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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Adobe Lightroom Q&A => Topic started by: Steve48 on August 16, 2020, 02:41:30 pm

Title: Recommended order for camera calibration, white balance and profile selection
Post by: Steve48 on August 16, 2020, 02:41:30 pm
I can predict that someone will say that order doesn't matter because Lightroom is a parametric editor. However, I think the results will differ visually depending
on the order of these adjustments. Is there a recommended workflow?
Title: Re: Recommended order for camera calibration, white balance and profile selection
Post by: digitaldog on August 16, 2020, 05:32:42 pm
The PROCESSING order is fixed so it doesn't matter.
The order you end up getting the results you want can matter.
Generally speaking, working top down is what Adobe recommends for the user order. They (Adobe) will process the edits in the best order.
I'd pick the camera profile, then WB but WB is a totally separate (by design) edit as camera profiles are WB agnostic by design.
Title: Re: Recommended order for camera calibration, white balance and profile selection
Post by: Steve48 on August 16, 2020, 06:23:42 pm
what about calibration (at the bottom). When is that done if you are going to do it?
Title: Re: Recommended order for camera calibration, white balance and profile selection
Post by: digitaldog on August 16, 2020, 06:58:32 pm
Calibration predates DCP camera profiles. I never use it. But you absolutely can with profiles if you find the controls there are useful for rendering an image.
Title: Re: Recommended order for camera calibration, white balance and profile selection
Post by: DP on August 16, 2020, 06:59:56 pm
I can predict that someone will say that order doesn't matter because Lightroom is a parametric editor. However, I think the results will differ visually depending
on the order of these adjustments. Is there a recommended workflow?

certainly the order of how Adobe recalculates things is always fixed inside the code : WB calculation is done by Adobe is using a number of matrices from DCP profile selected (see DNG specs, for example https://www.adobe.com/content/dam/acom/en/products/photoshop/pdfs/dng_spec_1.5.0.0.pdf ) - so WB is naturally after the profile selection and camera calibration naturally adjusts the matrices from DCP profile so that is too after profile selection and because WB is calculated using those matrices that one can assume goes before WB ... so Profile -> Calibration -> WB
Title: Re: Recommended order for camera calibration, white balance and profile selection
Post by: DP on August 16, 2020, 07:01:42 pm
Calibration predates DCP camera profiles.
predates in the sense it existed when camera profiles (matrix profiles) were hardcoded in ACR code (before introduction of external DCP profiles) - they are still there - remove all DCP profiles and ACR will revert to use those in the code ...
Title: Re: Recommended order for camera calibration, white balance and profile selection
Post by: Steve48 on August 17, 2020, 08:34:51 am
People use the calibration sliders for artistic color adjustments. I would think it best to set a neutral profile for doing this. Probably set wb first as well.