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Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Yoram from Berlin on July 12, 2008, 08:50:26 am
Hi all.

This may sound like a complaint... and to a degree, it is. I lodge it carefully, as I am new here, and very happy to have found this community.

But what is up with the Forum's default color scheme and logo? We're photographers, many here extremely skilled, and we spend so much of our time thinking in terms of aesthetics... Yet there isn't even a nice Luminous Landscape log in place of the default logo?

I don't know how to customize forum skins or any of that, so I'm not offering a solution. I just thought I'd make some waves. I guess I can ask around about creating forum skins and all that...

Oh well, have a good weekend.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: wolfnowl on July 12, 2008, 10:18:53 am
I've always been more interested in the content than the colours...  YMMV!

Mike.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: KeithR on July 12, 2008, 10:55:17 am
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Hi all.

This may sound like a complaint... and to a degree, it is. I lodge it carefully, as I am new here, and very happy to have found this community.

But what is up with the Forum's default color scheme and logo? We're photographers, many here extremely skilled, and we spend so much of our time thinking in terms of aesthetics... Yet there isn't even a nice Luminous Landscape log in place of the default logo?

I don't know how to customize forum skins or any of that, so I'm not offering a solution. I just thought I'd make some waves. I guess I can ask around about creating forum skins and all that...

Oh well, have a good weekend.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=207579\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Are you more interested in the image or the frame...?
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Yoram from Berlin on July 12, 2008, 10:58:34 am
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Are you more interested in the image or the frame...?
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LOL, ok. But in fairness, all great work benefits from a great frame.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Schewe on July 12, 2008, 01:41:23 pm
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... I am new here, and very happy to have found this community.
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I just thought I'd make some waves.

So, when you go over to a friends house, do you complain about his decorating scheme or when he gives you a ride in his car, do you complain about the suspension?

You might want to spend a bit of time getting acquainted before us our their breath stinks, ya know?  If it's waves ya want bud...there's plenty of people happy to make them for ya.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Yoram from Berlin on July 12, 2008, 02:32:54 pm
Get over yourself. I meant it tongue-in-cheek, I don't actually care too much about what the logo looks like.

I may be new here, but this isn't the first forum I'm a member of. Obviously, all forums seems to have a few members that need smileys in order to parse the difference between light-hearted comments and true complaining.

I'm staying, I'll be seeing you around here.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Richowens on July 12, 2008, 02:40:06 pm
The LL forum is like an old sneaker, not the latest fashion, a little tattered around the edges, and occasionally stinky, but it certainly is comfortable and useful.

 The asset here is not what it looks like but the people and their accumulated knowledge.

 If it ain't broke, don't mess with it.

 Rich
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: James R Russell on July 12, 2008, 03:12:31 pm
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So, when you go over to a friends house, do you complain about his decorating scheme or when he gives you a ride in his car, do you complain about the suspension?

You might want to spend a bit of time getting acquainted before us our their breath stinks, ya know?  If it's waves ya want bud...there's plenty of people happy to make them for ya.
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Jeff,

Let's ramp up the laugh meter, or maybe we can all change our medication.

In fact speaking of medication . . . I love to see Michael go all out.

This to me is a great business model and of course stunning web site design

[a href=\"http://www.nowbekanye.com/]http://www.nowbekanye.com/[/url]

We could easily produce www.nowbemikey.com

Think about  it two pills a house on the lake, a gallery and world wide fame.

Come on Michael, share the love man.

Canada is the king of the export to America presiciption drug, so I'm sure outsourcing this will be easy, though Michael might have to give up a big part of dna, (personally I'd suggest  a little toe, cause nobody really needs a little toe.)

JR
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Rob C on July 12, 2008, 04:35:20 pm
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Jeff,

Let's ramp up the laugh meter, or maybe we can all change our medication.

In fact speaking of medication . . . I love to see Michael go all out.

This to me is a great business model and of course stunning web site design

http://www.nowbekanye.com/ (http://www.nowbekanye.com/)

We could easily produce www.nowbemikey.com

Think about  it two pills a house on the lake, a gallery and world wide fame.

Come on Michael, share the love man.

Canada is the king of the export to America presiciption drug, so I'm sure outsourcing this will be easy, though Michael might have to give up a big part of dna, (personally I'd suggest  a little toe, cause nobody really needs a little toe.)

JR
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James, what in hell are you talking about?

Rob C
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: peteh on July 12, 2008, 04:53:56 pm
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James, what in hell are you talking about?

Rob C
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[a href=\"http://www.nowbekanye.com/]http://www.nowbekanye.com/[/url] Are those on the front page of this site , cut off sheep nipples? Or should I say ,udders?
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Rob C on July 12, 2008, 05:06:41 pm
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http://www.nowbekanye.com/ (http://www.nowbekanye.com/) Are those on the front page of this site , cut off sheep nipples? Or should I say ,udders?
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=207686\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

Yes, I tried the site, but it just didn´t open to anything beyond an ugly home page. Or just took too long for my three minute mind.

Rob C
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: James R Russell on July 12, 2008, 05:10:23 pm
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James, what in hell are you talking about?

Rob C
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I dunnno.

I guess I'm saying we can all lighten up.  The forum is just a forum, the look is canned, the words we write are semi-original . . . semi.

I love the Kahne West thing because it's fun.


JR
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Rob C on July 12, 2008, 05:10:41 pm
James

I have just had another look at Hans Feurer´s agent´s site and there are some new (to me) shots added to his portfolio that you might like. Sadly, some lovely ones have gone...

http://www.wibagency.com/phtgrph/hfeurer/pgs/hf1.html (http://www.wibagency.com/phtgrph/hfeurer/pgs/hf1.html)

Rob C
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: JDClements on July 14, 2008, 09:22:18 pm
I am not complaining, but I have wondered why there is an "Invision" logo instead of "Luminous Landscape".
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on July 14, 2008, 10:07:53 pm
They write the software that provides the forum...
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: michael on July 15, 2008, 08:56:35 am
Thanks for the humour James.

Here's the crux of the matter. Everything takes time and money. Sure, the Forum software could be spifffed up, but it would cost. And what would be gained in the end?

I've redesigned the main site itself three times over the past 10 years, and it hasn't been cheap. I'm not a graphics or web person, so again, it would take money to do another major facelift.

I feel that the site's overall design and layout works. No, it's not hip and trendy, but I actually like old comfortable shoes.  I subscribe to the philosophy – if it ain't broke don't fix it.

Michael
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: kaelaria on July 15, 2008, 11:36:10 am
Here's an easy upgrade that'll make a nice difference.  Replace this file on your server and put your nice logo up top instead of the bland default forum maker logo:
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on July 15, 2008, 01:02:08 pm
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Here's an easy upgrade that'll make a nice difference.  Replace this file on your server and put your nice logo up top instead of the bland default forum maker logo:
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=208396\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Yep, I printed one out on a PostIt and stuck it on my screen - looks good  
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: JDClements on July 15, 2008, 03:30:40 pm
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They write the software that provides the forum...
[{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a] (http://index.php?act=findpost&pid=208253\")

Sure they do. But just as an example, [a href=\"http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php]this forum[/url] isn't using software written by "Groundspeak". Instead, it is the name of the company that owns and runs the forum.

The forum software used here works well, and is set up well. When I first landed here it was not through the main site and I really did think I was on the "Invision" site. (The name is not an unreasonable one for a photography site.)

The logo that kaelaria provided just needs to be uploaded here: http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_images/1/logo4.gif (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_images/1/logo4.gif)

Should be a 10-second free upgrade.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Caracalla on July 15, 2008, 05:08:37 pm
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Sure they do. But just as an example, this forum (http://forums.groundspeak.com/GC/index.php) isn't using software written by "Groundspeak". Instead, it is the name of the company that owns and runs the forum.

The forum software used here works well, and is set up well. When I first landed here it was not through the main site and I really did think I was on the "Invision" site. (The name is not an unreasonable one for a photography site.)

The logo that kaelaria provided just needs to be uploaded here: http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_images/1/logo4.gif (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_images/1/logo4.gif)

Should be a 10-second free upgrade.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=208456\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

I would do this, it's a good and effective idea and  like DClement said it could be done in 1 minute....
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Yoram from Berlin on July 15, 2008, 05:30:55 pm
The reason I brought this up in the first place was because I had to look something up for a blog I'm building for someone, and the Movable Type Forum looks like this.... (http://forums.sixapart.com/)

I just thought it odd that two sites catering to highly creative people go with a corporate default look.

       <-- some smileys for people who might feel the need to lecture us design-conscious types about form vs function.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on July 15, 2008, 05:45:34 pm
Ok, ok alright already - I put the proper one up

Now go spend some money in the Store  
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: kaelaria on July 15, 2008, 05:49:30 pm
See, that wasn't so hard  

Now go make something new like the long overdue next VJ for us to buy  
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Yoram from Berlin on July 15, 2008, 05:52:47 pm
You sir, are the man.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on July 15, 2008, 05:53:05 pm
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See, that wasn't so hard   

Now go make something new like the long overdue next VJ for us to buy 
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=208497\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Actually I am slogging through 10 hours of Lightroom 2 Tutorial to be released 'very soon'
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: kaelaria on July 15, 2008, 05:54:53 pm
Hmmmm....last time that meant 'farming out the work to a guy that dropped the ball for 3 months and I had to redo for 2 months'      
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 15, 2008, 06:44:45 pm
Wow! I like seeing that nifty LL logo instead of Invision at the top of the forum. It really spruces it up and adds a bit of color to an otherwise drab forum skin.

One question, though: When I enlarge that logo, why do I see very fine print saying "Everything on this website is the exclusive property of Kaelaria."  
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: michael on July 15, 2008, 06:59:58 pm
Are we happy?

Michael
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: BruceHouston on July 15, 2008, 07:03:41 pm
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Are we happy?

Michael
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Peachy happy!
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Yoram from Berlin on July 15, 2008, 07:09:17 pm
Yup! Thanks guys.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Caracalla on July 15, 2008, 07:36:46 pm
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Are we happy?

Michael
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Yes Michael.. However you are known to be original, your images speak the truth!!! Therefore, I would extend the logo from left to right end... it will visually look better, more balanced if you will.
 
I know some may be against the idea but I find that piece 'of web realestate  ' perfect for future announcement's as it seats nice at the top and it's not irritating at all. Second best would be to leave it just plane, but definitely all the way where the line ends (from start to finish).

Worst case scenario... you don't have to do it right away, but in time.. whenever....
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: framah on July 15, 2008, 09:22:35 pm
WOW!! Hokey smokes, Rocky!!!

That new fancy logo sure looks good!!
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 15, 2008, 09:43:57 pm
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Are we happy?

Michael
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Deleriously so!
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: DarkPenguin on July 15, 2008, 11:17:08 pm
It looms over the forums.  I feel like it is going to fall and crush me!  If I am quiet maybe it not notice me.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 16, 2008, 12:08:43 am
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It looms over the forums.  I feel like it is going to fall and crush me!  If I am quiet maybe it not notice me.
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=208567\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
The relentless Luminosity of the Landscape Logo seeks out all penguins, wherever they may try to hide. Resistance is futile!
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: wolfnowl on July 16, 2008, 12:46:59 am
Don't know about that whole blue and green colour scheme though...  
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: michael on July 16, 2008, 07:43:04 am
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Don't know about that whole blue and green colour scheme though...

Neither do I.

Now we have to get someone to reskin the forum. Damn!

Michael
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: john beardsworth on July 16, 2008, 07:48:19 am
The new banner logo does look odd - 2/3 of the width of my screen, as if it's been designed on on 800 pixel wide monitor.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on July 16, 2008, 09:26:01 am
Place your vote for the width of the forum logo
It will sit flush left until a new 'skin' is designed and paid for...

200
400
800 (as now)
960
1024
1280
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Yoram from Berlin on July 16, 2008, 09:35:25 am
1280

I'd pitch in for a new skin design.

FYI for those who like the current one - skins for such forums can be selected in a pull-down menu, provided more than one is available.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 16, 2008, 09:39:30 am
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Now we have to get someone to reskin the forum. Damn!

Michael
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Careful, Michael! Remember the chaos that ensued a while ago when you invited "improvements" to the website?

I'm all for improvements, as long as:
1.   They make it better (not just different or slicker), and
2.   They don't take any of your or Chris's time away from doing the good stuff that we all come here for.

Just my 2 cents (US, so not worth very much right now).

-Eric
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: kaelaria on July 16, 2008, 09:42:53 am
200
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Jay Kaplan on July 16, 2008, 10:05:53 am
Wall to Wall
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: john beardsworth on July 16, 2008, 10:21:12 am
Make it 200 - any of the larger sizes will just look accidental on certain screen sizes

John
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: seangirard on July 16, 2008, 12:03:02 pm
Man, tough crowd here.

Anyhow, the quick and dirty way to get a "wall-to-wall" look is to make your logo image whatever size you want it to be (w/in reason), make sure it runs out to a solid patch of color on the right like it does now, and replace the background image w/ a solid tile.

So, make this

http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_.../1/tile_sub.gif (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_images/1/tile_sub.gif)

look like the one attached.
[attachment=7476:attachment]
Now can we please go back to pixel peeping and uninformed speculation? Except you medium format guys - you can return to obsessing over beautiful women and gear I cannot afford  



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Place your vote for the width of the forum logo
It will sit flush left until a new 'skin' is designed and paid for...

200
400
800 (as now)
960
1024
1280
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=208641\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: francois on July 16, 2008, 12:26:45 pm
200
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Christopher Sanderson on July 16, 2008, 02:55:57 pm
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So, make this
http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_.../1/tile_sub.gif (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/style_images/1/tile_sub.gif)
look like the one attached.[attachment=7476:attachment]
Now can we please go back to pixel peeping and uninformed speculation? Except you medium format guys - you can return to obsessing over beautiful women and gear I cannot afford 
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=208681\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]
Hmm - good try but it did not work very well, that tile is used elsewhere on the page and it (as some may have seen) looked pretty peculiar

Enough wasted time. I will put the logo back closer to the original ... Let's close this topic and move on
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: JDClements on July 16, 2008, 06:29:37 pm
Logo looks good the way it is now. There'll be no mistaking whose forum this is. (And maybe a new skin in green/yellows will drop in some day.)
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: bernie west on July 16, 2008, 07:11:39 pm
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Logo looks good the way it is now. There'll be no mistaking whose forum this is. (And maybe a new skin in green/yellows will drop in some day.)
[a href=\"index.php?act=findpost&pid=208776\"][{POST_SNAPBACK}][/a]

ditto
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Caracalla on July 17, 2008, 12:40:12 am
Yes skin colors green & yellow will of course improve overall look basically make it 100% perfect...

However, I thought simple original Logo with no additional design/alteration from left to right will look balanced, not cut off/etc.... but I guess short one works for now also....
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: john beardsworth on July 17, 2008, 07:43:25 am
That's better - good enough. Matching up the skin colours can go into the long grass.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: James R on July 17, 2008, 10:03:15 am
The new logo certainly makes all these comments far more informative.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 17, 2008, 11:35:35 am
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The new logo certainly makes all these comments far more informative.
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Especially the way it turns the really stupid ones into profound philosophical pronouncements.  
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Rob C on July 18, 2008, 01:33:17 pm
Err... am I just a Luddite, or is there something wrong with what we have?

Rob C
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on July 18, 2008, 03:23:27 pm
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Err... am I just a Luddite, or is there something wrong with what we have?

Rob C
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Of course you're a Luddite, Rob! So am I. But didn't you find it just a bit entertaining recently to see a different logo each time you logged in to the forum?  

Eric M.
Title: LL Forum Site Design?
Post by: Rob C on July 18, 2008, 03:55:43 pm
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Of course you're a Luddite, Rob! So am I. But didn't you find it just a bit entertaining recently to see a different logo each time you logged in to the forum?   

Eric M.
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Eric - what can I say? I failed to notice a thing. That, of course, is why supermarkets keep shifting the coffee and corn flakes. Oddly, all they manage to do is to annoy me, pushing the trolley, and my wife trying to find what´s on her list.

Buenas noches, fellow Luddite!

Rob C