your posts, even though I have never used Sinar equipment. Your posts have always seemed to contain valuable information presented in a very civilized and gentlemanly manner, even when responding to some rather unkind posts by others. So I am not surprised at the great outpouring of support you have received, and I am delighted that you will be continuing to be a member of the LL "family".

Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: H1/A75 Guy on February 28, 2009, 08:22:57 pm
Jenoptik bought Sinar?
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: BJNY on February 28, 2009, 08:40:53 pm
Quote from: H1/A75 Guy
Jenoptik bought Sinar?

Priceless.
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: ThierryH on February 28, 2009, 10:04:41 pm
That must be it, Andre!

Thierry

Quote from: AndreNapier
Thierry,

I have a feeling it had something to do with the special edition black body Rollei you have promised me.
Andre
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Khun_K on March 01, 2009, 12:09:51 am
being off to trip and just return to learn this bad news, good people and good product should stay together. Let's all look ahead in stead of looking back.



Quote from: thsinar
To all who feel concerned:

I wish to inform you here and officially that I will stop any post made with my "Sinar" signature.

My working contract with Sinar AG Switzerland has been terminated by Sinar yesterday, February 24th 2009.

I won't make any remark, nor give any information in public as for the reasons of the termination or others, being bound by confidentiality.

Starting now, I would like to ask those having specific Sinar questions, technical issues or other Sinar related requests, to contact either their respective distributor or dealer, or Sinar directly.

I would really like to thank all the members here, with whom I had the privilege to communicate and exchange information, sometimes to answer questions and help with issues. It has been my very pleasure, and never a "must" situation for me. And I would like to thank also those who have read my posts without participating.

I shall as per today open a new account here and continue my participation as an independent member.

Thanks again to all, for your so valuable support all the time, for those nice words sent to me, and for having tolerated my presence.

My special thanks go here and of course also to Michael Reichmann, for having welcomed me in his placed and for having offered me the possibility to participate.
These thanks are as well for his team.

All the best to all, with all my wishes of doing well in these difficult times ahead.
Best regards,
Thierry
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: shutay on March 01, 2009, 03:15:08 am
Good luck Thierry! You have always been knowledgeable and ready to help and clarify. You also took more hits than you deserved, but kept soldiering on for Sinar. You even replied to my questions and seemingly impossible hours of the day, leading me to conclude that you appeared to be working 24x7! Keep in touch.

shutay
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Morgan_Moore on March 01, 2009, 05:37:22 am
T

I know I tried to bash you round the court bit I hope you never took it personally

Your imput was always valued and appreciated

SMM
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Imaginara on March 01, 2009, 06:13:27 am
Quote from: H1/A75 Guy
Jenoptik bought Sinar?

Heh maybe we can get tethered support for the M11/M22 precision backs into Xposure then
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: SeanBK on March 01, 2009, 08:20:41 am
TH,
  Thanks for the past & look forward to your future presence here. I along with countless others appreciate your contributions. Though a vast majority who appreciate you (like me) did not use Sinar, but your constant gentlemanly approach to everything was so refreshing & much needed. By just looking at the response may be people who are rather callous & often downright rude will take note that, people in general do appreciate & remember the consistant politeness, so above all I thank you for that.
  Sincerely
     Sean
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: H1/A75 Guy on March 01, 2009, 11:12:53 am
http://www.sinarcameras.com/ (http://www.sinarcameras.com/)

They should have brought you onboard, Thierry.

David
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: BJNY on March 01, 2009, 11:53:49 am
I believe Sinar has been wholly-owned by Jenoptik for 2+ years.
For a couple years prior to that, Jenoptik  owned a 51% stake in Sinar.

Quote from: H1/A75 Guy
http://www.sinarcameras.com/ (http://www.sinarcameras.com/)

They should have brought you onboard, Thierry.

David
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Dustbak on March 01, 2009, 01:27:24 pm
Sad to hear you got booted after spending so many years at this company. I wish you will find something else soon that will give you at least as much joy & fulfilment.
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: haefnerphoto on March 01, 2009, 04:44:41 pm
Thierry, Any interest in being my European representative?  Jim
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: neil snape on March 02, 2009, 07:51:01 am
Always appreciated your posts, even though I had no reason to interact , not having anything other than a Sinar X.
Glad you're back on a more personal level, you've got lots of info left to share!
Title: from Thierry Hagenauer
Post by: Adina on March 02, 2009, 11:01:51 am
Quote from: haefnerphoto
Thierry, Any interest in being my European representative?  Jim

@Thierry
You see the offers have come ...