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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: soboyle on August 06, 2020, 10:15:19 am

Title: Epson 7570
Post by: soboyle on August 06, 2020, 10:15:19 am
I'm in the market for a 24" printer, have been researching HP, Canon and Epson 24" printers. Reading the posts here about the Epson 7570, it sounds like, after much difficulty and wasted paper and ink, the printer is working as expected with the latest firmware. I haven't settled on a printer yet, but have always used Epson 17" printers, so I tend to lean that way when looking for a new printer.

One question I have is about their claim that "automatic maintenance can check nozzle health without using any ink, assuring the best print quality time after time". Any insight about how this works without pushing ink through the head, and how effective it is?

It's relatively early days for this printer, but any consensus about head clogging and how this printer rates in this regard? It's my only hesitation with this printer, having suffered it with every 17" Epson printer I've owned. I'll be a single user printing my own work, not a commercial shop using it every day. If I understand it right, the HP Z9+ wakes up and does automatic head maintenance. It's one of several reasons it's high on my list. If Epson's "automatic maintenance" can do an equivalent job without using ink, then it might seal the deal. But my guess is that I will have to do manual daily or weekly printing or nozzle checks with the 7570 just to keep it in good form.
Title: Re: Epson 7570
Post by: Rand47 on August 07, 2020, 10:03:01 am
I'm in the market for a 24" printer, have been researching HP, Canon and Epson 24" printers. Reading the posts here about the Epson 7570, it sounds like, after much difficulty and wasted paper and ink, the printer is working as expected with the latest firmware. I haven't settled on a printer yet, but have always used Epson 17" printers, so I tend to lean that way when looking for a new printer.

One question I have is about their claim that "automatic maintenance can check nozzle health without using any ink, assuring the best print quality time after time". Any insight about how this works without pushing ink through the head, and how effective it is?

It's relatively early days for this printer, but any consensus about head clogging and how this printer rates in this regard? It's my only hesitation with this printer, having suffered it with every 17" Epson printer I've owned. I'll be a single user printing my own work, not a commercial shop using it every day. If I understand it right, the HP Z9+ wakes up and does automatic head maintenance. It's one of several reasons it's high on my list. If Epson's "automatic maintenance" can do an equivalent job without using ink, then it might seal the deal. But my guess is that I will have to do manual daily or weekly printing or nozzle checks with the 7570 just to keep it in good form.

I’ve had my SC P7570 since first shipped in late February and can confirm that after working pretty extensively with Epson Advanced Tech Support that the printer is vey much “ready for prime time” now.  It is a joy to use and produces the finest prints I’ve ever made.  The new scheme of using the Epson Media Installer introduces a small learning curve, but once accustomed to the concept it is actually quite nice.  It’s become a real pleasure for me to choose 3rd party papers by their proper names, and to be able to tweak paper settings easily and have them be sticky in the printer.

As to the self-maintenance it does, I have no idea how it does what it does.  There’s nothing in the user guide that explains.  But I can report that every so often at the completion of a print, the printer goes into a short 3 minute (or so) routine (it alerts you to this on the LCD panel).  On one occasion, after this cycle, the LCD indicated that there was still a clogged nozzle and it went through a second cycle (on its own).  I’ve had zero image quality issues due to clogged nozzles.  I will sometimes go as long as a week w/o making a print and have never had an issue.  I do keep the humidity in my print studio within the ideal parameters and I keep the printer covered when not in use (Digital Deck Covers).

In the past Epson printers have been clog prone, for sure.  My 4880 was a pain in the posterior to keep unclogged.  The light magenta in particular was always clogging.  But my last three Epson’s (the 7570, P 5000, and P 600) have all been pretty much clog free and quite reliable.

Rand
Title: Re: Epson 7570
Post by: soboyle on August 07, 2020, 10:45:03 am
Thanks Rand,
I read through your posts about the printer and glad to hear it is now working well. The price on the P7570 has dropped I think, now priced the same as the P7000, so an additional incentive to get the latest Epson technology.
I'll have to read up on the Epson Media Installer to see how that works.
Title: Re: Epson 7570
Post by: I.T. Supplies on August 09, 2020, 01:06:03 pm
All current printers (from the start of the Epson P series) use a little ink to confirm nozzles are firing properly.  If the printer detects an issue, than it will do a cleaning process and push more ink through until it passes properly (if it fixes it that way).  So far, we haven't heard any major problems from customers regarding bad clogs and with the ability to clean the head and cap section, this should offer a better ability to maintain it over time.

Canon and HP's head technology is the same; but of course, they set it up different where HP has multiple heads (usually 2 per color) where Canon has a single head for all colors in the Pro series.

Canon and HP have been doing very well on the clogging solution over Epson (per many of their previous models), but Epson is finally catching up on that part to make the cleaning easier.

We've dealt with basically all models since the manufacturers launch them and have reviews of many on our YouTube channel as well as the different features.
https://www.youtube.com/user/ITSuppliesINC/videos  There about 4 videos on the Px570

The price has indeed dropped on the 7570 to the P7000 as this may be where Epson may be discontinuing the P6/7/8/9000 at some point since the P6000 was stated as being on back order until early 2021 per Epson; but the pandemic is also slowing production on many items at the same time.

IT Supplies
Title: Re: Epson 7570
Post by: TeamG on August 10, 2020, 05:48:51 pm
I've only had my 7560 (Australia) since late June but can report it has sat for about a week or two between prints sometimes and I haven't had any clogs.  I will always do a head check before printing and it's fine.  Only once since I got her has the big beautiful woman in my life done a head clean on her own