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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Steve Hendrix on September 05, 2019, 10:17:24 am

Title: Alpa 12 Pano Announcement and More News
Post by: Steve Hendrix on September 05, 2019, 10:17:24 am
Not to be outdone by all the other events in the camera world, Alpa today announced a new camera, a pretty interesting one, the Alpa 12 Pano.

For those who mourned the demise of the XY, with its mega movements, it partially absolves that burn, but does so in a more compact package.

There also are now new grips for the Alpa 12 Plus, and a 90º Pentaprism Spirit Level. Also, the XO skeleton for the GFX 100 has become a Kickstarter campaign.

Always nice to see new developments from the Alpa team.

https://captureintegration.com/hot-alpa-news-alpa-12-pano-and-more/ (https://captureintegration.com/hot-alpa-news-alpa-12-pano-and-more/)


Steve Hendrix/CI
Title: Re: Alpa 12 Pano Announcement and More News
Post by: Mexecutioner on September 05, 2019, 11:29:56 am
Steve,

There is an issue with the link you posted:

404 - Not Found :(

Title: Re: Alpa 12 Pano Announcement and More News
Post by: Mexecutioner on September 05, 2019, 11:31:12 am
I found it through the C1 Blog:

https://captureintegration.com/hot-alpa-news-alpa-12-pano-and-more/

That one works.

Title: Re: Alpa 12 Pano Announcement and More News
Post by: Steve Hendrix on September 05, 2019, 12:02:48 pm
Steve,

There is an issue with the link you posted:

404 - Not Found :(


Vexed again by the URL Demons.

Thanks, fixed.

Title: Re: Alpa 12 Pano Announcement and More News
Post by: Waker on September 05, 2019, 03:07:13 pm
An Alpa Max used 'on its side' (Alpa's can be used in any direction)  gives you 25mm+ 18mm, with 18/18 rise/fall, so that's pretty competitive to the new 'pano' body with 35+35, and 10/10.  Much less width but more height/rise, so less 'panoramic', but better if you want 2:3 or 3:4 ratio as the final format. Or need to get the top of that building in..!  But if you love Pano's then this is a great body.

Not sure what top level digital lenses cover the pano's reach - the 90mm HRSW maybe ($9500+) and the 138mm HRSW ($12,500+)?!

Isn't hard vignetting from the lens cone an issue here? Alpa has a pretty small aperture for such a big image circle.


Title: Re: Alpa 12 Pano Announcement and More News
Post by: Paul2660 on September 05, 2019, 04:19:59 pm
All Rodenstocks, have a IC edge indicator built in, at least all of mine do.  Maybe something they finally decided to quit using. But with any current Rodenstock, as soon as near the outer edge of the IC you hit the indicator with a hard black vignette.  With some Rodenstocks, before you get to the black edge you pick up a reciprocal white edge, easily done on the 28HR. 

The longer lenses have larger IC's so they may benefit from this new camera, but as pointed out at huge cost in glass.

Makes just as much sense to use modern software, and a 40 HR-W or similar lens, in portrait mode, panning across a scene, then stitch together later on.  Sure nothing beats shifting the back, no parallax, but most outdoor scenes easily work together with the advanced in software over the past 3 years. 

Also the longer glass with have more DOF issues, so depending on your scene location, you may need multiple shots with focus bracketing to get the nearest most object in good focus.  But they also have the largest IC's for cameras like this that can take advantage of them.

Paul C