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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: sperera on November 29, 2008, 07:43:28 pm

Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: sperera on November 29, 2008, 07:43:28 pm
Been looking for prices on Hasselblads and came across this company on the internet with great prices for Hasselblads....I was wondering whether these are reputable or not....its a company called Unicatalog and they're in Jakarta, Indonesia...
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: vandevanterSH on November 29, 2008, 08:05:21 pm
Quote from: sperera
Been looking for prices on Hasselblads and came across this company on the internet with great prices for Hasselblads....I was wondering whether these are reputable or not....its a company called Unicatalog and they're in Jakarta, Indonesia...
If it's too good to be true..yada..yada..One obvious error in the specs..the H3D II system can't shoot film.

Steve
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: hs0zfe on November 30, 2008, 12:39:34 am
I won mint Fuji GX 680 lenses and gear on eBay UK. Seller won't honor a single of his ended auctions. When the prices are too low, the deals are too good, don't waste your time.
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: rethmeier on November 30, 2008, 02:04:45 am
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Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Dustbak on November 30, 2008, 02:59:24 am
Why don't you email Hasselblad and ask them? They should be able to tell you whether you are dealing with one of their dealers or not.
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: sperera on November 30, 2008, 04:20:06 am
Quote from: rethmeier
I had a quick look at their site and I can't see what the problem is?
.............was wondering if anyone had bought anything from these people...they have customer statements on their site etc.....Hasselblad will obviously NOT recognise them i would say and give you the official line of dealers etc.....but the world moves in many ways as we know.....interesting to check out for sure.....
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: elitegroup on November 30, 2008, 05:11:50 am
I just joined and created a members account, I then added an item to my basket and couldn't find a shipping price to Australia.

Within a few moments the 'live chat box' popped up so I asked support the shipping estimate to OZ. The reply was there is a problem with the software being able to generate a shipping estimate currently but staff will be able to give a quote on Monday during working hours.

It looks OK but I'd rather wait till I know this site is legit or not
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Dustbak on November 30, 2008, 05:41:30 am
Quote from: sperera
.............was wondering if anyone had bought anything from these people...they have customer statements on their site etc.....Hasselblad will obviously NOT recognise them i would say and give you the official line of dealers etc.....but the world moves in many ways as we know.....interesting to check out for sure.....


What do you mean Hasselblad will obviously NOT recognize them? This in itself would be really strange. How would they get their stock or how would they assist you when problems arise if they could not deal with Hasselblad.

Now, I know Hasselblad will certainly help you directly if you have Hasselblad equipment but for any party to be able to sell quantities at a regular pace you need a steady supply which is pretty hard if you cannot get the equipment officially. It makes it very unbelievable when the also offer equipment way below regular dealer prices which are already pretty low at this moment.

My take on this; I would certainly not put my trust in these people. If it sounds too good to be true it probably is. The fact that people immediately respond doesn't make it trustworthier. You would not believe to what lengths people go to rip others off.

Having people on the other side of the node, putting up 'customer' recommendations as well as a website (which BTW is not updated very often looking at the Jun/Jul/Aug 08 offers) are all things that are pretty easily done.
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Chris Livsey on November 30, 2008, 08:01:50 am
http://www.hasselblad.co.uk/partner-locator.aspx (http://www.hasselblad.co.uk/partner-locator.aspx)

Under Indonesia displays a blank page ?
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: gwhitf on November 30, 2008, 10:55:20 am
Bottom of their webpage clearly states that they are NOT an authorized dealer for many of the brands represented, including Hasselblad.

I can't imagine anyone in their right mind sending eleven thousand dollars to ANYONE in Indonesia. Just google "ebay and indonesia" and that's all the evidence you need.
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: amsp on November 30, 2008, 11:49:02 am
Like gwhitf said, indonesia is pretty infamous for all sorts of fraud and scams, so at least be very careful dealing with them.

Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: mcfoto on November 30, 2008, 06:13:47 pm
http://unicatalog.com/ (http://unicatalog.com/)

They have the 1dsMKIII listed for $3382.29 USD!...................? Sounds to good to be true.
Denis
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Jonathan H on November 30, 2008, 08:19:52 pm
Run... run away, very quickly, don't even turn around.  

Send your $3300 over there and the only thing you'll receive is the philosophical realization that a fool and his money are soon parting.
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: pixjohn on November 30, 2008, 08:57:41 pm
I am not sure they even take credit card, that would also be a tip off!

They have lots of Leaf Items lets ask YaYa?


YaYa, is this a real Leaf Dealer?
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: klane on November 30, 2008, 09:41:31 pm
Indonesia has the internet... who knew?

But seriously do not even think about it.
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: thsinar on December 01, 2008, 12:35:44 am
If I can make a suggestion: don't buy from them. Indonesia is famous for such frauds and are very well organized to lure you into believing that what you see is true.

Best regards,
Thierry
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Paul_Claesson_HasselbladUS on December 01, 2008, 11:49:58 am
Quote from: sperera
Been looking for prices on Hasselblads and came across this company on the internet with great prices for Hasselblads....I was wondering whether these are reputable or not....its a company called Unicatalog and they're in Jakarta, Indonesia...

This is our Hasselblad Partner in Indonesia:

Oktagon
Gunung Sahari Raya 50A
10610  Jakarta
Phone: +62 21 4204545
Email: oktagon@oktagon.co.id
Web: www.oktagon.co.id

Paul Claesson
Hasselblad USA
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: David Grover / Capture One on December 01, 2008, 11:50:48 am
In answer to the original question...

No!

Our partner which Paul mentions above has no knowledge of the dealer existing in Indonesia.

Best,


David


Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Paul_Claesson_HasselbladUS on December 01, 2008, 11:55:41 am
Quote from: Chris Livsey
http://www.hasselblad.co.uk/partner-locator.aspx (http://www.hasselblad.co.uk/partner-locator.aspx)

Under Indonesia displays a blank page ?

Hi Chris,

You need to check www.hasselblad.com (http://www.hasselbladusa.com/about-hasselblad/partner-locator.aspx) global website for our partners worldwide.

Paul Claesson
Hasselblad USA
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Chris Livsey on December 01, 2008, 06:21:55 pm
Quote from: Paul_Claesson_HasselbladUS
Hi Chris,

You need to check www.hasselblad.com (http://www.hasselbladusa.com/about-hasselblad/partner-locator.aspx) global website for our partners worldwide.

Paul Claesson
Hasselblad USA

Lebanon, Slovenia and Croatia worked though, just random examples, so why blank on Indonesia ?
This comes back blank as well http://www.hasselbladusa.com/about-hasselb.../indonesia.aspx (http://www.hasselbladusa.com/about-hasselblad/partner-locator/asia-pacific/indonesia.aspx) and is the page I get if I click your link.
Just curious and thanks for the reply.

BTW manually entering Hasselbald.com  brings up my uk site, obviously does a domain search.

Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Kristian Tjong on December 01, 2008, 11:56:19 pm
Quote from: amsp
Like gwhitf said, indonesia is pretty infamous for all sorts of fraud and scams, so at least be very careful dealing with them.
Yes, unfortunately, we are famous for that. I live in Jakarta, Indonesia. Actually, if you find a deal that are too good to be true in ANY part of the world, you should be careful.
The person that is in charge of the Hassy products at OKTAGON is Mr. EKO. As a matter of fact, I just did a comparison of my PhaseOne P25+ mounted on a PhaseOne Camera, along with Aptus 22M (forgot the type) mounted on a H1 , and also a H3DII-39. Some interesting result indeed from the test.
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: Adina on December 02, 2008, 03:43:15 am
Hi,

yes the Inonesia Page on Hasselbladusa is emty, look at:

http://www.hasselblad.com/about-hasselblad.../indonesia.aspx (http://www.hasselblad.com/about-hasselblad/partner-locator/asia-pacific/indonesia.aspx)

!!!

Greetings
Adina
Title: Are these people for real??
Post by: yaya on December 02, 2008, 05:33:01 am
Quote from: pixjohn
I am not sure they even take credit card, that would also be a tip off!

They have lots of Leaf Items lets ask YaYa?


YaYa, is this a real Leaf Dealer?


We do not know them

Yair