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Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: Hermie on March 17, 2008, 09:10:26 am
See
http://www.colormunki.com/ (http://www.colormunki.com/)
http://www.colormunki.com/colormunki_photo.shtml (http://www.colormunki.com/colormunki_photo.shtml)

Just noticed that this was already posted here: http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=24009 (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24009)
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: Raw shooter on March 17, 2008, 08:21:33 pm
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See
http://www.colormunki.com/ (http://www.colormunki.com/)
http://www.colormunki.com/colormunki_photo.shtml (http://www.colormunki.com/colormunki_photo.shtml)

Just noticed that this was already posted here: http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index....showtopic=24009 (http://luminous-landscape.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=24009)
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Is the Monkey for sale yet - or is just an anouncement?
Really like the projector functionality.  Looks like a winner, but you just can never tell till you test it yourself.
The price point seems to be quite low for all it is supposed to do.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: digitaldog on March 17, 2008, 09:48:25 pm
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Is the Monkey for sale yet - or is just an anouncement?

Announcement
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: chris moody on March 18, 2008, 12:11:46 pm
It's up for pre order in the UK at £375 inc VAT.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: bob mccarthy on March 18, 2008, 02:46:39 pm
So what advantage over my X-Rite Monaco does this offer? Now if someone would provide a calibrator that also worked for my 1080p high def TV I'd be all over it.

I use an Apple TV for slide shows to customers in the conference room.

bob
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: DarkPenguin on March 18, 2008, 07:10:30 pm
http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Colour%20Manageme...unki/munki.html (http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Colour%20Management/munki/munki.html)
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: francois on March 19, 2008, 05:37:05 am
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http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Colour%20Manageme...unki/munki.html (http://www.photo-i.co.uk/Colour%20Management/munki/munki.html)
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Thanks for the link…
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: Czornyj on March 19, 2008, 01:01:09 pm
Hello Everyone!

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So what advantage over my X-Rite Monaco does this offer?

It gives you the possibility to make your printer+paper profile.

BTW - has anyone seen any detailed information for this device? I suppose it'll be simplier than i1Pro spectrophotometer...
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: papa v2.0 on March 19, 2008, 09:25:03 pm
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Hello Everyone!
It gives you the possibility to make your printer+paper profile.

BTW - has anyone seen any detailed information for this device? I suppose it'll be simplier than i1Pro spectrophotometer...
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judging by the sampling rate on the print profile, it must be an advanced form of colorimeter not a spectrophotometer, along the lines of the old colourtron.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: eronald on March 19, 2008, 11:46:58 pm
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judging by the sampling rate on the print profile, it must be an advanced form of colorimeter not a spectrophotometer, along the lines of the old colourtron.
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I happen to have a sample of the Munki.
I don't know what your word "must" means here, but AFAIK this thing is an i1 spectro with a solidstate illuminant.
Actually, I don't know what you mean by "sampling rate" either.

Edmund
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: Czornyj on March 20, 2008, 07:10:12 am
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judging by the sampling rate on the print profile, it must be an advanced form of colorimeter not a spectrophotometer, along the lines of the old colourtron.
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I also suspected it's a reflective spectrocolorimeter (like - for instance -Spyder3print), but according to xrite it is:
"All-in-One spectrophotometer"
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Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: chris moody on March 20, 2008, 08:39:07 am
From what I can tell this device is device specific. Unlike the eye one photo, I couldn't print my targets at point A and measure at point B. Am I right?
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: digitaldog on March 20, 2008, 09:15:30 am
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I also suspected it's a reflective spectrocolorimeter (like - for instance -Spyder3print), but according to xrite it is:
"All-in-One spectrophotometer"
http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1115 (http://www.xrite.com/product_overview.aspx?ID=1115)
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Nope, its a true Spectrophotometer, using the K2 technology found inside the iSis.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: digitaldog on March 20, 2008, 09:16:40 am
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From what I can tell this device is device specific. Unlike the eye one photo, I couldn't print my targets at point A and measure at point B. Am I right?
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The device is device specific? Well yes. I don't really understand the question.

You can print and measure your targets at any time.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: chris moody on March 20, 2008, 09:45:31 am
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The device is device specific? Well yes. I don't really understand the question.

You can print and measure your targets at any time.
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I get the impression that with the Colormunki a target is printed off and measured, after which a second target is printed based on the results of the first reading which again is measured after which a profile is created. What I really want to know is can I profile targets remotely with this device or does it need to be tethered to the computer on which the profiles will be used. It looks like a neat and portable device compared to the eye one pro and you yourself said that results are comparable.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: digitaldog on March 20, 2008, 09:51:26 am
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I get the impression that with the Colormunki a target is printed off and measured, after which a second target is printed based on the results of the first reading which again is measured after which a profile is created. What I really want to know is can I profile targets remotely with this device or does it need to be tethered to the computer on which the profiles will be used. It looks like a neat and portable device compared to the eye one pro and you yourself said that results are comparable.
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That's correct. The 2nd set of 50 patches is based on measurements of the first 50, making remote work kind of difficult (as in having profiles built remotely). The colorimunki has to be hooked up to measure (unlike the old Pulse).
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: Czornyj on March 20, 2008, 09:52:30 am
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Nope, its a true Spectrophotometer, using the K2 technology found inside the iSis.
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Thanks for the information! Seems like it will be very interesting offer. Any idea whether it will be supported by some more sophisticated profiling software?
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: digitaldog on March 20, 2008, 09:59:47 am
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Thanks for the information! Seems like it will be very interesting offer. Any idea whether it will be supported by some more sophisticated profiling software?
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I would suspect that at some point, IF we can save out the spectral data as text files, it might be possible to use the instrument on other X-Rite software products but that's a ways off. First, the color engine and technology that's making great profiles with 100 patches needs to migrate to other X-Rite (and perhaps although I'm not betting on it), software products. Not that there's much else out there (Datacolor? Not going to happen).
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: chris moody on March 20, 2008, 10:01:05 am
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That's correct. The 2nd set of 50 patches is based on measurements of the first 50, making remote work kind of difficult (as in having profiles built remotely). The colorimunki has to be hooked up to measure (unlike the old Pulse).
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Thank you.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: samosa on March 20, 2008, 04:03:00 pm
I'm a bit puzzled about this Munki product - even after reading all the info on their website. Does it actually calibrate your monitor i.e. does it suggest hardware (monitor) adjustments to colour and brightness based on the measured output; or does it just produce a profile?

I have a Huey which does not calibrate, it only profiles and I want to upgrade. I want a kit that does monitor calibration and profiling as well as printer profiling, but at a sensible price. I've been looking at the Spyder 3 Studio which makes similar claims to the Munki and at the same price but I'd be interested to know the differences - particularly in accuracy.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: digitaldog on March 20, 2008, 04:45:01 pm
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I'm a bit puzzled about this Munki product - even after reading all the info on their website. Does it actually calibrate your monitor i.e. does it suggest hardware (monitor) adjustments to colour and brightness based on the measured output; or does it just produce a profile?


It does both (just like an EyeOne Display or similar product).
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: papa v2.0 on March 21, 2008, 12:02:40 am
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I happen to have a sample of the Munki.
I don't know what your word "must" means here, but AFAIK this thing is an i1 spectro with a solidstate illuminant.
Actually, I don't know what you mean by "sampling rate" either.

Edmund
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i watched the vid of the guy measuring the print patches and it was very quick.

i was wondering how long it was taking to do a colour measurement and at what wavelength intervals, the start and end points of the measurement. eg.400-700 nm in 20nm steps.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: Henry Goh on March 21, 2008, 12:26:59 am
I'm not sure if I missed the info but when and where can I order one?
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: digitaldog on March 21, 2008, 09:21:44 am
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i watched the vid of the guy measuring the print patches and it was very quick.

i was wondering how long it was taking to do a colour measurement and at what wavelength intervals, the start and end points of the measurement. eg.400-700 nm in 20nm steps.
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Its very quick. I would say, you can measure a page in 20-30 seconds. Unlike my initial experiences doing this with the EyeOne Pro Spectrophotometer, thanks to the newer hardware and big patches, its rare you get a red outline indicating you need to measure again. Pretty fool proof.

I don't know the wavelengths or intervals but it IS based on the Isis LED technology so if you can find those spec's, it should give you a rough (or exact) idea.
Title: X-Rite launches ColorMunki
Post by: francois on March 21, 2008, 01:17:50 pm
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I'm not sure if I missed the info but when and where can I order one?
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I believe that it has just been announced.