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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Capture One Q&A => Topic started by: BernardLanguillier on January 22, 2020, 03:30:43 pm

Title: c1 Pro 20 new black setting
Post by: BernardLanguillier on January 22, 2020, 03:30:43 pm
Is plain great!

The degree of fine tuning it affords ton the deep blacks is clearly by far my favorite feature in C1 Pro 20.

Just loving it. Well done Phaseone!

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: Re: c1 Pro 20 new black setting
Post by: bcf on January 24, 2020, 10:42:35 am
Bernard, could you expand on what you said… that's interesting!
Title: Re: c1 Pro 20 new black setting
Post by: BernardLanguillier on January 26, 2020, 08:31:42 pm
Bernard, could you expand on what you said… that's interesting!

The shadow tool is pretty heavy handed in how it raises the level of the dark tones, which can result in a perception of a lack of contrast in the images.

On the other hand, the new black tool is much more subtle and can help provide a feel for non blocked shadows while preserving a nice feel of a contrasty image.

Cheers,
Bernard
Title: Re: c1 Pro 20 new black setting
Post by: bcf on January 27, 2020, 05:28:23 am
OK, I understand what you meant.
Yes, the behaviour of the Black and Shadow sliders in C1 is quite différent from what it is in Lightroom.
Title: Re: c1 Pro 20 new black setting
Post by: IanSeward on January 27, 2020, 07:02:36 am
OK, I understand what you meant.
Yes, the behaviour of the Black and Shadow sliders in C1 is quite different from what it is in Lightroom.

In LR the Black and White sliders are used to set the Black and White point.  In C1 you use the Levels tool, as in most image editors. LR does not have Levels capability, hence the need for dedicated sliders

You can automate the Levels tool in C1 which speeds things up as for normal images you normally want to set the Black and White points early on in the edit process.
Title: Re: c1 Pro 20 new black setting
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on January 27, 2020, 07:30:48 am
In LR the Black and White sliders are used to set the Black and White point.  In C1 you use the Levels tool, as in most image editors. LR does not have Levels capability, hence the need for dedicated sliders

You can automate the Levels tool in C1 which speeds things up as for normal images you normally want to set the Black and White points early on in the edit process.

Yes, an important distinction. In C1 the Levels tool sets the Blackpoint and Whitepoint.

The new 'Black' and 'White' sliders in C1's HDR tool affect the contrast in the darkest and lightest range of tones only.