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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Other Raw Converters => Topic started by: JPrimgaard on January 05, 2009, 05:12:16 pm
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A question for those using DXO optics.
How long after the introduction of the G9 was it before DXO support was introduced?
Am looking at the price break offered currently on DXO, but really only need it for the G10. Isn't worth it though if it's going to be a long wait.
Thanks for the input!
Jake
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A question for those using DXO optics.
How long after the introduction of the G9 was it before DXO support was introduced?
Am looking at the price break offered currently on DXO, but really only need it for the G10. Isn't worth it though if it's going to be a long wait.
Thanks for the input!
Jake
Well, you could buy DxO now, shoot now, and just run DxO on those images later.
If you go to the DxO site, there is a lot of talk about DxO trying to do a better job of prioritizing new modules, so maybe the G10 will be available soon.
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I believe that DxO has announced that the G10 would be supported in January.
This news is displayed on the front page of their site, and was also reported below on this very section of the forum.
Cheers,
Bernard
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I am getting DXO only for the G10, so if support is many months away it's a waste for me currently.
And I realize what was announced, but I have no experience with this company and don't now what "January" means to these folks (maybe March or May?). I seem to remember other small companies promising support for "XYZ" by whatever date, only to leave it's customers hanging for months and months.
That's why I ask what the G9 support was like as it may be an indicator of their actual responsiveness in adding new support.
Promises are nice, results are what matter
Thanks for the input guys.
Jake
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I am getting DXO only for the G10, so if support is many months away it's a waste for me currently.
And I realize what was announced, but I have no experience with this company and don't now what "January" means to these folks (maybe March or May?). I seem to remember other small companies promising support for "XYZ" by whatever date, only to leave it's customers hanging for months and months.
That's why I ask what the G9 support was like as it may be an indicator of their actual responsiveness in adding new support.
Promises are nice, results are what matter
Thanks for the input guys.
Jake
DxO are not usually late after having announced some future camera support. They were very late with the G9, but then they hadn't announced it either. I would read 'January' as end of January - beginning of February.
DxO are generally late supporting new cameras (I suppose their excuse is they have to do much more work than others since they test and map the camera - lens combinations) but they are usually on time with their announcements.
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Nikos,
Thanks for the input, I saw that they are pushing for end of January. I simply have no experience with this company.
Again, thanks!
Jake
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Nikos,
Thanks for the input, I saw that they are pushing for end of January. I simply have no experience with this company.
Again, thanks!
Jake
I've been using DxO since v3.5. My only experience with them that relates to your question is that I asked them early last year when they'd release a module for the Canon EF 14mm 2.8L II USM on the 5D (the lens came out in autumn of '07) . They promptly emailed me back that "it's on their list."
A year later, nothing.
Currently I'm waiting for them to support the 5D II. Like the G10, they're saying January.
We'll see.
EDIT: Rereading my post, in fairness to DxO I should mention that I've had a couple occasions to deal with their tech support in the last two years, and both times the support staff was thoroughly professional and very quick to respond. Also, IMO their current v5 DxO Optics RAW converter has been excellent when used with my 5D and 24-105 zoom.
In sum I've had no issues their the performance of DxO's product or of their support -- only frustration that they don't have correction modules available for more of the lenses in my kit.
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DxO have just come up with version 5.3.2 supporting the G10 and the 5DII as promised.
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Marc McCalmont just reported that G10 & 5D2 are supported by DXO (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31364&hl= ).
You can read the press release on DXO website: http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/news/DxO-Opt...rection-Modules (http://www.dxo.com/intl/photo/news/DxO-Optics-Pro-now-supports-Canon-5D-Mark-II-Canon-G10-and-32-new-DxO-Optics-Correction-Modules)
Edit: Nikos was faster than me...
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Marc McCalmont just reported that G10 & 5D2 are supported by DXO (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=31364&hl= ).
Cool, now only the D3x is missing. :-)
DxO on the G10 should shine, I cannot wait to try re-converting some "old" G10 files with it to see how it deals with distorsion, etc...
Cheers,
Bernard
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Just tried opening some G10 files with DxO 5.3.2.
The files do open, but the program doesn't seem to be applying any lens distorsion correction... I believed that this was supposed to be totally automated. Am I missing something here?
Cheers,
Bernard
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Just tried opening some G10 files with DxO 5.3.2.
The files do open, but the program doesn't seem to be applying any lens distorsion correction... I believed that this was supposed to be totally automated. Am I missing something here?
Got it, it seems that the G10 module is currently "not allowed" on my DxO instance altough I have an Elite license,... strange.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Bernard
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Got it, it seems that the G10 module is currently "not allowed" on my DxO instance altough I have an Elite license,... strange.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Bernard
Maybe you need to upgrade to the "Elite Pro Supercollosal" license.
I've been waiting to hear your comments before I upgrade. I use DxO for everything else (mainly Canon 5D), and it is a reall annoyance to have to use DPP for my G10 only.
I think I'll download 5.3.2 and see what happens.
Cheers,
Eric
P.S. The G10 is such a fun camera for the situations it is suited for!
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Bernard: I have the same experience as you with the G10 and Canon 5DII. I filed a request with DXO customer service -- they usually get back to me within a day or two. In the meantime, if someone else is able to get the G10 or 5DII profiles to work, I'd love to hear how. . . . I'm looking forward to using the new modules.
Got it, it seems that the G10 module is currently "not allowed" on my DxO instance altough I have an Elite license,... strange.
Any ideas?
Cheers,
Bernard
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I first downloaded 5.3.2 and had no problems with either the G10 or 5D2 files
It now supports my Xsi + Sigma 18-200 OS!
Marc
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Bernard: I have the same experience as you with the G10 and Canon 5DII. I filed a request with DXO customer service -- they usually get back to me within a day or two. In the meantime, if someone else is able to get the G10 or 5DII profiles to work, I'd love to hear how. . . . I'm looking forward to using the new modules.
The advise I got from their support team is to completely un-install 5.3.2 with AppDelete (I am on OS 10.5.6) and to re-install, which I am currently doing.
Cheers,
Bernard
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The advise I got from their support team is to completely un-install 5.3.2 with AppDelete (I am on OS 10.5.6) and to re-install, which I am currently doing.
Cheers,
Bernard
Update, just had the time to do a quick test after re-install, it seems to have worked.
Cheers,
Bernard
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I also got advice from the support team, followed it, and now it's working. The improvement on the G10 files is extraordinary!
Update, just had the time to do a quick test after re-install, it seems to have worked.
Cheers,
Bernard
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I also got advice from the support team, followed it, and now it's working. The improvement on the G10 files is extraordinary!
I didn't really check in details yet, but they quick look I gave at the file seemed promising.
Regards,
Bernard
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By setting lens softness to "0" (default for removing lens softness), the increase in sharpness without increasing noise is extraordinary. At iso 80, these files do compare with a DSLR! I printed a landscape last night that I'd printed before. It now is an extraordinary print, whereas before it looked like a print from a good compact.
I also got advice from the support team, followed it, and now it's working. The improvement on the G10 files is extraordinary!
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One quick sampe from G10 converted with DxO 5.3.2. The correction of lens distorsion seems to work very well but I have not tried all focal lenghts yet.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3217208207_9583886953_o.jpg)
Conversion to B&W done with Silver FX.
Cheers,
Bernard
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One quick sampe from G10 converted with DxO 5.3.2. The correction of lens distorsion seems to work very well but I have not tried all focal lenghts yet.
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3495/3217208207_9583886953_o.jpg)
Conversion to B&W done with Silver FX.
Cheers,
Bernard
Wow, that's impressive. Finally, I might put some money into DxO!
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Wow, that's impressive. Finally, I might put some money into DxO!
The problem is, we don't have comparisons with other methods of correction of lens distortion. I find that correction of distortion is quite easy with Photoshop's warp and distort features. Correction of chromatic abberration or color fringing is also effective in ACR.
Is the advantage here in DXO correction of lens distortion, that more of the image is preserved? Or is it just faster because it's automatic? Both would be advantages.
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The problem is, we don't have comparisons with other methods of correction of lens distortion. I find that correction of distortion is quite easy with Photoshop's warp and distort features. Correction of chromatic abberration or color fringing is also effective in ACR.
Is the advantage here in DXO correction of lens distortion, that more of the image is preserved? Or is it just faster because it's automatic? Both would be advantages.
I agree that corrections of both chromatic abberration and distortion can be done very effectively in Photoshop. The main attraction - for me - is that DxO performs these corrections automatically. I would use it for photos from cameras like the G10.
I've never seen/read any scientific or non-scientific comparison of DxO vs others and I'd be the first to be interested in such a test.
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The problem is, we don't have comparisons with other methods of correction of lens distortion. I find that correction of distortion is quite easy with Photoshop's warp and distort features. Correction of chromatic abberration or color fringing is also effective in ACR.
Is the advantage here in DXO correction of lens distortion, that more of the image is preserved? Or is it just faster because it's automatic? Both would be advantages.
Before I got DxO working, I used the CA controls in LR or ACR, and corrected distortion with PTlens. I still go that route for unsupported cameras and lenses. In my experience, DxO corrections are always at least as good as those alternatives. Some of the other things DxO does (like lens softness) make other substantial improvements that aren't really easy to accomplish with the others anyway. But the DxO automation takes all the hand work out of the process, significantly streamlining my workflow, and that's the real key for me.
For some reason, DPP has stopped applying lens corrrections to my 40D files. I reinstalled it, but it still won't work. So I can't make any comparisons there.