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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: wtlloyd on December 22, 2007, 04:22:32 pm

Title: Irony in final words of 'Battle of the Barytas'
Post by: wtlloyd on December 22, 2007, 04:22:32 pm
So, all the fuss and thunder over ink waste when switching from photo black to matte black may now be moot? So many switched from Epson printers over this single issue (ya ya, and clogging!) and now in closing Michael states his days of using matte ink and paper may be coming to a close.

(Edit: yeesh, sorry about the name mis-spell!)
Title: Irony in final words of 'Battle of the Barytas'
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 22, 2007, 04:37:40 pm
After a zillion years of wet darkroom work making only F-surface air-dried prints (I hated matte surface prints back then), over the past few years I'v grown to like digital matte prints, especially Epson Velvet Fine Art.

I agree with Michael that the Ilford Gold Silk is the most promising of the Barytas that I've tried so far, but I'm not ready to switch back to glossy just yet.
Title: Irony in final words of 'Battle of the Barytas'
Post by: walter.sk on December 22, 2007, 06:14:48 pm
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...over the past few years I'v grown to like digital matte prints, especially Epson Velvet Fine Art.
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I saw some sample prints on the Epson White Velvet paper and liked it very much.  However, Epson does not seem to make that paper in rolls.  Do you know if this is the same paper as the Velvet Fine Art?
Title: Irony in final words of 'Battle of the Barytas'
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 22, 2007, 08:06:19 pm
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I saw some sample prints on the Epson White Velvet paper and liked it very much.  However, Epson does not seem to make that paper in rolls.  Do you know if this is the same paper as the Velvet Fine Art?
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I'm not familiar with "Epson White Velvet", and I can't find any references to it, so I can't answer.
Title: Irony in final words of 'Battle of the Barytas'
Post by: walter.sk on December 23, 2007, 08:17:05 am
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I'm not familiar with "Epson White Velvet", and I can't find any references to it, so I can't answer.
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My bad!  The White Velvet name was from Hahnemuhle.  Epson has Somerset Velvet and Fine Art Velvet, the latter of which is not made in rolls.  I did like the Epson Fine Art Velvet, in Epson's sample book, but they didn't have an example of a photo printed on their Somerset Velvet.  Apparently, they are different papers, and I'm reluctant to try a roll based on what I saw from the Velvet Fine Art paper.
Title: Irony in final words of 'Battle of the Barytas'
Post by: rdonson on December 23, 2007, 10:25:38 am
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After a zillion years of wet darkroom work making only F-surface air-dried prints (I hated matte surface prints back then), over the past few years I'v grown to like digital matte prints, especially Epson Velvet Fine Art.

I agree with Michael that the Ilford Gold Silk is the most promising of the Barytas that I've tried so far, but I'm not ready to switch back to glossy just yet.
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I'm with you, Eric.  I enjoyed my F-surface air dried prints and I'm glad that we now have the opportunity with inkjets to revisit those style of prints.  I'm not ready to abandon all the matte papers I've come to enjoy with inkjet printing just because we can recreate F-type.  I have a lot of images that I think look best on matte paper.