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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: Hans Kruse on June 06, 2019, 05:04:13 pm
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I'm now in the Dolomites to run yet another workshop and a few days ago a wonderful morning at Alpe di Siusi was with fog early in the morning before sunrise. It was shot with my new Nikon Z7 and the 24-70 f/4 lens.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48013798511_06720602f9_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2g9Pgwg)Adventure Land (https://flic.kr/p/2g9Pgwg) by Hans Kruse (https://www.flickr.com/photos/hkruse/), on Flickr
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I can just imagine your students running over those hills, operating the portable Fog Machines that you no doubt provide on some workshops. ;D
That is quite lovely!
-Eric
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I can just imagine your students running over those hills, operating the portable Fog Machines that you no doubt provide on some workshops. ;D
That is quite lovely!
-Eric
Haha, good one.
Yes, another great picture.
Maybe I'm wrong but it would look as if you use different camera bodies for your photographs.
Is there a reason behind that?
I would bet that you can do that with ANY camera (or almost 8) )
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Excellent, the fog is just where it needs to be!
Bravo.
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Amazing!
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... Maybe I'm wrong but it would look as if you use different camera bodies for your photographs.
Is there a reason behind that?...
Hans mentioned the reason in the past: he shoots with both Canon and Nikon in order to be able to help his workshop participants who come with different cameras.
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... That is quite lovely!
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Stunning, Hans. Good title, too.
Jeremy
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Hans mentioned the reason in the past: he shoots with both Canon and Nikon in order to be able to help his workshop participants who come with different cameras.
Thanks Slobodan.
Still I don't see how this would be relevant, I assume that he teaches how to make GREAT photography and not necessarily how to use a camera model.
I asked because IMHO a Nikon or a Canon are both able to make the same photo. Goes without saying the rest of the paraphernalia, lenses, filters etc to carry to those beautiful locations ...
I assume that the point is "the magic moment", that not necessarily lasts for a very long time (fog, light etc)
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... Still I don't see how this would be relevant, I assume that he teaches how to make GREAT photography and not necessarily how to use a camera model...
Sorry to speak for Hans again, but it is relevant. Participants in those workshops are not all highly experienced photographers, so some of them need help with a particular model.
Heck, I will be the first to admit I do not know all there is to know about my Canon 5Ds.
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Sorry to speak for Hans again, but it is relevant. Participants in those workshops are not all highly experienced photographers, so some of them need help with a particular model.
Heck, I will be the first to admit I do not know all there is to know about my Canon 5Ds.
OK. Looking at his photography I made the assumption that participants would have to have a minimum (or homogeneous) level to begin with.
Hans writes "It is expected that you are familiar with the camera and menues since it is not possible for the instructor to know every variant of even Canon or Nikon cameras."
Which is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT - IMHO.
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OK. Looking at his photography I made the assumption that participants would have to have a minimum (or homogeneous) level to begin with.
Hans writes "It is expected that you are familiar with the camera and menues since it is not possible for the instructor to know every variant of even Canon or Nikon cameras."
Which is ABSOLUTELY RIGHT - IMHO.
You seem to have a talent to create an issue when there is none. There is a difference between a genuine desire to help your participants, and the need for a legal protection from those who might ask for money back or leave a negative review because the instructor didn't know what an obscure menu choice on their camera is.
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You seem to have a talent to create an issue when there is none. There is a difference between a genuine desire to help your participants, and the need for a legal protection from those who might ask for money back or leave a negative review because the instructor didn't know what an obscure menu choice on their camera is.
I see no issue here, Slobodan.
I approve what is written in the description of the workshop.
I asked Hans a simple question.
You answered, thanks for doing so. But your answer brought about new questions. And I asked them
I'm not criticizing in any way.
But the way to learn is asking your questions to the persons who know more.
Or your sit on your doubts forever. 8)
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Thanks Slobodan.
Still I don't see how this would be relevant, I assume that he teaches how to make GREAT photography and not necessarily how to use a camera model.
I asked because IMHO a Nikon or a Canon are both able to make the same photo. Goes without saying the rest of the paraphernalia, lenses, filters etc to carry to those beautiful locations ...
I assume that the point is "the magic moment", that not necessarily lasts for a very long time (fog, light etc)
I took two workshops in the 1960s with Minor White. The main focus of the workshop was clearly Fine Art Photography, but Minor was very ready with quick answers to small technical questions as well.
I expect Hans works in a similar way. I doubt if as much as 1% of the workshop time is spent on technical details, but often a quick technical answer can get a student back on the track to make GREAT photography without slowing down anyone else.
That's my speculative two cents.
-Eric
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Hans, yet another stunner!!! Love the comments about the students with the fog machines!! Hi too to Eric, we seem to be attracted to the same photos :)
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Lovely as always, Hans!
So how big is that industrial-size fog machine you seem to bring along on many of your shoots in Italy? :-)
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I expect Hans works in a similar way. I doubt if as much as 1% of the workshop time is spent on technical details, but often a quick technical answer can get a student back on the track to make GREAT photography without slowing down anyone else.
-Eric
Of course, I'm sure this is like that.
But the original question was
"Maybe I'm wrong but it would look as if you use different camera bodies for your photographs.
Is there a reason behind that? "
A simple one. Not related uniquely to workshops
Then we digressed on Slobodan's answer. I didn't see the point of taking different cameras to a shooting location "for helping those with different gear" Sonys and Lumix and whatever would perhaps be deployed as well by other participants.
I was not satisfied w that answer. No offence meant to anyone
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Back to the critique. An amazing image!
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Haha, good one.
Yes, another great picture.
Maybe I'm wrong but it would look as if you use different camera bodies for your photographs.
Is there a reason behind that?
I would bet that you can do that with ANY camera (or almost 8) )
Thanks and I'm running a workshop right now so was not following up on the thread and I have to sleep after a very early start today as the sun rises so early now.
The reason for different cameras and a Z7 is that I was frustrated back in time with all the Nikon shooters and some even experienced not knowing where to change settings like e.g. back button focus. So I decided to have a Nikon as well. Nobody was complaining about me not knowing the Nikons at the time. It was only me wanting to help my guests in a better way. So despite I write that I expect people to have an understanding of their cameras this is only partially true in reality. You would be surprised what some experienced shooters don't know :)
Now I have a Z7 as I'm curious about how this will affect my shooting style and again it is to be experienced on mirrorless cameras when I have a growing number of participants coming with mirrorless cameras. So I like to be able to respond to questions from experience and not just the theory so to speak.
We spend time on the technical aspects of camera handling to have the basic technical quality, but of course that is not the main focus of the workshops. I hoipe this answers the question.
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And also thanks a lot for all the comments. We will as a group also go to this place and now we are staying one night and morning. So we will see what we get and hope the best for the big fog machine. :)
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The reason for different cameras and a Z7 is that I was frustrated back in time with all the Nikon shooters and some even experienced not knowing where to change settings like e.g. back button focus. So I decided to have a Nikon as well. Nobody was complaining about me not knowing the Nikons at the time. It was only me wanting to help my guests in a better way. So despite I write that I expect people to have an understanding of their cameras this is only partially true in reality. You would be surprised what some experienced shooters don't know :)
Thanks Hans. Very clear. :)
And no, I'm not surprised. I used to know one or two experienced photographers who were very weak in many areas of photography and, worse still, didn't know it :(
I asked because in the old times, when I tried to do some serious photography, I used different cameras for different situations (4x5"/6x6) so I was wondering :)
I'm relatively new to digital photography.
Again thanks
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Fantastic image Hans. Too bad there is no fall workshop in the Dolomites! I will have to wait for next fall I guess. You seem to get the "spirit" of the Dolomites and Tuscany right on target.
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You seem to have a talent to create an issue when there is none. There is a difference between a genuine desire to help your participants, and the need for a legal protection from those who might ask for money back or leave a negative review because the instructor didn't know what an obscure menu choice on their camera is.
Why would anyone need legal protection for not knowing a menu selection? Sounds like irrational hyperbole to me.
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Stunning. Lucky for the workshop participants!
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Why would anyone need legal protection for not knowing a menu selection? Sounds like irrational hyperbole to me.
I also do not see a reason to use Back Button Focus when using a tripod but that could be just a detail
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I also do not see a reason to use Back Button Focus when using a tripod but that could be just a detail
I present my shooting technique for the participants and the rationale behind each part regarding focussing, DOF, exposure, camera shake, etc.etc.
My approach is not to say that's the only way to do it, but to explain the reasons why I have arrived at my technique and then each can take from that what makes sense for them. Some og my reasons may not apply to them. All has highly appreciated this approach. But it is not the focus of the workshop. The technique is just a way to repetitively avoid technical errors and maximize attention on shooting and composition when the moment is there. In a similar way I also show my compositions and editing technique in the class room in the middle of the day. We shoot only morning and evening.
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Fantastic image Hans. Too bad there is no fall workshop in the Dolomites! I will have to wait for next fall I guess. You seem to get the "spirit" of the Dolomites and Tuscany right on target.
Thanks and yes, I have to make time for some other activities this fall so I apologize for the cancelation.But next year I again do the two Dolomites workshops which have done in various forms since 2010. One of the first btw. to do this in the Dolomites but now there are many choices.
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I present my shooting technique for the participants and the rationale behind each part regarding focussing, DOF, exposure, camera shake, etc.etc.
My approach is not to say that's the only way to do it, but to explain the reasons why I have arrived at my technique and then each can take from that what makes sense for them. Some og my reasons may not apply to them. All has highly appreciated this approach. But it is not the focus of the workshop. The technique is just a way to repetitively avoid technical errors and maximize attention on shooting and composition when the moment is there. In a similar way I also show my compositions and editing technique in the class room in the middle of the day. We shoot only morning and evening.
Don't take me wrong, Hans.
By just looking at your images there is no doubt in my mind that you have a lot to say and your workshops are definitely highly profitable.
As I said, my remark was just a detail.
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Don't take me wrong, Hans.
By just looking at your images there is no doubt in my mind that you have a lot to say and your workshops are definitely highly profitable.
As I said, my remark was just a detail.
Thanks for that and I just thought it would be better with an explanation which might not be obvious if I made a much brief response.