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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: Rajan Parrikar on July 24, 2021, 06:25:46 am
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Tony has just made available a new set of profiles.
https://tonykuyper.wordpress.com/2021/07/23/the-linear-profile-a-new-beginning-in-light-room-and-camera-raw/
PS: My first impressions - On bodies where I have custom profiles made using the ColorChecker Passport, the advantage seemed less obvious and on the examples I ran, the custom profiles gave a quicker path to the final destination. On camera bodies I did not have custom profiles for, Tony's profiles did well. (Pace Tony, I would not recommend using Auto as a starting point.)
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Interesting, and thanks for the info. I just installed Kuyper's linear profiles for my 7D, and will be working with them over the next few days. Easy enough to change them in either LR or PS, so it's a no-loss experiment.
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Yet another "Solution" in search of a problem.
Under the text: Advantages of linear profiles: I see mostly assumptions and a lack of proof of concept.
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Yet another "Solution" in search of a problem.
Under the text: Advantages of linear profiles: I see mostly assumptions and a lack of proof of concept.
The proof is in the eating of the pudding. On the examples I tried, his profiles work better for highlight recovery on those bodies I didn't have a custom profile for. For my custom profiles with the standard gamma curve, I see little advantage. As Tony himself has noted, it is possible to get to your goal with any of the profiles in there. Just takes more work.
Kuyper has indeed solved problems - his TK panel is an outstanding piece of work.
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No: highlights are affected solely by exposure (and that is solely an attribute of the amount of light striking the sensor through only Aperture and Shutter).
Highlight “recovery” from the ACR engine “works” (somewhat) only if one or two channels of the raw data is not clipped; so expose correctly and ideally and it's moot and provide superior data and rendering.
I do recognize that *some* photographers are unable to ideally expose their raws and might feel highlight “recovery” and profiles are their “fix” to a fundamental part of photography sadly.
“There seems to be some perverse human characteristic that likes to make easy things difficult.” -Warren Buffett
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Under the text: Advantages of linear profiles: I see mostly assumptions and a lack of proof of concept.
My impression too.
This "Advantage" was enough for me to go away:
“Expose-to-the-right” has greater potential since applying a linear profile darkens the image.
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My impression too.
This "Advantage" was enough for me to go away:
Indeed, seems he's got some misunderstandings of both optimal exposure, its effect on the actual raw data, and what profiles actually do with that data.
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FYI: Anthony Morganti has a youtube video on linear profiles. View it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLtubEw-xU&list=WL&index=10
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FYI: Anthony Morganti has a youtube video on linear profiles. View it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLtubEw-xU&list=WL&index=10
Wow, with the world filled with political and Covid-19 misinformation, do we really need this?
Within the first 2.5 minute's of the video, this guy has already provided numerous misunderstandings about DCP profiles.
Want to go into those silly, assumed ideas provided in just the first 2 minutes? I stopped viewing after that.
Sorry, this fellow hasn't a clue about what profiles (excuses me, 'camera profiles'), actually DCP profile are, do, and affect.
The first 2 minutes of this video is nonsense.
And now I'll have to cross post the above, since folks here deserve to know!
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FYI: Anthony Morganti has a youtube video on linear profiles. View it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9CLtubEw-xU&list=WL&index=10
Thanks, Bob. I'm having fun exploring the possibilities.
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And now I'll have to cross post the above, since folks here deserve to know!
Andrew, do you have a video or online essay explaining this subject in detail with the correct information?
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Andrew, do you have a video or online essay explaining this subject in detail with the correct information?
On Linear DCP profiles? No.
On DCP profiles: absolutely.
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Tony's repository for linear profiles is growing. He has now added profiles for some DJI drones.
https://goodlight.us/linear-profiles.html
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Thanks for sharing this! For a beginner like me, it is very easy to understand and to use. However, I have still more to learn. Plus, I want to take some writing courses because it is very difficult for me to express my ideas clearly and also to develop them. Plus, I make many mistakes, but I always use an editing service that I have chosen after reading a lot of reviews and the Polished Paper reviews indeed (https://www.topessayediting.com/reviews/polished-paper/). Wish me luck!
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Thanks for sharing this! For a beginner like me, it is very easy to understand and to use. However, I have still more to learn. Plus, I want to take some writing courses because it is very difficult for me to express my ideas clearly and also to develop them. Plus, I make many mistakes, but I always use an editing service that I have chosen after reading a lot of reviews and the Polished Paper reviews indeed (https://www.topessayediting.com/reviews/polished-paper/) indeed. Wish me luck!
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Thanks for sharing this! For a beginner like me, it is very easy to understand and to use. However, I have still more to learn. Plus, I want to take some writing courses because it is very difficult for me to express my ideas clearly and also to develop them. Plus, I make many mistakes, but I always use an editing service that I have chosen after reading a lot of reviews and the Polished Paper reviews indeed (https://www.topessayediting.com/reviews/polished-paper/). Wish me luck!
Thanks for sharing this! For a beginner like me, it is very easy to understand and to use. However, I have still more to learn. Plus, I want to take some writing courses because it is very difficult for me to express my ideas clearly and also to develop them. Plus, I make many mistakes, but I always use an editing service that I have chosen after reading a lot of reviews and the Polished Paper reviews indeed. Wish me luck!
I'll alert the site owner to these two spammers.
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I'll alert the site owner to these two spammers.
Yes, I did the same last week, but no action yet :-(
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Fortunately, neither of these fictitious entities appear to be very ambitious in their posting activities on this forum... or very bright.
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neither of these fictitious entities appear to be very ambitious in their posting activities on this forum
It's not necessarily about spam postings, the bots could also be harvesting other data.
Most disappointing is the lack of action from any moderators. Once spammers were kicked out and deleted the same day of a report.
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On Linear DCP profiles? No.
On DCP profiles: absolutely.
about sharing...
could you share your take on DCP profiles?
something else:
Is there a good reason Adobe does not support the RAW of the Nikon Z9 in older versions of LR ( 32 bits 10.4-mojave)
really love my 32bits programs
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about sharing...
could you share your take on DCP profiles?
Everything you thought you wanted to know about DNG/DCP camera profiles:
All about In this 30 minute video, we will look into the creation and use of DNG (.dcp) camera profiles in three raw converters. The video covers:
What are DNG camera profiles, how do they differ from ICC camera profiles.
Misconceptions about DNG camera profiles.
Just when, and why do you need to build custom DNG camera profiles?
How to build custom DNG camera profiles using the X-rite Passport software.
The role of various illuminants on camera sensors and DNG camera profiles.
Dual Illuminant DNG camera profiles.
Examples of usage of DNG camera profiles in Lightroom, ACR, and Iridient Developer.
Low Rez (YouTube):
http://youtu.be/_fikTm8XIt4
High Rez (download):
http://www.digitaldog.net/files/DNG%20Camera%20profile%20video.mov
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Everything you thought you wanted to know about DNG/DCP camera profiles:
All about In this 30 minute video, we will look into the creation and use of DNG (.dcp) camera profiles in three raw converters.....
OK thanks!
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Is there a good reason Adobe does not support the RAW of the Nikon Z9 in older versions of LR ( 32 bits 10.4-mojave)
really love my 32bits programs
The support from Adobe for new cameras raw formats in older software is through Adobe DNG Converter
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Is there a good reason Adobe does not support the RAW of the Nikon Z9 in older versions of LR ( 32 bits 10.4-mojave)
What versions are you referring to? Even LR5 is 64-bit.
The installer isn't, but the application is.
But yeah, older versions without 'native' support for proprietary raws, convert to DNG.
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What versions are you referring to? Even LR5 is 64-bit.
The installer isn't, but the application is.
But yeah, older versions without 'native' support for proprietary raws, convert to DNG.
...then the Adobe DNG converter that will make a DNG from a Nikon Z9 NEF won't work either on Mojave....(OSX10.4; 24 september 2018 was its release)
(and probably LR10.5 will not read this DNG...)
All these inventions in software and hardware only cost money and make computers worthless after 5 years...
It is a bad thing: especially Apple re-invents the wheel every year ( to make things worse like connections, keyboards.... etc ... etc)
People who archive the digital Apple stuff and documents will get crazy....MS does a better job i am sure...
I look at my Aluminium macbook from 2008 to see how well it still works and how really litle has changed in design and usefulness.
i can even put new stuff in! like a battery.... Apple will re-invent that too - saving the planet as they want to... presenting it as new ... again...
Back to the future...!
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All these inventions in software and hardware only cost money and make computers worthless after 5 years...
"All generalizations are false, including this one." -Mark Twain
I've got a 2019 MacBook Pro, running the latest version of MacOS and I can still run LR5. Hardly worthless in this one case.
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"All generalizations are false, including this one." -Mark Twain
I've got a 2019 MacBook Pro, running the latest version of MacOS and I can still run LR5. Hardly worthless in this one case.
All generalizations are false, including this one...
All generalizations are false, including this one....
All generalizations are false, including this one.....
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Clearly Mark Twain did not have an Apple...
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All generalizations are false, including this one...
All generalizations are false, including this one....
All generalizations are false, including this one.....
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Clearly Mark Twain did not have an Apple...
I'm sorry if I offended you with my facts about LR, DNGs along with Twain's common sense. ;)