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Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: petermarrek on May 07, 2008, 03:47:01 pm
Mondrian-Hall is a commercial photographic supply house in Canada , they have HP printers on sale right now at ridiculous prices, HP Z3100 for $1414.00 ca. I have no connection to them, just thought I would share this. The rep. I dealt with is Kevin Yu. Peter Marrek
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: walter.sk on May 07, 2008, 08:36:35 pm
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Mondrian-Hall is a commercial photographic supply house in Canada , they have HP printers on sale right now at ridiculous prices, HP Z3100 for $1414.00 ca. I have no connection to them, just thought I would share this. The rep. I dealt with is Kevin Yu. Peter Marrek
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That's hard to believe, unless it's a refurb, or HP is planning to dump the Z3100's because of the roller marks on thick paper?
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: araz on May 07, 2008, 09:18:53 pm
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That's hard to believe, unless it's a refurb, or HP is planning to dump the Z3100's because of the roller marks on thick paper?
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This site has it also.

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Araz
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: EvoM on May 07, 2008, 11:39:11 pm
Directdial has the 44" at under 3,000! US/Canadian
This really pisses me off as here in Australia I paid 13,500 AUD a year ago! It's probaly still around that price here. By the way, the Aussie dollar is presently at .95 US.

It's unbelievable the mark up we have here in Australia...you guys are so lucky!

Evo
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: michael on May 08, 2008, 07:14:28 am
See my posting on What's New with today's date. It's true.

Looks like the end of the road for the Z3100.

New models can't be too far behind.

Michael
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: CJL on May 08, 2008, 08:09:55 am
It's about time we Canucks got a price break on something...  
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: PhotoArchivist on May 08, 2008, 09:13:15 am
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See my posting on What's New with today's date. It's true.

Looks like the end of the road for the Z3100.

New models can't be too far behind.

Michael
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I just called from US.  The promotion is for Canada only and they cannot ship to US.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: Kenneth Sky on May 08, 2008, 09:24:02 am
Printers Plus (Canada) is selling the B9180 for $307! If this isn't dumping, what is?
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: DaveW on May 08, 2008, 12:18:06 pm
Darn that is tempting... couldn't quite convince my wife that we need a 24" large format printer though.  I'm sure in a year or so I'll regret not buying one, but for now I'd now what to get a more expensive camera to take advantage of the size of the new printer... the never ending cycle!

However, couldn't pass up the deals on the B9180 - 325 from Tigerdirect.ca, free shipping.

Now I can finally use the 100 sheets of 13x19" photo matte paper HP gave me (somewhat mistakenly)!
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: neil snape on May 08, 2008, 12:29:30 pm
Decidedly great , unrealistically low prices on the Canadian HP side. I which we in Europe would have some , of , any of the rebates, specials etc that the US and Canada enjoy.
In Europe you'd pay the same for the 9180's cartridges alone.

There are  many reasons for many users to want a Z at that price too. Just getting into such a system is brought into line with such a promotion that it makes sense if you have room to have a Z to use it for it's large capacity ink carts, spectro etc.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: Eli Burakian on May 08, 2008, 02:40:05 pm
Bummer, I've tried everywhere.  It's still a great deal even with the import tax for the USA but everywhere it's out of stock.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: DougMorgan on May 08, 2008, 03:23:42 pm
I know I'll get flamed for this but a sales rep for a well known inkjet supply company told me a week ago that HP was getting out of the wide format fine art niche.   Didn't think much of it at the time, but now......

Doug
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: Eli Burakian on May 08, 2008, 03:32:19 pm
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I know I'll get flamed for this but a sales rep for a well known inkjet supply company told me a week ago that HP was getting out of the wide format fine art niche.   Didn't think much of it at the time, but now......

Doug
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Whoa!  That would be crazy.  Maybe it's a good thing that I missed it since there will be no customer support if that's the case.  Still, it seems like such a good printer.

I thought it was a very successful line too.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: rdonson on May 08, 2008, 03:43:21 pm
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I know I'll get flamed for this but a sales rep for a well known inkjet supply company told me a week ago that HP was getting out of the wide format fine art niche.   Didn't think much of it at the time, but now......

Doug
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No flames, it just doesn't sound like HP.  Not a year after launching their Print 2.0 strategy anyway.  I guess stranger things have happened though.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: Eli Burakian on May 08, 2008, 05:00:24 pm
If I find one of these, does anybody know if the warranty would work for me in the USA?  Also, if I go pick it up in Canada, what is the import tax that I would end up paying, and where would I pay it?  

Thanks for any help!
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: bob mccarthy on May 08, 2008, 05:27:27 pm
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I know I'll get flamed for this but a sales rep for a well known inkjet supply company told me a week ago that HP was getting out of the wide format fine art niche.   Didn't think much of it at the time, but now......

Doug
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Oh Geezzz, HP invested how many billions in this foray into fine art. And I think has been fairly successful.

I can't wait to see new line, I have a new printer in the budget and am waiting for the next generation to be released. The old 7600 is ready to be put out to pasture. Hate changing blacks on the current Epson line.

Bob
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: DougMorgan on May 08, 2008, 09:56:54 pm
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Oh Geezzz, HP invested how many billions in this foray into fine art. And I think has been fairly successful.

I can't wait to see new line, I have a new printer in the budget and am waiting for the next generation to be released. The old 7600 is ready to be put out to pasture. Hate changing blacks on the current Epson line.

Bob
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I hate changing blacks as well and I have absolutely no idea if the rumor I heard has any substance but, and this is what makes me wonder, why would HP put such massive discounts on a product BEFORE announcing a replacement?   Normally the idea would be to get rid of excess old stock AFTER announcing the new candy-coated-tangerine-colored baby.  

What confuses me though is Canada rarely gets the better deal.   They still have a  Canon ipf5000 on clearance for 1700 at a local store, for example -- and I'm sure everyone will be emailing me for details on that deal!!!

PS:  I should add that if ordering an item not in stock from directdial Canada be prepared to ride them to actually get the item.  They are great and very fast when an item is in stock but seem to lose interest for backordered items.  They also don't seem to cross ship much between the USA and Canada.

Doug
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: flbrit on May 09, 2008, 12:21:47 am
As an ex marketing guy, I would not expect HP to leave a large customer base unsupported. Who would ever buy any of their other products again!
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: sposch on May 09, 2008, 02:11:01 am
Saw Z3100 price in "What's new" this morning, called Directdial.com and had one ordered before my toast was cold. Picked it up in Richmond BC on my way home from work. Might be calling in sick with a sore back tomorrow, guess their serious about needing two people to set it up (or at least for carrying it up the stairs).

Steve.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: neil snape on May 09, 2008, 02:30:43 am
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Saw Z3100 price in "What's new" this morning, called Directdial.com and had one ordered before my toast was cold. Picked it up in Richmond BC on my way home from work. Might be calling in sick with a sore back tomorrow, guess their serious about needing two people to set it up (or at least for carrying it up the stairs).

Steve.
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That is great news about the printer, not for the sore back. I had to manhandle the 44" model by myself and it's a challenge for non football player sized people. Once on it's stand though it seems light and easy to push around.
Everything you need is included in the box for set up, so you can calibrate, and test out the profiler as well. Happy printing.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: rdonson on May 09, 2008, 09:47:07 am
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Saw Z3100 price in "What's new" this morning, called Directdial.com and had one ordered before my toast was cold. Picked it up in Richmond BC on my way home from work. Might be calling in sick with a sore back tomorrow, guess their serious about needing two people to set it up (or at least for carrying it up the stairs).

Steve.
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Congrats on getting the new printer and at such a bargain price!!
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: mmurph on May 09, 2008, 09:49:24 am
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Also, if I go pick it up in Canada, what is the import tax that I would end up paying, and where would I pay it? 

I would assume that we would be refunded the Candian VAT when we cross into the US, as with other Canadian purchases?

For import taxes, there is a list of tariffs on the US gov web sites. I find I am often incorrectloy charged tax on my imports tha are supposed to be duty-free.

I am not too concerned about warranty. I live 40 miles from Canada (Windsor), so I assume I can just take it back to Canada for repairs.

Anyone have a realistic suggestion about where/how to buy one of these beasts to bring back to the US? I don't have a Canadian shipping address, so I would need to buy at a store where I could pick it up.  I could go to Toronto, but closer to Windsor would be better.

Any opinions on the 44" Z3100?  It is $2,985 with the APS.  

I haven't followed the Z's too much, as I have 3 large format Epsonright now.  You can also get an Epson 9880 for about $3,400 net. Or wait for the 9900 and pay $5K.

I don't swap blacks too much, especially with the newer fiber papers that are Photo Black.

Hmmmm ....

Any thoughts appreciated.

Best,
Michael
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: neil snape on May 09, 2008, 11:09:24 am
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I know I'll get flamed for this but a sales rep for a well known inkjet supply company told me a week ago that HP was getting out of the wide format fine art niche.   Didn't think much of it at the time, but now......

Doug
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The printers have always brought in a lot of profit for HP. This continues to be true. You'll be able to see next Tuesday with the first quarter report from HP.
In the recent 2 years HP have bought up a slew of print technology companies to add to the growing  product line for LFP, decidedly geared to repro, and permanent print categories, art market included.
So this statement seems pretty unlikely at this point. However there may be highly specialized art market products that could be added , change , or dropped, who knows. Just not the LFP which are going very well for print making for most of the categories including fine art.
Title: HP Z3100 at a good price
Post by: CJL on May 09, 2008, 12:17:57 pm
Don't bother trying to order one of these printers from Direct Dial... I called this morning to check the status on the Z3100 I ordered a couple of days ago, and they told me they don't know if they will be getting  any more in stock (although their "real time" inventory showed 30 in stock when they confirmed my order), nor did they know if they would be able to honor the advertised price.