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Equipment & Techniques => Landscape & Nature Photography => Topic started by: Fluid1959 on January 17, 2004, 10:52:03 pm

Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 17, 2004, 10:52:03 pm
It's my contention that these  big rocks behind dirt mounds would be clearly lying in the open and that the fact that they look half buried is an illusion caused by nasa edits .. the dirt mounds don't exist....therefore these rocks should appear to lie on top ofthe ground or above the surface.

It's also my prediction at this early stage in the mission that these rocks will never get any clearer than they are now
call me zolof


(http://www.longislandlan.com/2ndcrop.jpg)


(http://www.longislandlan.com/2ndcropa.jpg)

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05049.tif (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05049.tif)
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: pmkierst on January 18, 2004, 07:23:32 pm
Well, since they are composite images, they are without question edited. Otherwise they would be quite a bad mess. Obviously the editing is less then perfect. However, compositing a perfect outcome would probably involve some invention of data, which would make the accusations even worse.

Outside of all that, let us say that the editing has indeed make some rocks look half buried when they are actually lying on the surface. Ok, so what? I don't get your point. It doesn't prove it is intentional, nor does it prove that anything mysterious is going on.

In short, even if what you say is true, what is your point? Having a long argument about "truth" is pointless if even a correct verifiable answer yields no information of value.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: pmkierst on January 21, 2004, 11:24:33 am
OK, I will play for a moment.

First off, you don't seem to understand how these pictures are taken. Many images, with the camera pointing in different directions, are taken and then the mosaic of images are joined together to make a whole. This is often called stitching. It is used to take a relative low resolution camera and generate high resolution images and also increases the field of view. NASA uses this technique as the camera on the rover is quite wimpy. They do not deny this. Joining the images together is fairly difficult and requires considerable editing. If you are really good, you can do this seamlessly; however doing so requires editing the photo quite a lot and is not good for scientific purposes, only aesthetic ones. So they leave it quite rough. If they wished to edit the photos in order to dupe someone, a high school student could do a much better job then you see here. A reasonably competent person could modify these pictures well enough that no amount of examination by you could spot them. Even a person highly trained in looking for photo manipulation could have considerable difficultly. So your evidence of editing does not conclude anything.

Secondly, your items are highly questionable. Even you must realize that. Ever seen animal shapes in the clouds? Try this: Go to a rocky desert location. carefully verify what is in the location. Now take some pictures of it. Actually, better that a trusted friend does that step. Now, take the pictures home and examine carefully; you will find all sorts of interesting shapes and items. Our perceptive processes find patterns in all sorts of interesting ways. You should try reading up up on human perception to understand what you are seeing; this would enable you to better assess such things.

The fact you are not getting any support is because none of us see what you are seeing. That makes you either one of the enlightened few or wrong. Personally, I always get suspicious of myself when I start believing I am one of the enlightened few.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Hank on January 21, 2004, 05:14:45 pm
After carefully reviewing your photos, I find you missed an important piece of evidence, Fluid.  In the final image, there's a telling clue on the edge of the landing platform visible along the lower margin of the photo, immediately adjacent to the largest stone.  That's obviously a bare female breast, nipple and all-  clear evidence that the mission was not robotic, and that the female astronaut perished in the landing.

I grieve for her family and friends in their time of loss.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: David Mantripp on January 23, 2004, 04:04:14 am
so, if THEY have so much to cover up, why did they release any pictures ?

Why not just PRETEND that the ROVr isnt WORKING any more ?  If THAT happened then may be you're right!!!

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won't say what this looks like they will lock me up!

Well you're already in DEEP trouble I reckun. Heard of IP tracing ? Post only from public terminals and make it SHORT!
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 24, 2004, 05:22:21 am
Mud Patch revisited

You tell me ?

(http://www.longislandlan.com/mudpatch.jpg)

(http://www.longislandlan.com/mudpatch3.jpg)

(http://www.longislandlan.com/mudpatchrevisited.jpg)

(http://www.longislandlan.com/mudpatch2.jpg)





Possible living snake !

(http://www.longislandlan.com/snake.jpg)
(http://www.longislandlan.com/snake2.jpg)
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 16, 2004, 04:43:42 pm
It's my contention that these  big rocks behind dirt mounds would be clearly lying in the open and that the fact that they look half buried is an illusion caused by nasa edits .. the dirt mounds don't exist....therefore these rocks should appear to lie on top of the ground or above the surface.

It's also my prediction at this early stage in the mission that these rocks will never get any clearer than they are now
call me zolof


(http://www.longislandlan.com/2ndcrop.jpg)


(http://www.longislandlan.com/2ndcropa.jpg)

If you dont download the 38.5 mb tiff your wasting your time!
this is what tif pia04995 looks like  as a whole the interest is up in left hand corner lets zoom
(http://www.longislandlan.com/lr.jpg)

Whats has happened here ?  This piece was added I hilighted the crop
(http://www.longislandlan.com/hilighted.jpg)

Here's the unedited

(http://www.longislandlan.com/croponly.jpg)

Do you think I have a case that it was edited ?
Thanks for any kind input .....

The following is a link to 38.5 mb tif

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA04995.tif
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 18, 2004, 12:02:47 am
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I see your both rude and vision impaired. And neither are requirements for this thread!
I've been a contributor to this board for about a year, and if you look at the content of my postings, I've been reasonably patient with people asking silly and even stupid questions that were actually on-topic for this forum; i.e. landscape photography, digital photographic technology, color management, etc. That is what this site is about, not X-files alien conspiracy theories, which is all you have managed to contribute here so far. There are numerous fora on the internet devoted to such topics; Art Bell's site (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/) would be a good place to start. It would be greatly appreciated if you took your alien conspiracy silliness elsewhere.

BTW, the ability to spell words correctly is a great asset when attempting to establish one's credibility. It's "identical", not "identicle".
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Bobtrips on January 18, 2004, 07:21:42 pm
Digi -

I can't quite say that I understand the original post.  But it was a question about a landscape ...  ;o)

I can say that I feel that Jonathan's replies were less than polite.  Read back and see if you might have been less than happy if the replies to Fluid were aimed at you.

In fact I think many of us would have told Jonathon to stuff it after his first post.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 23, 2004, 02:56:36 am
Mars appears to have very strange geology and rock formation
There are more anomolies here but they have been painted out
(http://www.longislandlan.com/next3.jpg)


I won't say what this looks like they will lock me up!
ok  it looks like a garden jockey.
Also notice the pipe runing past the jockey to as far as we can see.
(http://www.longislandlan.com/next10.jpg)

(http://www.longislandlan.com/next9.jpg)

Feel free to count his 5 toes or his five fingers of his left hand!
This poor guy lost half his head which is 1 foot over to left.
This image has bodies in about every square inch. the objects you see and
in between them is the objects you don't.

(http://www.longislandlan.com/resting.jpg)

If you can see the bones in this light photo you can imagine how many bodies  are here and painted out.
(http://www.longislandlan.com/6.jpg)
Too me it appears to be a human baby's face but slightly broken like fossilised rock.

(http://www.longislandlan.com/5.jpg)
This is without a doubt an arm with a square implant under skin  and insignia
Pardon Nasa but they didnt paint it out just seperated the fingers and painted it so it look like it went down.
(http://www.longislandlan.com/gripofdeath.jpg)
Every square inch of this image has anomalies the ones you see and the spaces in between are the ones you don't.

(http://www.longislandlan.com/1.jpg)
This Picture also every square inch of this image has anomalies the ones you see and the spaces in between are the ones you don't.
(http://www.longislandlan.com/alienbattle.jpg)
All above from tif below
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05102.tif (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05102.tif)
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05117.tif (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05117.tif)
I consider New TIF to be quite Interesting, to say the least.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Hank on January 21, 2004, 04:37:29 pm
Without impuning you, I'm not following your assertions or how your examples and photoshop work support your points.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: on January 24, 2004, 07:11:30 am
OK, that's enough.

The only way I'll let this thread continue is if someone has some really good jokes to add.

Fluid - please remember to take your meds every day.

Michael
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: b.e.wilson on January 17, 2004, 12:38:04 am
Okay, I downloaded the big tiff, and found the right-hand side view mirror from my 1997 Gray Saturn that went missing a couple years ago! Thanks for finding it for me. You wouldn't mind fetching it for me, would you?

I looked at the original image and can find nothing odd in the area you indicate. There are, however, some very poor image blends in other locations. JPL could clearly use some help from this guy (http://www.tawbaware.com/maxlyons/index.html) who knows how to put together multiple images.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Digi-T on January 18, 2004, 05:56:08 pm
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So sorry professor.
I wasn't under thee impression that people get sucked into a thread, but had a choice in the matter.

And thank you in advance for the angelic job you have done for over a year with the idiots who peruse this forum.

Where better to seek the photgraphic truth but here ?
Even if your theory is true (and I don't rule anything out) this is not the proper forum for it and your methods of displaying your "evidence" is vey poor, not to mention your attitude. Calling every user here an idiot is not a very smart way to make friends and make your point. If you have something appropriate to contribute to these forums and can do it in a civil manner then we might take you seriously, otherwise you might wish to go find another forum.

T
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: BJL on January 20, 2004, 09:21:03 am
Just on the topic of the "chunky" way that NASA edits together the individual frames from the rover; while the aesthetics of landscape photography might dictate using some smoothing at the joins, the interests of providing untainted raw data for scientific analysis probably dictates that they not do so. Ironically, the problem with the rover photo is probably that it has NOT been edited as much as we would usually expect of a panoramic composite.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: mcanyes on January 21, 2004, 09:34:18 am
Thanks guys! You should do this more often. It took me away from the endless election coverage for a few minutes.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 22, 2004, 02:35:51 pm
I appoligize for my lack of photshop skills as I have only photshop'd
sorta since the rover landed I slide the little lever over till it looks
good. But the pro's do it scientifically and many of these photo's once enhanced by the likes of keith Laney of KeithLaney.com  and others
like him they will be even clearer.

Most of these Tif's are fiction created by NASA...But don't take my word for it!
Do your own homework. Cheap LCD monitors wont cut it for seeing detail.

The word edit equals alter, paintover pasteover clipout
hide from view disguise etc,  but applying seams of the mosaic is altogether a different subject.
  
These arrows indicate types of areas to look for edits .
Any area that has a darker or lighter color is an edit
Any area that appears like a dirt mound is an edit
Any time an object looks half covered with dust ..it's an edit
(http://www.longislandlan.com/how.jpg)

Example of NASA editing

This first Image shows the white patch im looking at.

(http://www.longislandlan.com/main.jpg)
This is a closeup untouched
(http://www.longislandlan.com/b.jpg)
This shows same patch with color and brightness/contrast enhancements "only"

(http://www.longislandlan.com/a.jpg)

Location of finds

(http://www.longislandlan.com/mainpia5117.jpg)

Appears to be a strange rock holding a weapon

(http://www.longislandlan.com/next1.jpg)
Again no editing I used lasso to outline it and clip image
(http://www.longislandlan.com/next7.jpg)

Appears rover Lost an arm !

(http://www.longislandlan.com/next2.jpg)



It Appears Rover Landed on a small  toy robot by size estimization!  It has eyes ears nose and hair  as well as 2 metal brackets with holes for a neck   It's on the far left side of this photo. The photo is busy and there are many anomalies here but focus on left . it's body is under the lander
(http://www.longislandlan.com/next8.jpg)

I added more to my last post
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Scott_H on January 24, 2004, 09:34:47 am
The assumption seems to be that NASA is editing the photos.

I think that overlooks the disturbing possibility that the martians are intercepting the signal, and editing the photos before they are transmitted to Earth.

The 'software difficulties' the rover is now reported to be experiencing may be a result of martian tampering.

Someone is obviously covering something up, but I think assuming it's NASA may be overlooking a far more disturbing possibility.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Marshal on January 17, 2004, 10:42:54 pm
Here's the latest high-res photo from the Spirit Rover showing proof of Life on Mars:  

http://www.cinecon.com/forums/attachment.p...p;postid=170469 (http://www.cinecon.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=170469)
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 18, 2004, 02:52:12 am
So sorry professor.
I wasn't under thee impression that people get sucked into a thread, but had a choice in the matter.

And thank you in advance for the angelic job you have done for over a year with the idiots who peruse this forum.

Where better to seek the photgraphic truth but here ?
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 17, 2004, 02:33:19 am
If you find this type of chatter offensive I appoligize,, but I'm only interested in the truth.... Not just what others may perceive as the truth, or for that matter what others may feel I perceive to be true.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 21, 2004, 10:14:55 am
First I would like to say. I take the stand that the scientist at NASA are

victims as well.

Secondly I don't feel I'm being supported here with my findings.

Third I have been deeply affected by what I found (material not suitable for

children)


(http://www.longislandlan.com/barren.jpg)

Pretty Barren if ya ask me!

But I did find a few things of interest Like a few more edits here and there!

(http://www.longislandlan.com/where.jpg)


Most of this Tif is fiction created by NASA...But don't take my word for it

These arrows indicate types of areas to look for edits .
Any area that has a darker or lighter color is an edit
Any area that appears like a dirt mound is an edit
Any time an object looks half covered with dust ..it's an edit

(http://www.longislandlan.com/how.jpg)

Put your saftey belts on and your trays in the upright position and prepare,

for we are now leaving KANSAS

(http://www.longislandlan.com/resting.jpg)
(http://www.longislandlan.com/6.jpg)
(http://www.longislandlan.com/5.jpg)
(http://www.longislandlan.com/gripofdeath.jpg)
(http://www.longislandlan.com/1.jpg)
(http://www.longislandlan.com/7.jpg)
(http://www.longislandlan.com/alienbattle.jpg)

http://www.longislandlan.com/alienbattle.tif (http://www.longislandlan.com/alienbattle.tif)

I didnt even display any structures.

All above from tif below

20.6 mb TIF

http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05102.tif (http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/tiff/PIA05102.tif)

I will now go back to previous tifs now that I know what I,m Looking for..



I consider New TIF to be quite Interesting, to say the least.

Welcome to the real world
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 18, 2004, 07:31:09 pm
I went back to read my posts to see where my attitude might be causing a problem. I presented a digital panaroramic Landscape photograph taken of the mars surface, And only asked that people with better understanding of digital photgraphy help to enlighten  me.

Maybe I was wrong in my assessment of this forum. But I assumed
If these photo's were edited the people sharing this forum might have some insight. But I guess that was just a leap. Because no one here knows anything about digital landscape photgraphy.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: David Mantripp on January 19, 2004, 08:59:55 am
Hey, I cloned a power line pylon out of a shot yesterday!  That must PROVE their is INTELLIGUNT LIFE  in Switzerland and that the PIGS are Cuvering it up to protect the Rosicrushans at the Woerld Economic Forum!!!!!  Weeeee-ooooooweeeeeeeee!!!!!!!
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: b.e.wilson on January 20, 2004, 05:10:44 pm
Fluid,

I thought you said you weren't going to post here anymore.

The second, seemingly 'right-ward' shadow is the left-ward shadow of a second rock abbutting the large rock in front and to the right. Rather obvious, really. I'm curious why this didn't occur to you?

Time for this thread to die.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: mbridgers on January 21, 2004, 01:06:25 pm
I guess the rover is using Wi-Fi at the Starbucks to transmit the pictures back.  

If it were southern Mars, there'd be a Waffle House there too!
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Howard Smith on January 21, 2004, 06:11:47 pm
Amen Hank.  But is it art?  Or did we spend a few hundred million on junk?  Or maybe there was life on Mars.  Or is life on Mars.  Maye that's what the Masai were talking about.  I have no clue.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 22, 2004, 07:00:16 pm
I haven't laughed so much since watching the first episode of South Park and saw the 50-foot satellite dish unfold from Cartman's umm, hindquarters.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Hank on January 24, 2004, 10:48:46 am
It's really as basic as ham and eggs:  All in a day's work for the chicken, but a lifetime commitment for the pig.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Hank on January 23, 2004, 04:34:51 pm
I'm really not all that surprised either, given the belt tightening that has been going on at NASA.  In space, a $100 million venture is only as sound as the cheapest onboard part.  That explains some of the high costs involved-  Your whole mission can fail if a 50 cent connector tanks, so spend as much as it takes to get the best from top to bottom.  Lots of multi-million dollar junk heaps floating in space as monuments to low-bid contracting.  Hope that isn't the case this time, but there are lots of precedents.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: 61Dynamic on January 24, 2004, 03:36:53 pm
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for we are now leaving KANSAS

You've left Kansas lonnng ago...

LOL, this is rich
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 17, 2004, 10:55:15 am
Dude, you've been smoking some interesting stuff. Yes, all these images are "edited"; they are composites of images from the twin 1 megapixel camera array on the rover poorly blended together with some noticeable lines and seams. As for the tracks, I would think it should be pretty obvious that they were made by the rover itself, unless you are seriously proposing that life on mars includes cog wheels. Sell your tinfoil hat and use the proceeds to buy a clue.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 19, 2004, 12:13:51 am
Perhaps I was a little curt with Fluid, but here is why:

1. Fluid's original post (which has since been edited to remove the comments) mentioned seeing tracks in a 3-D NASA image which was linked to in the post, with the not-so-subtle implication that the tracks were made by a lifeform and that the edits were probably an attempt to disguise the tracks and/or cover up evidence of alien life on Mars. Hence my (admittedly rather snide) comments about alien conspiracy theories and cog wheel life forms.

2. Fluid then posts a "scientific analysis" of the image claiming that variations in average luminosity of different parts of the image is "astounding" and somehow meaningful. Never mind the fact that this is true of all images that are not a single solid color. The only thing "astounding" about the analysis is the expectation on Fluid's part that it has any relevance to anything.

3. Fluid's original question/theory completely overlooked the blatantly obvious fact that the image(s) in question are stitched composites from the rover's twin 1 megapixel cameras, and the seams are not blended together very well. This does not constitute a "smoking gun" proving any kind of NASA cover-up.

Since this forum is about landscape photography (with a heavy emphasis on digital) and not NASA cover-ups regarding the existence of alien life (which isn't supported by the evidence presented anyway), I took the liberty of concluding that Fluid is/was a crackpot with a NASA conspiracy theory agenda. I don't believe that is an unreasonable conclusion to draw from the original version of Fluid's postings, and I wasn't very tactful about saying so. I apologize for my lack of tact.

Some parting thoughts (and I'll try to be as tactful as possible):

1. Claiming alien conspiracies/cover-ups is a good way to get dismissed as a crackpot in most venues populated by rational, reasonable people who understand the principles of logic, especially when the evidence offered to support such claims does no such thing.

2. The images in question are stitched composites, most likely assembled by low-level civil service people in NASA who have a lot of more important things to do than stitch together PR images for the press and the public and don't have the luxury of polishing each finished image into a masterwork of perfection.

3. Posting meaningless analyses and claiming they are scientific is not an effective means to bolster one's credibility. Especially when one is claiming the analyses are evidence proving the existence of alien life is being covered up.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 20, 2004, 06:37:34 pm
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Let me get out of here before some of you start thinking for yourselfs.. Called remove head from butt technique.. De-Wienke manuever....
From you, I will accept that as a great compliment.

"Proud to be a charter member of the half-vast right-wing conspiracy..."
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: on January 22, 2004, 05:29:31 pm
I thought about deleting it, but there's so little humour about these days that I thought I'd leave it up for a while.

We need a good whacho conspiracy theory every now and then.

Michael
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jeff Donald on January 23, 2004, 06:52:54 am
Opps, NASA has lost contact with Rover overnight.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Paul Sumi on January 24, 2004, 12:13:03 pm
Sir Arthur Stanley Eddington, the famed English astronomer, said, "Not only is the universe stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we can imagine."

However, I am positive that is NOT the case here.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 17, 2004, 03:12:16 pm
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Dude, you've been smoking some interesting stuff. Yes, all these images are "edited"; they are composites of images from the twin 1 megapixel camera array on the rover poorly blended together with some noticeable lines and seams. As for the tracks, I would think it should be pretty obvious that they were made by the rover itself, unless you are seriously proposing that life on mars includes cog wheels. Sell your tinfoil hat and use the proceeds to buy a clue.
I see your both rude and vision impaired. And neither are requirements for this thread!
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Digi-T on January 18, 2004, 11:18:31 pm
I guess I just don't like being labeled an idiot who peruses these forums. Name calling simply won't get you very far. It also appeared to be a topic more about conspiracy and government cover ups than anything else. Then you insult us again by saying that nobody here knows anything about digital landcape photography. These exchanges happen on here from time to time and usually because we take things too personally. You don't need to go away but you should keep your insults to a minimum.

T
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: pmkierst on January 20, 2004, 10:28:03 pm
####, I am still looking for intelligent life on earth. Find me some evidence of that before we go looking at mars photos...
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: mbridgers on January 22, 2004, 03:21:28 pm
Can't we delete this thread already?
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 23, 2004, 01:00:12 pm
The only "anomaly" I see in the bottom image is a big "W" in the middle of the image, rotated to the left some. I think we're overlooking the obvious here...can't see the letters for all the alien body parts.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: David Mantripp on January 24, 2004, 01:35:00 pm
I hope it isn't stranger than Fluid1959 can imagine...
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Paul Sumi on January 26, 2004, 12:39:58 pm
Now that the Mars rover Opportunity has made a safe landing, I guess we can look forward to more offerings from Mulder, I mean, Fluid?

 
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 17, 2004, 06:44:04 pm
Let me try the scientific approach

(http://www.longislandlan.com/lumin2.jpg)

The data is even more astounding using smaller samples.
when measuring from left to right across the screen and edit
while avoiding rocks.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 18, 2004, 07:33:33 pm
I will not post here anymore, I appoligize for any inconvience I have caused.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Fluid1959 on January 20, 2004, 03:17:34 pm
(http://www.longislandlan.com/wow.jpg)


Some photo experts lol - maybe crayons are more your style

(http://www.longislandlan.com/2itemstopb.jpg)


New Mars express photo

(http://www.longislandlan.com/pyramid2.jpg)

image from www.space.com

Sorry for the attitude .. majority  = morons

Dont mention conspiracy or Intelligent life on mars . Or NASA is lying.

Cause that is just plain nonsense

Let me get out of here before some of you start thinking for yourselfs.. Called remove head from butt technique.. De-Wienke manuever....
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Jonathan Wienke on January 21, 2004, 12:26:30 pm
ROTFLMAO!

Quote
Any area that has a darker or lighter color is an edit
Any area that appears like a dirt mound is an edit
Any time an object looks half covered with dust ..it's an edit

So you seriously expect us to believe that there are no dirt mounds or dust covered objects on Mars? Frankly I'm surprised you aren't claiming that the whole Mars mission is being faked and that the images are really from some sandbox set located in Area 51. Now there's a conspiracy theory for you, you can use it all you want as long as you give me credit for the idea...and if anyone offers you the movie rights, I get 35%.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: joedevico on January 22, 2004, 08:36:57 pm
I can't wait for the next video journal installment to see what lens/camera combination Michael will use on location on Mars to capture the "real" luminous landscape. Talk about fine red dust covering your sensor.   ::
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: BJL on January 23, 2004, 03:19:24 pm
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Opps, NASA has lost contact with Rover overnight.
As I expected; it was only a matter of time before the Martians stole that cool 1MP digicam.
Title: Need expert advice ? Mars Rover Photo's
Post by: Rainer SLP on January 25, 2004, 11:03:44 pm
Here is one of the reasons why NASA has to edit the Mars photographies:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_astro/message/40817 (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/digital_astro/message/40817)

or here http://www.pbase.com/image/25446978/large (http://www.pbase.com/image/25446978/large)

regards Rainer