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Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: Alex MacPherson on January 03, 2009, 12:27:38 pm
I bought a Hasselblad H2 recently. I am still waiting for it to arrive.

What case/bag do you keep your Hasselblad H in?
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: BlasR on January 03, 2009, 01:20:08 pm
Glossary plastic bag.

It's free



Sorry what question is that?

Go to the coffee corner to ask for that.

BlasR.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: ziocan on January 03, 2009, 01:45:47 pm
Quote from: BlasR
Glossary plastic bag.

It's free



Sorry what question is that?

Go to the coffee corner to ask for that.

BlasR.
I'm always amazed when adults ask questions like that. not even mentioning photographers.
Any Temba or Pelican of the appropriate size will do.
BTW, if you get a Phase back, it should come with a Pelican case (it is actually another brand for scuba diving gear, but it looks alike), If you replace the foam and custom cut it, it will fit the back, the body and a couple of lenses.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: SeanBK on January 03, 2009, 01:52:25 pm
Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography
I bought a Hasselblad H2 recently. I am still waiting for it to arrive.

What case/bag do you keep your Hasselblad H in?
It all depends on your use & equipments to be transported. Lenses, Flashes... In my case I use Amabilia or Billingham. For corporate gigs where I can roll Amabila across the parking lot. I was taking Landscaping pictures in Maine, Vermont.. then Billingham was the only option. If I am in unsavory environment then I might get something else just for that shoot.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: Alex MacPherson on January 03, 2009, 02:38:46 pm
How is this question any different than asking what lens you favor?

I want opinions. I know any bag/case will do.

Gotta love the internet... everyone wants to show what a (t)wit they are.

Cheer up people
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: Dustbak on January 03, 2009, 02:54:56 pm
I use a Delsey most of the time. It will carry the body/back/L-bracket plus a 100 or 80mm in one compartment with my Elinchrom Skyport set on top. Spare batteries (back & body), blower, extention rings and the 50-110 in the middle compartment. A 28 & 50 or the 35 & 150, or the 210 & 28 or any other combination or sometimes a spare body & spare back (body & back separated) in the last compartment. In the side pockets I keep several firewire cables, CF cards, sync cables. In the front pocket I keepl grey cards, cleaning stuff, torx screw driver, radio remote release & other small stuff.

This bag is not even that big so everything is kind of placed exactly in the same place always to fit. I like to put everything always at the same place, this way I can work faster and my equipment lasts longer. The bag does get pretty heavy.

I hate the cases to work with. With the bag I still have the feeling I can carry it around still. I also have my lights in soft bags instead of cases.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: DavidP on January 03, 2009, 02:56:23 pm
I use a lightware case, it is fitted to carry the camera and extra lenses. I have the wheel attachment thing too. I have the older airline onboard size, there is a newer one that is a little smaller that will fit in overheads currently.
They are not  completely water tight but provide good protection otherwise and is easy to work out of.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: paul_jones on January 03, 2009, 03:04:44 pm
Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography
I bought a Hasselblad H2 recently. I am still waiting for it to arrive.

What case/bag do you keep your Hasselblad H in?


depends what you are doing with it. i have a soft flying case, a pelican to lug it around with all its lenses- bloody heavy tho. but the pelican is rugged and safe, and i tend to trolley it with other cases stacked, or an assist lugs it around. the other good thing about a peli, is that you open the case and all the lenses are there- easy access in a hurry. and you can stand on the case instead of needing apple cases. i use to use a peli 1550, but have recnty got a 1600 when the kit grew. you need more size than you think, as all the gaps get filled with cables, chargers and crap.

paul


Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: Alex MacPherson on January 03, 2009, 04:44:24 pm
Thanks! I will look at Pelican. I see that Hasselblad offers their pro-kit with the Pelican 1510. I will check that out
I would like a durable case that I can travel with.

Thanks again
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: ziocan on January 03, 2009, 04:47:13 pm
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Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: klane on January 03, 2009, 05:48:04 pm
Dolce, you might be best off going to your nearest dealer with a notepad and measuring dimensions of certain bags that you think will fit all of your gear AND gear you plan to accumulate in the near future. Bags can be tricky to shop for because I think most them are designed by people who have never seen what all needs to go into a gear bag.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: BJNY on January 03, 2009, 06:58:54 pm
Different circumstances dictate use of different type bags/cases.
Many I know are very happy with the offerings from www.thinktankphoto.com
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: elitegroup on January 03, 2009, 11:19:28 pm
Another option that might be considered if you intend on flying (airline carry-on compliant) or trekking out on location is the Kiboko from Gura Gear.

It can carry Medium Format & 35mm SLR gear, it's lightweight @ only 4 pounds (1.8 kg) fully configurable (extra internal dividers provided) has a true backpack harness system, with lumbar padding, proper cinch straps, and wide webbing. Full review @ http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/acce...es/kiboko.shtml (http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/kiboko.shtml)

Complete Hasselblad digital outfit

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c213/poata/01-14.jpg)

Left Hand Side:

    * Hasselblad 300mm f/4.5
    * Hasselblad 35mm f/3.5
    * Hasselblad 28mm f/4.0
    * Metz flash
    * Sekonic light meter

Righ Hand Side:

    * Hasselblad H3DII 39 + 80mm f/2.8 lens
    * Hasselblad 150mm f/3.2
    * Hasselblad 1.7x teleconverter
    * Hasselblad 50mm f/3.5
    * Hasselblad Extra battery
    * Pocket Wizard x 2
    * Hasselblad 100mm f/2.2

This is a very complete kit for a digital medium format user, and one thing to notice is that the bag has the camera with a lens attached already. With some very small moving around of dividers, one can use the bag to shoot out of with just about any lens attached and ready to go.





Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: wolfnowl on January 04, 2009, 02:40:14 am
Way back in the previous millenium when I was a teenage clerk in the camera department of department store, there was an older guy who worked there part-time and full-time as a photo tech for the Armed Forces.  He told me they had nine Hasselblads around his office.  I asked him once what he carried them in and he told me a paper grocery bag with handles, because then nobody was likely to try and take it.

So there ya go.

Depends a lot on what use, how you're traveling, where you're going...

Mike.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: paul_jones on January 04, 2009, 03:39:37 am
Quote from: elitegroup
Another option that might be considered if you intend on flying (airline carry-on compliant) or trekking out on location is the Kiboko from Gura Gear.

It can carry Medium Format & 35mm SLR gear, it's lightweight @ only 4 pounds (1.8 kg) fully configurable (extra internal dividers provided) has a true backpack harness system, with lumbar padding, proper cinch straps, and wide webbing. Full review @ http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/acce...es/kiboko.shtml (http://luminous-landscape.com/reviews/accessories/kiboko.shtml)

Complete Hasselblad digital outfit

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c213/poata/01-14.jpg)

Left Hand Side:

    * Hasselblad 300mm f/4.5
    * Hasselblad 35mm f/3.5
    * Hasselblad 28mm f/4.0
    * Metz flash
    * Sekonic light meter

Righ Hand Side:

    * Hasselblad H3DII 39 + 80mm f/2.8 lens
    * Hasselblad 150mm f/3.2
    * Hasselblad 1.7x teleconverter
    * Hasselblad 50mm f/3.5
    * Hasselblad Extra battery
    * Pocket Wizard x 2
    * Hasselblad 100mm f/2.2

This is a very complete kit for a digital medium format user, and one thing to notice is that the bag has the camera with a lens attached already. With some very small moving around of dividers, one can use the bag to shoot out of with just about any lens attached and ready to go.

here in new zealand, there is suppose to be a 7kg (or is it 14kg?) carry on bag limit. havnt you got that limit there? that is one heavy bag, it would be hard to hide the weight with that on you back.

paul

Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: elitegroup on January 04, 2009, 04:53:04 am
Quote from: paul_jones
here in new zealand, there is suppose to be a 7kg (or is it 14kg?) carry on bag limit. havnt you got that limit there? that is one heavy bag, it would be hard to hide the weight with that on you back.

paul

I took the sample set up of the H3DII system in the 'Kiboko Backpack' from the 'Gura Gear Blog' @ http://blog.guragear.com/ (http://blog.guragear.com/)

Here's an illustration of a Kiboko bag in a United Airlines carry-on template with room to spare.

(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c213/poata/kiboko_unitedair_1-1.jpg)
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: David WM on January 04, 2009, 08:46:03 am
I prefer the protection of a hard case and I use a Pelican, I think it is the 1600, the one with side clips as well as the front ones. I find it a bit on the heavy side and I am thinking of splitting the system between two 1550 cases If I expand the system so I don't end up needing a custom order walking frame which is lower on one side when I get to that stage. If you get a Pelican I'd suggest the foam partitions rather than the pluck & pull foam, which disintegrates over time and probably ends up on your sensor. I have the 35,50,80,120, 210 & the 1.4TC in my system.

David

Quote from: Dolce Moda Photography
I bought a Hasselblad H2 recently. I am still waiting for it to arrive.

What case/bag do you keep your Hasselblad H in?
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: elitegroup on January 04, 2009, 09:16:43 am
How do other photographers flying interstate/overseas prefer to transport their MF/SLR gear and laptop?

Personally I'd rather haul camera equipment as carry on luggage than check it in to be stored in a plane's cargo hold. I'd be screwed if my gear was lost, mishandled, misplaced or ended up on another flight. I can understand checking in lighting packs, stands, accessories etc. but wouldn't most photog's carry camera essentials on their person?

I'm just curious to hear how others travel and maybe there's a more efficient way?
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: jecxz on January 04, 2009, 09:39:21 am
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Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: ziocan on January 04, 2009, 12:51:10 pm
Quote from: elitegroup
How do other photographers flying interstate/overseas prefer to transport their MF/SLR gear and laptop?

Personally I'd rather haul camera equipment as carry on luggage than check it in to be stored in a plane's cargo hold. I'd be screwed if my gear was lost, mishandled, misplaced or ended up on another flight. I can understand checking in lighting packs, stands, accessories etc. but wouldn't most photog's carry camera essentials on their person?

I'm just curious to hear how others travel and maybe there's a more efficient way?
I normally carry my cameras in a pelican (1510) that fit in the carry-on template and the laptop in another laptop bag and check all the lighting. I' have been able to carry the pelican and the laptop bag always with me.  Sometime I'm able to travel with my assistant and he can carry some extra stuff. Carrying anything in the pelican case has been possible until I was using 2 dslr bodies, 4 lenses, small hd and al the other junk that come along, but if I have to travel with a MF camera +back + dslr system as backup, it will be impossible to fit everything in the 1510. If I have to travel to a remote island or location, I do not feel comfortable if I do not have 3 bodies and back up lenses.
I had lighting been delayed to the following flight twice in the past and if you are on a tight schedule that could be a problem.
I know some people that check all the bags in, including cameras. I would never do that.

In any case even if the bag fit in the carry-on template, it does not mean that they will let you carry it on board. Once I was in london flying back to NY with Virgin Atlantic (never again!), and they asked me to put my camera bag on the scale (it was a temba that fitted in the carry-on template) and they said that since it was 12kg and their limit was 7kg I had to check the bag. I explained that there was at least 20 grands worth of equipment in it but they could not care less. after speaking with 2 managers, they still wanted me to check the bag. I had to ask TSA officer intervention and he let me carry the bag with me. I had similar problem with other airlines, but they were more flexible and they let me trough without any fuss.

Since the advent of digital it has become a problem flying with all the equipment and unfortunately clients rarely pay for business or first class ticket these days or they ask to hire an assistant locally where the shoot will be held on order to save on travel expenses.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: rsmphoto on January 04, 2009, 04:42:19 pm
Hardigg iM2450 Storm Case (much like Pelican and Tundra but MUCH better latches - they're MILSPEC). Carry-on never a problem. Holds H3DII-39 plus 3 lenses, 3 spare batteries, charger, cables, filters, with room to spare. My asst. carries the backup camera case and laptop. All lights get checked in baggage - very smooth.


Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: Aurelio on January 04, 2009, 07:44:18 pm
LowePro Stealth Reporter D650AW is my choice to cary H body and up to 5 lenses, my laptop, batteries, chargers,cables etc, cost is about $150. Im sure there is a even better solution, but im very happy with this one.
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: elitegroup on January 04, 2009, 07:54:25 pm
Quote from: ziocan
I normally carry my cameras in a pelican (1510) that fit in the carry-on template and the laptop in another laptop bag and check all the lighting. I' have been able to carry the pelican and the laptop bag always with me.  Sometime I'm able to travel with my assistant and he can carry some extra stuff. Carrying anything in the pelican case has been possible until I was using 2 dslr bodies, 4 lenses, small hd and al the other junk that come along, but if I have to travel with a MF camera +back + dslr system as backup, it will be impossible to fit everything in the 1510. If I have to travel to a remote island or location, I do not feel comfortable if I do not have 3 bodies and back up lenses.
I had lighting been delayed to the following flight twice in the past and if you are on a tight schedule that could be a problem.
I know some people that check all the bags in, including cameras. I would never do that.

In any case even if the bag fit in the carry-on template, it does not mean that they will let you carry it on board. Once I was in london flying back to NY with Virgin Atlantic (never again!), and they asked me to put my camera bag on the scale (it was a temba that fitted in the carry-on template) and they said that since it was 12kg and their limit was 7kg I had to check the bag. I explained that there was at least 20 grands worth of equipment in it but they could not care less. after speaking with 2 managers, they still wanted me to check the bag. I had to ask TSA officer intervention and he let me carry the bag with me. I had similar problem with other airlines, but they were more flexible and they let me trough without any fuss.

Since the advent of digital it has become a problem flying with all the equipment and unfortunately clients rarely pay for business or first class ticket these days or they ask to hire an assistant locally where the shoot will be held on order to save on travel expenses.

Sorry to hear about the carry on weight issue  

I like Michael's approach and will give it a try if I'm ever asked to check my camera bag because of weight restrictions..................

[Quote/] "If an agent asks you to put your carry-on bag on the scale. Uh oh! It's 10 pounds over the limit.

Don't despair. What I do is simply take the heaviest body and lens and sling it over my shoulder, also putting a lens or two in a vest pocket (wearing a shooting vest when flying helps with this).

Since you're allowed to carry a camera, and the contents of your pockets and person aren't subject to weight restrictions(at least not yet), you're given a dirty look and then sent on your way. Round the corner and stop, put things back in the bag, and as the Brits say - Bob's your uncle. I have no problem doing this because enforcement of this particular rule by airline personnel seems to be both arbitrary and capricious." [End Quote]
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: elitegroup on January 04, 2009, 08:09:50 pm
One more tip, make sure you're one of the first passengers on board this will always ensure you have sufficient space to store your carry on gear in the overhead baggage compartment  

P.S. Sorry, I can't help with the smiley faces  
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: Alex MacPherson on January 04, 2009, 08:16:51 pm
Quote from: rsmphoto
Hardigg iM2450 Storm Case (much like Pelican and Tundra but MUCH better latches - they're MILSPEC). Carry-on never a problem. Holds H3DII-39 plus 3 lenses, 3 spare batteries, charger, cables, filters, with room to spare. My asst. carries the backup camera case and laptop. All lights get checked in baggage - very smooth.

Wow those Hardigg cases are very nice! I will have a look at those too!
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: ziocan on January 04, 2009, 08:39:18 pm
[quote name='elitegroup' date='Jan 4 2009, 07:54 PM' post='249467']
Sorry to hear about the carry on weight issue  

I like Michael's approach and will give it a try if I'm ever asked to check my camera bag because of weight restrictions..................

[Quote/] "If an agent asks you to put your carry-on bag on the scale. Uh oh! It's 10 pounds over the limit.

Don't despair. What I do is simply take the heaviest body and lens and sling it over my shoulder, also putting a lens or two in a vest pocket (wearing a shooting vest when flying helps with this).

Since you're allowed to carry a camera, and the contents of your pockets and person aren't subject to weight restrictions (at least not yet), you're given a dirty look and then sent on your way. Round the corner and stop, put things back in the bag, and as the Brits say - Bob's your uncle. I have no problem doing this because enforcement of this particular rule by airline personnel seems to be both arbitrary and capricious." [End Quote]

Michael tip is very good and on order of using it if necessary, I will have at least one body with the neck strap on.
On my episode with Virgin Atlantic, even michael trick it would had not worked either, since I was 6 or 5 kilos over weight for their standard.
After that episode, I always check the weight restrictions of the airline. It is quite a shame that Virgin Atlantic, which is not a budget airline and supposed to be stylish cool and what ever...., has weight limits of 6 kilos for carry on, while other airlines like Air France, Delta, Singapore etc ( even Alitalia) which are on similar fares, do have a limit of 12 kg.

Another thing I do now, is telling my clients before they do the flight booking, that I need to carry with me 12 kilos of cameras and junk. A couple of times they booked me business or first class ticket.

Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: paul_jones on January 04, 2009, 10:16:39 pm
Quote from: ziocan
I normally carry my cameras in a pelican (1510) that fit in the carry-on template and the laptop in another laptop bag and check all the lighting. I' have been able to carry the pelican and the laptop bag always with me.  Sometime I'm able to travel with my assistant and he can carry some extra stuff. Carrying anything in the pelican case has been possible until I was using 2 dslr bodies, 4 lenses, small hd and al the other junk that come along, but if I have to travel with a MF camera +back + dslr system as backup, it will be impossible to fit everything in the 1510. If I have to travel to a remote island or location, I do not feel comfortable if I do not have 3 bodies and back up lenses.
I had lighting been delayed to the following flight twice in the past and if you are on a tight schedule that could be a problem.
I know some people that check all the bags in, including cameras. I would never do that.

In any case even if the bag fit in the carry-on template, it does not mean that they will let you carry it on board. Once I was in london flying back to NY with Virgin Atlantic (never again!), and they asked me to put my camera bag on the scale (it was a temba that fitted in the carry-on template) and they said that since it was 12kg and their limit was 7kg I had to check the bag. I explained that there was at least 20 grands worth of equipment in it but they could not care less. after speaking with 2 managers, they still wanted me to check the bag. I had to ask TSA officer intervention and he let me carry the bag with me. I had similar problem with other airlines, but they were more flexible and they let me trough without any fuss.

Since the advent of digital it has become a problem flying with all the equipment and unfortunately clients rarely pay for business or first class ticket these days or they ask to hire an assistant locally where the shoot will be held on order to save on travel expenses.

a friend of mine who shoots and flys around a lot, he has got around the weight but filling his pockets with lenses, and having a cam around his neck. but he has contax, and thats quite a bit smaller. i cant imagine walking to check in with a h1 and zoom around my neck.

i do fly quite a bit with more than 7kgs, you just have be tough and make it look light when you go past the security guy!

paul
Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: ziocan on January 05, 2009, 01:36:23 am
Quote from: paul_jones
a friend of mine who shoots and flys around a lot, he has got around the weight but filling his pockets with lenses, and having a cam around his neck. but he has contax, and thats quite a bit smaller. i cant imagine walking to check in with a h1 and zoom around my neck.

i do fly quite a bit with more than 7kgs, you just have be tough and make it look light when you go past the security guy!

paul
I have been doing that for about 20 years without problems. The Virgin Atlantic bitcx at the check in just asked me to put the bag on the scale. At the end after speaking with 2 managers, I was able to talk with the Security guy and he allowed me on board with the bag.
Traveling with more than 7 kilos is generally not a problem and there is no need of many tricks, since most of the airlines have a 12kg. limit.

Title: Hasselblad H question
Post by: terence_patrick on January 05, 2009, 04:18:54 pm
I travel with my gear in a Tamrac 691 rolling case used as the carry-on. Fully loaded, it has passed most airlines I've traveled on in the US and Europe. I have one that carries my Canon kit and another that used to carry my Mamiya gear, but is now loaded with Contax.