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The Art of Photography => Discussing Photographic Styles => Topic started by: Rob C on July 13, 2019, 09:39:05 am
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LALtLUjSeJs
Rob
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A marvelous find, Rob. Did he convince you about the incredible advantages of digital cameras over film?
The most interesting thing is that this is a guy who understands what makes you go out on the street and that people are the only really important reason to pick up a camera.
I loved it.
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A marvelous find, Rob. Did he convince you about the incredible advantages of digital cameras over film?
The most interesting thing is that this is a guy who understands what makes you go out on the street and that people are the only really important reason to pick up a camera.
I loved it.
I think that the film/digital question really comes down to an "it depends".
Insofar as the matter of subjects: for me, without a doubt it's about people, and hence my frustrations on that topic. Yet, I guess we have to do the best with what our cards give us at the time, or just stop, which appears to be where I'm at right now.
Rob
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Up until a few years ago people didn't play any part in my little world of photography, now they're central.
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Up until a few years ago people didn't play any part in my little world of photography, now they're central.
A question, then: given the opportunity to do both, health etc. no problem, would you choose one over the other or try to combine both types of work? Or, is it a Damascene Moment, a mental change of gears with no reverse in the box?
Rob
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A question, then: given the opportunity to do both, health etc. no problem, would you choose one over the other or try to combine both types of work? Or, is it a Damascene Moment, a mental change of gears with no reverse in the box?
Rob
Rob, people are central because that's where I would like them to be. But the reality is that the various disciplines - people, place, architecture - have melded.
Unfortunately the opportunities to shoot in the locations that appeal are limited.
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Rob, people are central because that's where I would like them to be. But the reality is that the various disciplines - people, place, architecture - have melded.
Unfortunately the opportunities to shoot in the locations that appeal are limited.
Interesting you should mention this because your images - the abandoned houses in Greece come to mind - all seem to focus on the human artefacts in such a way so as to humanise the story/image, if you know what I mean. Clearly, it is about abandoned houses and dereliction, but you also manage to capture the echo's of history, even though the humanoids themselves are not in the image.
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Interesting you should mention this because your images - the abandoned houses in Greece come to mind - all seem to focus on the human artefacts in such a way so as to humanise the story/image, if you know what I mean. Clearly, it is about abandoned houses and dereliction, but you also manage to capture the echo's of history, even though the humanoids themselves are not in the image.
Oscar, that is certainly my aim and my interest.
Dereliction is not enough. God knows how many ruins I have rejected because that is all they are, shells, devoid of any evidence of the living. The buildings, or at least the buildings I seek, are time warps, a window on lives lived.
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Also known as wabi sabi, Keith. It can be wonderful stuff.
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Also known as wabi sabi, Keith. It can be wonderful stuff.
Careful Russ: that's a genre.
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Interesting you should mention this because your images - the abandoned houses in Greece come to mind - all seem to focus on the human artefacts in such a way so as to humanise the story/image, if you know what I mean. Clearly, it is about abandoned houses and dereliction, but you also manage to capture the echo's of history, even though the humanoids themselves are not in the image.
Oscar, I should perhaps add, that is why I called the series Abandoned Lives.
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Careful Russ: that's a genre.
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Oops, you're right, Rob. We shouldn't categorize things. No form as specific as "house." It should be considered "building," or better yet: "structure." Ultimately, though, it becomes very hard to identify or discuss anything.
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Oops, you're right, Rob. We shouldn't categorize things. No form as specific as "house." It should be considered "building," or better yet: "structure." Ultimately, though, it becomes very hard to identify or discuss anything.
That's what the bald gent across in my "street" slot shot was doing: holding his tonge as she consumed, and thinking his thoughts of the pact he'd made. Or they were skint, and could only pay for one?
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Fascinating video. Is Calcutta the Indian city of choice for gritty street life? Or could he have been in any Indian city? (I've never visited, but would like to.)
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Fascinating video. Is Calcutta the Indian city of choice for gritty street life? Or could he have been in any Indian city? (I've never visited, but would like to.)
In my time, Calcutta had the reputation for the most crowded and possibly the most poor. It attracted religious social workers like knives to a magnet.
Bombay had the rep for business and street whores - well, little cabin whores, shall we say? It was also the entertainment capital which I think it has made even more its own in the past fifty or sixty years. They do wonderful photographic work:
https://www.farrokhchothia.com/
It's always been a grave error to underestimate India.
Not a place I want to return to see anymore, but for many years I did. I feel too worn to take health risks now.
Rob
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Fascinating video. Is Calcutta the Indian city of choice for gritty street life? Or could he have been in any Indian city? (I've never visited, but would like to.)
All of the cities I've visited have a mixture of wealth, poverty, the grandiose and dereliction.
Simply the most fascinating country and hopefully the destination for many of our trips in the future.
(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/On_the_Boil.jpg)
Above all, whatever the destination the people are a joy.
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Keith, that shot illustrates the ingenuity of the native Indian: he has connected the waste box to the cooking one and is powering the latter by virtue of the methane coming from the former.
Cities may perish and all the Cavemen with them, but the rickshaw will trundle on harmoniously into the final sunset.
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Keith, that shot illustrates the ingenuity of the native Indian: he has connected the waste box to the cooking one and is powering the latter by virtue of the methane coming from the former.
Cities may perish and all the Cavemen with them, but the rickshaw will trundle on harmoniously into the final sunset.
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He's also boosting the makeshift cooking device by way of a household fan.
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He's also boosting the makeshift cooking device by way of a household fan.
You see? Turbo Man!
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He's also boosting the makeshift cooking device by way of a household fan.
What's cookin'? Do you partake in the street food? (I must confess I hesitate to go to India as so many say they get sick.)
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What's cookin'? Do you partake in the street food? (I must confess I hesitate to go to India as so many say they get sick.)
It almost killed me when I was about nine. Dysentery and dehydration. And that was eating at home. You don't have any idea what your fingers or those of the cooks and servers touch and pick up. My doc went there on holiday, and when he returned we chatted about the experience. According to him, everybody he saw in the street carried the symptoms of some illness or another.
Street food, unless piping heat hot, is a risk I would never take; ditto cold drinks on the street. Maybe unopened Coke's okay, but forget the juice and ice crushes, and water unless you know the water has been boiled and stored safely.
Don't forget that what people native to a circumstance can get away with is often greater than your own ability to survive the same. As with viruses, people can built up resistances.
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What's cookin'? Do you partake in the street food? (I must confess I hesitate to go to India as so many say they get sick.)
I've only experienced problems with food in Spain and when staying in and eating in luxurious Haveli in India. You can get ill anywhere. Stick with well cooked veg dishes - no hardship there - and you should be fine. Take plenty of antibacterial handwipes and use them.
I'm 70 years old with a history of cancer, heart disease, carotid artery disease and stroke. I could sit on my sofa and wait to die or I could make the most of the rest of my life.
No contest.
(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Varanasi_Barbershop.jpg)
And avoid illegal alcohol!
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Spoken with the true bravado of youth!
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Rob
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I wish.
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I wish.
Compared with me, you are! Enjoy the difference.
It's only partly physical. You are already aware of that, but as you also know, it takes more than a snap of the fingers to motivate a dead man, and I have been pretty much dead for over ten years now. Frankly, other than getting this apartment sold at a decent price and taking it out of the inheritance tax situation for the kids, not a lot matters squat to me other than paying my way and staying able to get medical help which I will always require.
Pictures have turned into nothing but time-fillers; that they aren't even ones I particularly want to take doesn't help, but it's the only therapy in town. Summer makes it even worse because the place gets so crowded and I hate the sense of being caught up in a tide of humanity like that. At least, come winter it turns into a ghost town which has disadvantages for sure, but also the real advantage that I have more energy and, strangely enough, do love rainy day pictures. Even of shop windows and dummies within.
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(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Varanasi_Barbershop.jpg)
Dude, this needs to move to Street section ASAP!!!!!!
The guy clearly is in agony and losing sleep over a conversation he had. In a good sense like being in love and no clue what to say until it's well too late, or in a bad sense in that it still gives him nightmares. Ambiguity right there...
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Compared with me, you are! Enjoy the difference.
It's only partly physical. You are already aware of that, but as you also know, it takes more than a snap of the fingers to motivate a dead man, and I have been pretty much dead for over ten years now. Frankly, other than getting this apartment sold at a decent price and taking it out of the inheritance tax situation for the kids, not a lot matters squat to me other than paying my way and staying able to get medical help which I will always require.
Pictures have turned into nothing but time-fillers; that they aren't even ones I particularly want to take doesn't help, but it's the only therapy in town. Summer makes it even worse because the place gets so crowded and I hate the sense of being caught up in a tide of humanity like that. At least, come winter it turns into a ghost town which has disadvantages for sure, but also the real advantage that I have more energy and, strangely enough, do love rainy day pictures. Even of shop windows and dummies within.
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The difference is essentially one of mindset.
No love of humanity = no go to India.
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Dude, this needs to move to Street section ASAP!!!!!!
The guy clearly is in agony and losing sleep over a conversation he had. In a good sense like being in love and no clue what to say until it's well too late, or in a bad sense in that it still gives him nightmares. Ambiguity right there...
I'm concerned it might be pigeonholed real street.
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The difference is essentially one of mindset.
No love of humanity = no go to India.
Makes sense.