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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: rueyloon on October 18, 2007, 08:28:25 am

Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: rueyloon on October 18, 2007, 08:28:25 am: hello

hi, I've been reading up on this lens and realised that there seems to be 2 version, does the digitar version comes in XL and non XL ? what are the difference ? is there alot of difference in the image circle ?

thanks
Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: schaubild on October 18, 2007, 09:36:45 am: Quote
hello

hi, I've been reading up on this lens and realised that there seems to be 2 version, does the digitar version comes in XL and non XL ? what are the difference ? is there alot of difference in the image circle ?

thanks
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Can you give an example where a lens is offered as XL and non XL?

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Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: rueyloon on October 18, 2007, 10:44:17 am: Quote
Can you give an example where a lens is offered as XL and non XL?

http://www.schneider-kreuznach.de/foto_e/dig1/dig1.htm (http://www.schneider-kreuznach.de/foto_e/dig1/dig1.htm)
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the one from that link I assume is the non XL because the image circle is 70mm
somewhere you'll read that there is another version with a 90mm image circle.
Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: rueyloon on October 18, 2007, 10:45:48 am: Quote
the one from that link I assume is the non XL because the image circle is 70mm
somewhere you'll read that there is another version with a 90mm image circle.
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some of the lens has 88degrees written on it, the others has 105degrees on it....
guess you understand why I'm confused.
Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: pixjohn on October 18, 2007, 02:15:44 pm: Old and New.

The new lens has a bigger image circle then the older version.
Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: rueyloon on October 18, 2007, 11:17:03 pm: Quote
Old and New.

The new lens has a bigger image circle then the older version.
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how "strict" are the image circle given ? I keep reading that the real image circle is bigger. Anyone with any experience with either 2 of this lenses ? or at least the old one ? how much usable shift is there for a 44mm by 33mm sensor ? yes I can do the math, but what is the "usable" shift ? Guess if I can get about 20mm shift it should be fine.
Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: pixjohn on October 19, 2007, 03:59:53 am: I have the newer lens and never go past 10mm shift vertical and 5mm horizontal. I can say I have never had any problems.
Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: rueyloon on October 19, 2007, 06:22:58 am: Quote
I have the newer lens and never go past 10mm shift vertical and 5mm horizontal. I can say I have never had any problems.
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hi, you don't go pass that range because you don't need to ? or because the quality drops too much ?

if the 90mm image circle only allows you 10 and 5, the 70mm circle is going to be worthless for shifting....
Title: 35mm schneider digitar XL or no XL ?
Post by: MattLaver on October 19, 2007, 08:35:48 am: I regularly go to 15 mm either way without issues on my 35 XL Digitar. I haven't tried the non XL so I can't comment there.

Matt