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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: hassiman on January 31, 2008, 07:15:16 pm
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Just wondering if any has found any app or utility like Qimage in the Mac world?
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Just wondering if any has found any app or utility like Qimage in the Mac world?
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If you're running one of the Macs with an Intel chip, you could certainly process your images on the Mac side and use the PC side for Qimage to print from.
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According to the QImage Yahoo group and the QImage website, QImage will run under Parallels on an Intel Mac:
http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/ (http://www.ddisoftware.com/qimage/)
Paul
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Would one profile the monitor on the mac side and SoftProof in Mac CS3 and then send it to Qimage which would have the printer's ICC profiles... or would all color management have to be done on the Qimage (windows) side?
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It's still kind of quiet but ImageNest for the mac is about to be released. It is a great and simple image nesting and layout application with some similarities to Qimage:
http://www.bluecubit.com/ (http://www.bluecubit.com/)
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Would one profile the monitor on the mac side and SoftProof in Mac CS3 and then send it to Qimage which would have the printer's ICC profiles... or would all color management have to be done on the Qimage (windows) side?
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Since you'd be running Windows, you'd need a Windows monitor profile (your Mac would technically be invisible to the Windows OS as well as Qimage). For the same reason, you'd need Windows/PC printer profiles, because color management is, again, handled by Windows, not OS X.
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This Imagenest seems like it could be a great thing if they can = Qimage's features and quality
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This Imagenest seems like it could be a great thing if they can = Qimage's features and quality
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In reviewing the Imagenest features on the www.bluecubit.com website, there is no mention of print quality features like you would find in typical RIP software descriptions. Based on the features described, it appears that Imagenest is primarily a print layout program.
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Since you'd be running Windows, you'd need a Windows monitor profile (your Mac would technically be invisible to the Windows OS as well as Qimage).
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My two cents is that if you correct photos in PS you would not even need a monitor profile for QImage... just running my PC I never look at color in QImage... only in PS. Alan
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My two cents is that if you correct photos in PS you would not even need a monitor profile for QImage... just running my PC I never look at color in QImage... only in PS. Alan
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That is what I do as well... I do all the color correction in PS or Capture NX and save the file as a TIFF... then off to print.
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So Doing my editing and soft proofing on the Mac side in CS3 or LightZone... the sending the TIFF file to Qimage on tyhe Windows side should work?
Epson 3800 ICC profiles would of course have to be also loaded in Qimage...??
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That is what I do as well... I do all the color correction in PS or Capture NX and save the file as a TIFF... then off to print.
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Epson 3800 ICC profiles would of course have to be also loaded in Qimage...??
Yes, you will do all your color management within the program (which basically consists of choosing your profile, turning off color management in your printer driver, and while not color management, you will also choose the correct media in the driver while in Qimage). If you haven't tried the demo yet, be prepared, though Mike has altered the GUI, its still not the most intuitive program in the world LOL. There's a great support email group though.
Diane
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I am just wondering how easy it will be to run Qimage in Parallels. I had Parralels loaded (the older version 2 I think ) and I ended up never having to use it. I imagine I will not have to profile my monitor for Qimage while in Windows VM... as I am doing all mu actual color correction, editing and softproofing while in MAC.
So I just have to make sure that Qimage running in Virtual Windows can see my 3800 and has its ICC profiles..?
Yes, you will do all your color management within the program (which basically consists of choosing your profile, turning off color management in your printer driver, and while not color management, you will also choose the correct media in the driver while in Qimage). If you haven't tried the demo yet, be prepared, though Mike has altered the GUI, its still not the most intuitive program in the world LOL. There's a great support email group though.
Diane
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check this out-
http://www.bluecubit.com/ (http://www.bluecubit.com/)
from Josh Lubbers...
Tyler
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Josh,
Thanks.... I had heard of this program... I have e-mailed the developers with questions a number of times with exactly ZERO response. Not a very good start for a new product.
It looks like it could be interesting if they would tell me exactly WHAT it can do. It is not clear if it automatically interpolates and sharpens at the printer level like Qimage. The developers may not want prospective buyer to know that their program won't do that.
check this out-
http://www.bluecubit.com/ (http://www.bluecubit.com/)
from Josh Lubbers...
Tyler
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The link was from Tyler. Josh Lubbers, the man until recently behind ColorBurst, is behind ImageNest. That bodes very well for this app. It's not quite ready for release, so specific questions will have to wait a bit. I wouldn't take their silence as an indication of lack of functionality or precision.
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Sometimes something has to be posted twice before people take notice. :-]
I met with Josh at PMA this weekend and have been privy to this application for quite some time now. He and the developers are in lock down mode trying to release the 1.0 and demo versions within two weeks. Then they'll be in a better position to answer questions and such. If they answer questions now they won't get the product out the door. Of course, once the demo is available it should answer most of your questions anyway and that's the idea.
I too have asked about the interpolation issue and will respond when I find out. ImageNest is to be an affordable layout and nesting application. It utilizes OEM printers drivers and thus supports every printer that is supported on the Mac. It is not like a RIP in that it doesn't require the user to set ink limits, perform a linearization or make custom profiles. You can of course make your own profiles and use them interchangeably with any application that uses the same driver. The base calibration and screening are all handled at the driver level. ImageNest does handle the color management which as you can imagine get a bit complicated when you have lots of images in different color spaces nested on a page.
I personally see a good bit of people that buy expensive RIPs just for the nesting feature so I look forward to the possibility of being able to recommend ImageNest for it's simplicity and affordability.
Drivers used to deliver terrible color and a RIP allowed one to get far better quality out of a printer. Things have changed and drivers these days often deliver fantastic color that even some RIPs can't match. This product reflects and takes advantage of these changes and if it works well the consumer will be the big winner.
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I personally see a good bit of people that buy expensive RIPs just for the nesting feature so I look forward to the possibility of being able to recommend ImageNest for it's simplicity and affordability.
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Um it's intro price is $599 and the normal price is going to be $749 for 44" printers... I would hardly call that affordable... I can load Windows, parallels and Qimage for less than that and its a proven solution.
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check this out-
http://www.bluecubit.com/ (http://www.bluecubit.com/)
from Josh Lubbers...
Tyler
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Trying to download this gets me " under construction..." page. Is this vaporware?
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Amadou just told me about it and I thought it was relevant to the thread. I really don't know anything about it other than what is presented on that page, and the knowledge that Josh Lubbers is accomplished and respected so it's probably worth looking into.
Amadou's your guy for the latest and greatest, our man on the street!
Tyler
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Um it's intro price is $599 and the normal price is going to be $749 for 44" printers... I would hardly call that affordable... I can load Windows, parallels and Qimage for less than that and its a proven solution.
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Not as affordable as Qimage but more affordable than anything else including the RIPs I see people buying now. And some people would rather pay a little more and stay on the Mac. Educational and smaller format will be very affordable.
Trying to download this gets me " under construction..." page. Is this vaporware?
No, not even the demo is out yet. Two more weeks people. It hasn't been announced yet - they are gearing up for the release.
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Amadou just told me about it and I thought it was relevant to the thread. I really don't know anything about it other than what is presented on that page...
And if you had read this thread you would have noticed that it was already mentioned by someone else on the street who knows about it. :-]
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And if you had read this thread you would have noticed that it was already mentioned by someone else on the street who knows about it. :-]
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my apologies, a rebuff is so much more palletable with a :-] stuck on the end, eh?
Tyler
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There is a new print tool for Mac called pdq.
Take a look at their video :
http://www.colorplaza.nl/pdq/index.php?S=M&L=EN
Currently supports designjets, but they told me an Epson version is underway.
Bryan
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There is a new print tool for Mac called pdq.
Take a look at their video :
http://www.colorplaza.nl/pdq/index.php?S=M&L=EN
Currently supports designjets, but they told me an Epson version is underway.
Bryan
Good to see something for the Mac niche not filled by Qimage. Thoroughly tested on the use of V2-V4 printer profiles etc so there are no surprises?
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