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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Colour Management => Topic started by: francescogola on November 21, 2021, 11:10:54 am

Title: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: francescogola on November 21, 2021, 11:10:54 am
Hello guys,
Does anybody have successful experience in calibrating the new MiniLED retina display of the brand new M1 Apple MacBook Pro?
I've read that so far the available software (for me ccProfile) is not yet able to understand well that panel technology and so the result is always quite inaccurate, or in any case, leaving it with the factory calibration and profile is right now the best option.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: GWGill on November 21, 2021, 11:57:37 pm
There seem to be a long thread on macrumors.com (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/cant-calibrate-new-xdr-macbook-pro-display-missing-color-button-calibration-option.2319627/) that is worth looking through.
Title: Re: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: francescogola on November 22, 2021, 09:52:33 am
Thanks!
So it's confirmed, not so easy  :'(
Title: Re: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: ghostwind on November 23, 2021, 01:26:20 am
You can't yet, but you can fine tune the presets by following this technique.

https://youtu.be/bqF_SQWv8x0

Title: Re: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: Czornyj on November 24, 2021, 12:21:16 pm
You can't yet, but you can fine tune the presets by following this technique.

https://youtu.be/bqF_SQWv8x0

1) I'd leave it as is - knowing Apple it's properly factory calibrated and profiled

2) If you still want to make calibration, use DisplayCAL and choose "LCD PFS Phosphor WLED" family (see attached screenshot)

3) If you still want to use i1Profiler / ccProfiler
- go to i1D3 Calibrations folder with .edr spectral calibrations (see attached screenshot)
- copy Panasonic VVX17P051J00.edr name and delete or move the file out of Calibrations folder (it sucks anyway)
- put PFS_Phosphor_Family_31Jan17.edr file into Calibrations folder and change its name to Panasonic VVX17P051J00.edr
here's the file:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/1u52zxk91v327b4/PFS_Phosphor_Family_31Jan17.edr?dl=0
- calibrate the Macbook choosing PFS W-LED, it will now use corrected PFS characterisation
Title: Re: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: digitaldog on November 24, 2021, 12:31:51 pm
1) I'd leave it as is - knowing Apple it's properly factory calibrated and profiled
+1. I do the same for my MacBook Pro (circa 2019) and rarely use that display expect on location. Otherwise, I'm using an external display (PA271Q) for editing images.
Title: Re: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: Czornyj on January 03, 2022, 09:52:00 am
Update: I also got myself MBP 16 M1 - you can't profile it, you can calibrate it using fine-tune calibration feature, but just like I thought it's not needed. Out of the box it's as accurate as display for color critical applications, you just use factory defaults or set a calibration target in preferences.

You can choose P3, sRGB, PAL or NTSC color gamut, D50, D65, DCI or custom white point, BT.1886, sRGB or gamma TRC, SDR and HDR brightness, and it achieves it very precisely.

The display is perfectly uniform (max. 2∆E00 error), has perfect anti-reflex coating, insane blacks, and jaw-dropping HDR at peak 1600cd/m^2 as expected.
Title: Re: Calibrating and profiling the new MacBook Pro Liquid Retina XDR (MiniLED)
Post by: GWGill on July 03, 2023, 09:22:25 pm
You can choose P3, sRGB, PAL or NTSC color gamut, D50, D65, DCI or custom white point, BT.1886, sRGB or gamma TRC, SDR and HDR brightness, and it achieves it very precisely.
I can't understand why you would want to choose some other gamut if you are using color management.

The whole point of doing color management properly is to make the full gamut of the output device available, so that multiple source can be displayed simultaneously with maximum fidelity.

It almost seems like Apple have forgotten how color management works...