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Equipment & Techniques => Digital Cameras & Shooting Techniques => Topic started by: KevinA on May 15, 2008, 06:56:53 am
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Thats a bit much to hope for on the WWW.
Users here, have any of you suffered with focus problems with this camera that can be considered beyond doubt the cameras fault?
If so under which circumstances?
This is in relation to the "S" model only.
Kevin.
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Sorry (thankfully), I haven't.
It's been perfect for me aside from: http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article...1ds3_tilt.html/ (http://www.northlight-images.co.uk/article_pages/cameras/canon_1ds3_tilt.html/)
Mine's been superb for me.
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just the tilt problem here too - oh and having to be more careful with user technique, steady hands or solid tripod required if not shooting at high shutter speeds. No problems with focusing at all.
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No tilt, no AF problem so far!
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Keith & Francois - may I ask for the first few numbers of your cameras serial, and when you bought them?
Supposedly the tilt problem only affected the first lot of cameras. I purchased mine in Jan '08, and mine suffers.
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Keith & Francois - may I ask for the first few numbers of your cameras serial, and when you bought them?
Supposedly the tilt problem only affected the first lot of cameras. I purchased mine in Jan '08, and mine suffers.
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Andy,
I got mine about 6 weeks ago (serial: 615xxx). It came with firmware 1.0.6. Tilt was the first thing I tested....
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Thats a bit much to hope for on the WWW.
Users here, have any of you suffered with focus problems with this camera that can be considered beyond doubt the cameras fault?
If so under which circumstances?
This is in relation to the "S" model only.
Kevin.
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It's a great camera. My viewfinder is straight, but very slightly crops the cottom of the frame. I've not sent it in yet, but will probably get round to it sometime. Everything else is outstanding and I find it much better to use than my 5D as well as giving higher image quality.. I got it a couple of months ago.
Mike
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I'm currently giving a pair of them a regular beating with no problems.
Also not seen any dust yet.
Very impressed.
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Thats a bit much to hope for on the WWW.
Users here, have any of you suffered with focus problems with this camera that can be considered beyond doubt the cameras fault?
If so under which circumstances?
This is in relation to the "S" model only.
Kevin.
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Nope, it's been stellar. I've mostly used it for landscape, but have had some good success with elk in three or four locations in and around Prairie Creek Redwoods in different lighting conditions.
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I've just been on the phone to the repair centre. My 1Ds was 13 degrees (!!!) out.
They've now ordered 'spacers' from Canon, which may take up to 3 working days to be delivered.
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I've just been on the phone to the repair centre. My 1Ds was 13 degrees (!!!) out.
I've checked this out on previous shots my own computer - I think they may have this wrong, it being closer to 1.3 degrees out.
Surely 13 degrees would be hugely noticeable?!
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Thats a bit much to hope for on the WWW.
Users here, have any of you suffered with focus problems with this camera that can be considered beyond doubt the cameras fault?
If so under which circumstances?
This is in relation to the "S" model only.
Kevin.
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Having moaned on and on about having to go through eight 1Ds3 bodies to find one with a viewfinder that actually tells the truth about the where I'm pointing the camera, I've now put a few thousand frames on the clock.
I did have a focus issue with an 85 1.2 wide but rectified this with a +13 focus adjustment for that lens alone. Strangely, the same lens is perfect on my Mk2.
It could be this need for fine tuning of individual lenses that you are also experiencing.
I do own Canon zoom lenses but because I've found none of them to be reliably sharp right across there zoom range I avoid using them whenever possible. I have a 24-70 that's razor sharp at 70mm, like looking through a milkbottle bottom at 35mm then 'reasonable' at 24mm (It is, of course, in the eye of the beholder).
Zoom optical technology has moved on tremendously, but the glass and mechanics have to work so much harder than in a prime. With a Mk3 sensor pushing glass as far as it will go it seems to make sense to give the glass a fighting chance! A mechanical error in a lens is no longer measured in a fraction of a millimeter but a wavelength of light.
Out of interest, like so many Canon users I've found even their 'L' series wide angle prime lenses to be woefully lacking. I recently grabbed a Zeiss 21mm and I'm simply staggered by the clarity, colour and complete lack of chromatic abberation - right into the corners. Oh, and of course no more bendy lines either! Well done Zeiss of old - wake up Canon of present!
Apologies for going on a bit, sat here with a coffee waiting for the light outside to improve!
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No problems so far with my camera.
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I've checked this out on previous shots my own computer - I think they may have this wrong, it being closer to 1.3 degrees out.
Surely 13 degrees would be hugely noticeable?!
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Yes, it must be 1.3°. I don't even think that it's possible to get to 13°.
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Hi Andy,
serial 614xxx and i bought it in feb in the UK
Keith & Francois - may I ask for the first few numbers of your cameras serial, and when you bought them?
Supposedly the tilt problem only affected the first lot of cameras. I purchased mine in Jan '08, and mine suffers.
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Keith & Francois - may I ask for the first few numbers of your cameras serial, and when you bought them?
Supposedly the tilt problem only affected the first lot of cameras. I purchased mine in Jan '08, and mine suffers.
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608xxx - got it last last November, so an early one I'd think :-)
It's the one in the Northlight article.
Not fixed yet (waiting for a bit of spare time) but it has enabled me to learn to use liveview a bit more in my interior and architectural work (the only times I really use a tripod)
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OK all, I have one now sitting in it's box on the kitchen table, as soon as clients stop bothering me with requests for images, I'll open the box.
Kevin.
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OK all, I have one now sitting in it's box on the kitchen table, as soon as clients stop bothering me with requests for images, I'll open the box.
Kevin.
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At the very least, put it on charge...
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Having moaned on and on about having to go through eight 1Ds3 bodies to find one with a viewfinder that actually tells the truth about the where I'm pointing the camera, I've now put a few thousand frames on the clock.
I did have a focus issue with an 85 1.2 wide but rectified this with a +13 focus adjustment for that lens alone. Strangely, the same lens is perfect on my Mk2.
It could be this need for fine tuning of individual lenses that you are also experiencing.
I do own Canon zoom lenses but because I've found none of them to be reliably sharp right across there zoom range I avoid using them whenever possible. I have a 24-70 that's razor sharp at 70mm, like looking through a milkbottle bottom at 35mm then 'reasonable' at 24mm (It is, of course, in the eye of the beholder).
Zoom optical technology has moved on tremendously, but the glass and mechanics have to work so much harder than in a prime. With a Mk3 sensor pushing glass as far as it will go it seems to make sense to give the glass a fighting chance! A mechanical error in a lens is no longer measured in a fraction of a millimeter but a wavelength of light.
Out of interest, like so many Canon users I've found even their 'L' series wide angle prime lenses to be woefully lacking. I recently grabbed a Zeiss 21mm and I'm simply staggered by the clarity, colour and complete lack of chromatic abberation - right into the corners. Oh, and of course no more bendy lines either! Well done Zeiss of old - wake up Canon of present!
Apologies for going on a bit, sat here with a coffee waiting for the light outside to improve!
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Yep, it's a great excuse to go back to primes:)
Mike
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Yep, it's a great excuse to go back to primes:)
Mike
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My problem is the camera does not really excite me much. What I have really got an itch to do is shoot with a 12 1/2 inch 1940's Portrait lens I have just bought, I have been putting a 5x7 kit together and just waiting for the final piece of the jigsaw to arrive from Germany. That's all for fun, the Canon is work, I have at least read the Canon manual a couple of times now. It will most likely be Monday before I get a chance to shoot with it. Now if the 5x7 bits turn up today, that will be my weekend sorted.
Kevin.
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My problem is the camera does not really excite me much. What I have really got an itch to do is shoot with a 12 1/2 inch 1940's Portrait lens I have just bought, I have been putting a 5x7 kit together and just waiting for the final piece of the jigsaw to arrive from Germany. That's all for fun, the Canon is work, I have at least read the Canon manual a couple of times now. It will most likely be Monday before I get a chance to shoot with it. Now if the 5x7 bits turn up today, that will be my weekend sorted.
Kevin.
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What I will say about it so far is what a fantastic viewfinder, it's almost like looking through a MF 645, I can't believe more has not been said about it.
Kevin.
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What I will say about it so far is what a fantastic viewfinder, it's almost like looking through a MF 645, I can't believe more has not been said about it.
Kevin.
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Agreed - a very understated benefit of the 1DS MKIII is its viewfinder.
Everytime I look through mine it makes me smile. In fact, you quickly get used to how good it is - this afternoon I used my 5D for the first time in ages and did a double take on looking through the view finder. It was like 'Who turned out the lights!'
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Agreed - a very understated benefit of the 1DS MKIII is its viewfinder.
Everytime I look through mine it makes me smile. In fact, you quickly get used to how good it is - this afternoon I used my 5D for the first time in ages and did a double take on looking through the view finder. It was like 'Who turned out the lights!'
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Now try looking through a crop body!
With my 1Ds being repaired, I've been using a 400D just for fun.
I don't know how people can use them full time!
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Bought mine in December in London (early example I guess serial 602xxx), absolutely no issues with the camera. Luck? Don't know, but I have so enjoyed using this compared to previous cameras.
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Tried a few lenses out on my mk3 on Friday on infinity focus to see how they went for landscape - the best of the bunch was a 50mm nikkor on a Novoflex adaptor! the Canon 50 macro was just a tad behind and a 105 mm nikkor and 100 canon macros were identical and both good.
My 85 1.2 is perfect on my Mk2 , but seems not quite as sharp as i would expect it to be at pixel peep levels on the mk3. after your post I will have a go at micro adjustment.
I tried my 16 - 35 mk 1 out at 16mm f8, which is where I seem to use it far too much for my own good ( but when you need wide - you really NEED wide), sharp centrally at infinity , acceptably sharp closer in the corners, and then a weird area consistent on both sides, just off the frame edges of slight fuzziness which probably wouldn't be noticeable in a print so much, and wasn't quite so noticeable on a mk2 and probably is due to CA more than anything. I didn't try the 17-35 Nikkor I have , it might make an interesting comparison!
Having moaned on and on about having to go through eight 1Ds3 bodies to find one with a viewfinder that actually tells the truth about the where I'm pointing the camera, I've now put a few thousand frames on the clock.
I did have a focus issue with an 85 1.2 wide but rectified this with a +13 focus adjustment for that lens alone. Strangely, the same lens is perfect on my Mk2.
It could be this need for fine tuning of individual lenses that you are also experiencing.
I do own Canon zoom lenses but because I've found none of them to be reliably sharp right across there zoom range I avoid using them whenever possible. I have a 24-70 that's razor sharp at 70mm, like looking through a milkbottle bottom at 35mm then 'reasonable' at 24mm (It is, of course, in the eye of the beholder).
Zoom optical technology has moved on tremendously, but the glass and mechanics have to work so much harder than in a prime. With a Mk3 sensor pushing glass as far as it will go it seems to make sense to give the glass a fighting chance! A mechanical error in a lens is no longer measured in a fraction of a millimeter but a wavelength of light.
Out of interest, like so many Canon users I've found even their 'L' series wide angle prime lenses to be woefully lacking. I recently grabbed a Zeiss 21mm and I'm simply staggered by the clarity, colour and complete lack of chromatic abberation - right into the corners. Oh, and of course no more bendy lines either! Well done Zeiss of old - wake up Canon of present!
Apologies for going on a bit, sat here with a coffee waiting for the light outside to improve!
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I've found my 16-35 MarkII rather impressive at the wide end on the 1DS3 and not so impressive at the 35mm end. It's certainly no Zeiss 21mm but when stopped down to f8 shows very little CA compared to other wide angle Canon lenses if have used. I have been making some stunning prints with this lens on Iford Gold Fibre Silk.
I must admit though I am rather excited about other lens manufactures recently bringing out new sharp lenses to the market. Hopefully this will encourage Canon to do the same.
Dave
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I sent mine in (beginning of Jan) for the VF alignment, then had to send it back because they killed the AF fixing the VF. But it's all well now and I love this camera attached to my converted Contax N lenses. I just did the firmware update which adds (fixes?) some nice extensions I think should have been there to start with in the multi-controller. It's a good sign they're wising up, no doubt thanks to the D3 .
I need to add, not only the excellent VF but I love the Info mode of the back display. Everything you need to know and change in big letters even the aging blind like me can see. Ergonomically overall it's a big improvement. Oh yeah, and the battery information and batteries themselves.
I do find the diopter adjustment not as handy as the Mk II's, and also the lack of silent mode with self-timer, unlike the Mk II again. But that's a small price to pay for the rest.
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I tested my 16-35, 24-70, and 70-200L lenses with the moire pattern shooting into a LCD and using live view. All lenses were -0-. I even tested the 70-200 w/1.4 extender--dead on. No adjustment needed. I got my DS3 about three weeks ago. Serial number is:
629005
I think I'm glad I waited, actually.
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I tested my 16-35, 24-70, and 70-200L lenses with the moire pattern shooting into a LCD and using live view. All lenses were -0-. I even tested the 70-200 w/1.4 extender--dead on. No adjustment needed. I got my DS3 about three weeks ago. Serial number is:
629005
I think I'm glad I waited, actually.
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I shot a few images yesterday to make shure it works ok before shooting on a job tomorrow.
I processed in Aperture, I am very impressed with the amount I can use recovery and highlight recovery without the image breaking up into something ugly, the images also looked sharper to me than the mkII, I've turned edge sharpening down a few notches for my default. I'm warming to this camera bit by bit.
Tomorrow will be the first pro job test weather permitting.
Kevin.
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I tested my 16-35, 24-70, and 70-200L lenses with the moire pattern shooting into a LCD and using live view. All lenses were -0-. I even tested the 70-200 w/1.4 extender--dead on. No adjustment needed. I got my DS3 about three weeks ago. Serial number is:
629005
I think I'm glad I waited, actually.
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I shot a few images yesterday to make shure it works ok before shooting on a job tomorrow.
I processed in Aperture, I am very impressed with the amount I can use recovery and highlight recovery without the image breaking up into something ugly, the images also looked sharper to me than the mkII, I've turned edge sharpening down a few notches for my default. I'm warming to this camera bit by bit.
Tomorrow will be the first pro job test weather permitting.
Kevin.
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I shot a few images yesterday to make shure it works ok before shooting on a job tomorrow.
I processed in Aperture, I am very impressed with the amount I can use recovery and highlight recovery without the image breaking up into something ugly, the images also looked sharper to me than the mkII, I've turned edge sharpening down a few notches for my default. I'm warming to this camera bit by bit.
Tomorrow will be the first pro job test weather permitting.
Kevin.
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That's the "s" mkII
Kevin.
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I shot a few images yesterday to make shure it works ok before shooting on a job tomorrow.
I processed in Aperture, I am very impressed with the amount I can use recovery and highlight recovery without the image breaking up into something ugly, the images also looked sharper to me than the mkII, I've turned edge sharpening down a few notches for my default. I'm warming to this camera bit by bit.
Tomorrow will be the first pro job test weather permitting.
Kevin.
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Turned edge sharpening down where?
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One week on, mine is still being repaired
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Turned edge sharpening down where?
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In Aperture.
Aperture has a very good edge sharpening tool. I set up a number of presets and apply to images. For the smkIII I have made a set that is less strong than for the smkII.
Kevin.
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In Aperture.
Aperture has a very good edge sharpening tool. I set up a number of presets and apply to images. For the smkIII I have made a set that is less strong than for the smkII.
Kevin.
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heh, I was thinking I must have missed some Custom Function in the MKIII. Thanks.
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Got mine a few weeks ago, 7,000 + frames on it. I haven't found any need to adjust lenses yet, I suppose I should set a proper test and at least check, but I haven't had the time or seen the need yet.
I compared some colour and resolution tests to my 5D. Colour was better as was the resolution(expected).
The overall handling, AF and VF is so far ahead of the 5D, that I suspect I will be selling the 5D shortly.
In good light, the files are fabulous, in dull light, you really don't get the potential out of the camera(true for 5D as well).
Noise levels on the 5D at 1600 are better though. All in all a really great camera, if a couple grand too costly.
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I ordered my Canon 1Ds Mark III today online. I've been using my 40D since selling my 1Ds Mark II about 7 months ago.
Any experience using the Canon TS 24mm lens on the 1dsMkIII?
Bud James
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AF has been fine, though, I don't shoot AI-Servo. The latest firmware update which enable focus point selection via the thumb-stick was a big improvement. Using the dials stunk.
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AF has been fine, though, I don't shoot AI-Servo. The latest firmware update which enable focus point selection via the thumb-stick was a big improvement. Using the dials stunk.
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Shot my first job with it on Wednesday.
I need to make shure I have not got rose coloured glasses on, being a new camera I can start seeing WOW in the images. Right now I'm thinking I can see more robust natural colour with an increased ability to recover highlight detail and more detail given more separation to objects so more depth. As I say it might be Rose coloured glasses syndrome.
Kevin.
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Shot my first job with it on Wednesday.
I need to make shure I have not got rose coloured glasses on, being a new camera I can start seeing WOW in the images. Right now I'm thinking I can see more robust natural colour with an increased ability to recover highlight detail and more detail given more separation to objects so more depth. As I say it might be Rose coloured glasses syndrome.
Kevin.
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I think I agree, but it's most likely due to the bit depth being greater than any camera Canon has yet made, being the result of the new processors working the 14bit files. I haven't had a chance to really work this camera out yet, much less print anything, but I am going to try soon.
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Shot my first job with it on Wednesday.
I need to make shure I have not got rose coloured glasses on, being a new camera I can start seeing WOW in the images. Right now I'm thinking I can see more robust natural colour with an increased ability to recover highlight detail and more detail given more separation to objects so more depth. As I say it might be Rose coloured glasses syndrome.
Kevin.
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No , I reckon there is something in that. Used mine in a dimly lit boiler room the other day . the colour and DR really holds all the way to 3200asa , which is very clean for that speed. much better than I thought it would be despite looking at online samples. In fact I did some shots on a tripod as well at 200 asa and really had to look hard at 100% on screen to see the difference.
I did a commercial portrait shoot with studio flash the next day and didn't really have to do much computer work. With the 1ds2 it needs more saturation and contrast ( possibly due to a slightly bigger dynamic range than the mk 3 at 100 - 400 asa ) applied .
I'm still struggling with the handling changes but the live view is a definite plus for composition. why isn't there a grid in the viewfinder as well ? the Kodak 14n had one. I'm also using the live view button as the mirror up button - not sure that was the intention but it is convenient.
The down load speeds to computer seemed relatively slow compared to the mk 2 firewire. I went down to the local electronics store and bought a 5 metre active usb extension cable which solved that problem very nicely.
21mp is all good , but comparing to my relatively ancient 22mp 132c Imacon and antidiluvian ELX and CF lenses, the fine detail crispness isn't quite there - probably the AA filter , still the Canon is very good indeed.
But yes - maybe we are getting over the new digital camera syndrome. I feel I could have lived with the mk 2 for a while yet ( just shows what a good camera that one is / was )
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I have mine since January 2008 and had no issues. Lens used, 17-40, 24-70, 70-200, 16-35
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No , I reckon there is something in that. Used mine in a dimly lit boiler room the other day . the colour and DR really holds all the way to 3200asa , which is very clean for that speed. much better than I thought it would be despite looking at online samples. In fact I did some shots on a tripod as well at 200 asa and really had to look hard at 100% on screen to see the difference.
I did a commercial portrait shoot with studio flash the next day and didn't really have to do much computer work. With the 1ds2 it needs more saturation and contrast ( possibly due to a slightly bigger dynamic range than the mk 3 at 100 - 400 asa ) applied .
I'm still struggling with the handling changes but the live view is a definite plus for composition. why isn't there a grid in the viewfinder as well ? the Kodak 14n had one. I'm also using the live view button as the mirror up button - not sure that was the intention but it is convenient.
The down load speeds to computer seemed relatively slow compared to the mk 2 firewire. I went down to the local electronics store and bought a 5 metre active usb extension cable which solved that problem very nicely.
21mp is all good , but comparing to my relatively ancient 22mp 132c Imacon and antidiluvian ELX and CF lenses, the fine detail crispness isn't quite there - probably the AA filter , still the Canon is very good indeed.
But yes - maybe we are getting over the new digital camera syndrome. I feel I could have lived with the mk 2 for a while yet ( just shows what a good camera that one is / was )
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I had a Kodak and wondered why no one does a grid like that. I also thought the live view button would make a good mirror up. As I shoot mostly from Aircraft that isn't a priority for me.
I am more impressed with the sMKIII than I thought I would be.
Kevin.
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not a single problem with my dsmk3, simply a real workhorse you can trust. And imagequality is really great