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The Art of Photography => Street Showcase => Topic started by: Todd Suttles on December 17, 2019, 09:58:39 pm

Title: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Todd Suttles on December 17, 2019, 09:58:39 pm
C&C appreciated, thanks, -/t
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: langier on December 17, 2019, 11:18:49 pm
Crop off the half-man in green on the right and it will improve the composition. Also, straighten out the skewed wall just to his left. You can open the image or the raw file in ACR and improve the geometry pretty easily and that may (or may not) improve the image, also.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 18, 2019, 06:05:19 am
Crop off the half-man in green on the right and it will improve the composition. Also, straighten out the skewed wall just to his left. You can open the image or the raw file in ACR and improve the geometry pretty easily and that may (or may not) improve the image, also.
That's pretty much what I was thinking.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: RSL on December 18, 2019, 07:32:54 am
The croppers are out in force. It's a fine street shot just as it is, Todd. Leave it alone. You're getting advice on street from landscapers.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: degrub on December 18, 2019, 10:46:03 am
What is going on with the out of focus areas , motion blur ? or is this a wide open fast lens that has a "busy"  bokeh ?
What was done with sharpening ?
My eyes find it painful to look away from the "in focus" visual interaction between the couple, the massage lady, and the guy.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 18, 2019, 02:57:45 pm
Crop off the half-man in green on the right and it will improve the composition. Also, straighten out the skewed wall just to his left. You can open the image or the raw file in ACR and improve the geometry pretty easily and that may (or may not) improve the image, also.

Sound advice.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Todd Suttles on December 19, 2019, 06:00:00 pm
Crop off the half-man in green on the right and it will improve the composition. Also, straighten out the skewed wall just to his left. You can open the image or the raw file in ACR and improve the geometry pretty easily and that may (or may not) improve the image, also.
What is going on with the out of focus areas , motion blur ? or is this a wide open fast lens that has a "busy"  bokeh ?
What was done with sharpening ?
My eyes find it painful to look away from the "in focus" visual interaction between the couple, the massage lady, and the guy.
  This image has been re-edited and re-cropped to 4:5. There is little sharpening done in this one. The previous image had more noise removal and more sharpening. It was shot w\ canon 5D MIV; 24-70mm f4 canon lens; 1/400@f4.5 at 70mm; hand held and cropped down.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 19, 2019, 07:36:28 pm
Demonstrably a better image.  Nice work.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: RSL on December 19, 2019, 07:43:27 pm
 :'(
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Todd Suttles on December 19, 2019, 09:06:06 pm
:'(
I've not decided yet. I did like the my eye movement between the green outfit, the green shirt and the green in the alligator sign; it kept me circling around inside the image. I am going to fix the sharpening and post it as original cropped to get feedback on that as well.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: degrub on December 19, 2019, 09:15:02 pm
 :D
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: RSL on December 20, 2019, 09:29:13 am
Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a street shot. Color rarely has anything to do with the success of street. Here's the basic shot in all its glory. It's a good one. The action is right there with the two people walking briskly toward the camera. But it needs the action at the right edge of the frame to show that it's a snapshot that caught the central action in midst of general visual confusion.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Todd Suttles on December 20, 2019, 09:55:08 am
Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a street shot. Color rarely has anything to do with the success of street. Here's the basic shot in all its glory. It's a good one. The action is right there with the two people walking briskly toward the camera. But it needs the action at the right edge of the frame to show that it's a snapshot that caught the central action in midst of general visual confusion.
got it!!!!!  Thank you for breaking it down for me. This is very helpful Russ. I see the difference. appreciate! -t
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 20, 2019, 12:37:57 pm
Partial agreement, Russ.  The monochrome treatment substantially diminishes the distracting element at frame right.
I'd like to see a monochrome version of the crop.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 20, 2019, 01:56:55 pm
Let's not lose sight of the fact that this is a street shot. Color rarely has anything to do with the success of street. Here's the basic shot in all its glory. It's a good one. The action is right there with the two people walking briskly toward the camera.

How can you tell they're walking "briskly", Russ? And doesn't the girl's eyes being closed detract from the shot?

Jeremy
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: RSL on December 20, 2019, 03:47:56 pm
You're right, Jeremy. They're probably dawdling (briskly). Looks to me as if the girl's eyes have heavy false eyelashes, but I can't see that her eyes are closed.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 20, 2019, 04:47:28 pm
I think her eyes are open.  I don't think she would turn her head to the side unless she were looking at something (with slightly open eyes.)
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: degrub on December 21, 2019, 07:39:59 am
That's the "ain't i something" look and walk  ;D
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 21, 2019, 07:41:49 am
I think her eyes are open.  I don't think she would turn her head to the side unless she were looking at something (with slightly open eyes.)

If she's been caught mid-blink, as it looks to me, they'll be closed.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: RSL on December 21, 2019, 08:07:00 am
If that's true, Todd may have to go back and re-shoot the picture.  8)
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: rabanito on December 22, 2019, 01:20:33 am
It looks to me that the girl is looking away and the man is also not happy at being photographed.
People around are also looking on the scene.
But you say that in America as soon as you hit the street you're free wild so it shouldn't matter. Am I wrong?  ;D
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: RSL on December 22, 2019, 07:30:40 am
When you're out on a public right of way, Rab, you have no expectation of privacy. I realize that in Europe nowadays the governments think that if you're out in a crowd you have an expectation of privacy, silly as that seems. You can read all about it here: http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm. Krages is an attorney who's also a photographer.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: rabanito on December 22, 2019, 10:15:40 am
When you're out on a public right of way, Rab, you have no expectation of privacy. I realize that in Europe nowadays the governments think that if you're out in a crowd you have an expectation of privacy, silly as that seems. You can read all about it here: http://www.krages.com/phoright.htm. Krages is an attorney who's also a photographer.

Thank you Russ, very interesting. I've read also the articles on French and UK rules, which are more like those I'm acquainted with.

As for silliness, I cannot judge, these are very different cultures as it seems. I couldn't say one is better than the other.
You get used to live in one and expect mutual respect following their ways.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: RSL on December 22, 2019, 10:23:20 am
Youíre right, of course, Rab. Cultures vary. Iíve been fortunate enough to have been exposed to several besides the United States, all in Asia. But what really bugs me is that France, birthplace and home of Henri Cartier-Bresson would let this happen. HCB showed all of us the beauty and significance of human interrelationships through his street photography. Again, youíre right. Itís not silliness, itís tragedy.
Title: Re: Royal Street Stroll, New Orleans, 2019
Post by: Todd Suttles on December 22, 2019, 12:54:44 pm
That's the "ain't i something" look and walk  ;D
Yes, she became aware of the camera just prior to that point. If it had been video there would have been a turn, chin lift, return to face camera, and look down the nose. LOL  ...and a bit more fancy prance.