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Equipment & Techniques => Computers & Peripherals => Topic started by: Slobodan Blagojevic on June 05, 2019, 12:36:26 pm
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Not sure that they're looking at the right laptops here. Most of the machines are speced at 16 GB. Two are 8 GB. Only the Apple is 32 GB. A 15-inch screen is pretty small for photo editing. Half a TB of SSD isn't much.
OTOH, the prices are low. A Lenovo P72 with a fast Xeon, 128 GB of RAM, a 4K 17" display, and 6 TB of SSD is about $7K.
Jim
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...A Lenovo P72 with a fast Xeon, 128 GB of RAM, a 4K 17" display, and 6 TB of SSD is about $7K...
This used to be a site for rich boys to brag about their rich toys to other rich boys, so perhaps you are right. I think that audience has dwindled. You can just send a PM to Bernard instead ;)
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I'm a Mac guy so here's the way I went. Just got it and I'm still loading software, etc. so I really can't say much except it is MUCH faster than the 2012 MBP that it is replacing. All the reviews and bench tests are VERY positive so far.
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Its also worthwhile to look at Adobe's recommendations for performance with Lr and PS. Here's the one for Lr.
https://helpx.adobe.com/lightroom-classic/kb/optimize-performance-lightroom.html
and one for PS
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/kb/optimize-photoshop-cc-performance.html
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I often wonder why people recommend a laptop with a touch screen for photos or video processing. Why would you want smudges on your screen?
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I often wonder why people recommend a laptop with a touch screen for photos or video processing. Why would you want smudges on your screen?
There are no smudges.
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Interesting.... do those screens look as good as ones that would smudge?
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Interesting.... do those screens look as good as ones that would smudge?
Not when you actually hook up a good color reference display (https://www.necdisplay.com/p/pa271w-bk) to the MacBook Pro ;)
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This used to be a site for rich boys to brag about their rich toys to other rich boys, so perhaps you are right. I think that audience has dwindled. You can just send a PM to Bernard instead ;)
Let's add up our total spendings these past 40 years in cars and photography related gear and decide who among the two of us is the richer shall we?... ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
p.s.: hint, my total car spending these past 40 years is around 24,000 US$...
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;D
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Not sure that they're looking at the right laptops here. Most of the machines are speced at 16 GB. Two are 8 GB. Only the Apple is 32 GB. A 15-inch screen is pretty small for photo editing. Half a TB of SSD isn't much.
OTOH, the prices are low. A Lenovo P72 with a fast Xeon, 128 GB of RAM, a 4K 17" display, and 6 TB of SSD is about $7K.
Jim
That Dell that is top of the list has 32GB available: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-15-touch-laptop/spd/xps-15-9570-laptop/dycwb1654h
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That Dell that is top of the list has 32GB available: https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/dell-laptops/xps-15-touch-laptop/spd/xps-15-9570-laptop/dycwb1654h
Yes, I have one w/ 32 gigs and a 1TB SSD, dedicated video card. Fast, nice. Had I to do it again, I’d not choose the 4K wide gamut display, though. Even properly calibrated it feels as though the colors are too “hot and saturated.”
Rand
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Let's add up our total spendings these past 40 years in cars and photography related gear and decide who among the two of us is the richer shall we?... ;)
Cheers,
Bernard
p.s.: hint, my total car spending these past 40 years is around 24,000 US$...
Depends on the time frame.
In 1996, Toyota Camry cost around $16,000, about the same as a Linhof 617 with 2 lenses or Seitz rotating panoramic camera.
The latest Camry model is now over $30,000 and Seitz VR Drive & FF camera combo is now half price of the equivalent film gear setup.
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It looks relatively likely that we'll be getting an actually new MacBook Pro this fall (more than just the speed bump we saw recently). There has been some informed speculation that it could be a very performance-oriented model a little thicker and heavier than the current machine.
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The prognostication I've read says new MacBooks for the fall not MacBook Pros.
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The latest is that seven new model numbers have turned up - all supposedly laptops...
One variable is that a device with a cellular modem uses up four model numbers due to regional variations - if the 12" MacBook got a cell option, it'll be that machine plus three others.
Even if four of the numbers are an iPad (which always have cell options), there are three laptops coming - they are unlikely to all be MacBooks.
Dan
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There are no smudges.
Because you don't touch it?
Is it a benefit to use a touch screen for photo editing? Have no experience with it.
I use a Wacom so have a kind of touch screen.
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Because you don't touch it?...
Hehe, that would help for sure :)
I had in mind oleophobic coating, which provides a certain amount of finger smudge resistance. I just noticed that modern phones and tablets are much less prone to fingerprints because of it.
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I'm a Mac guy so here's the way I went. Just got it and I'm still loading software, etc. so I really can't say much except it is MUCH faster than the 2012 MBP that it is replacing. All the reviews and bench tests are VERY positive so far.
It would be interesting to hear what your experience is with sustained processing. So many pundits claiming the higher processor speeds will suffer from throttling due to heat in the MPB's current design.
Depends on the time frame.
In 1996, Toyota Camry cost around $16,000, about the same as a Linhof 617 with 2 lenses or Seitz rotating panoramic camera.
The latest Camry model is now over $30,000 and Seitz VR Drive & FF camera combo is now half price of the equivalent film gear setup.
If you could afford anything made by Sietz in either time frame you're wealthy IMHO ;D
And yes, everything I've read suggests that the new Macs are consumer grade and the rumored redesigned 16" MBP is not due this year.
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I just bought the XPS 15 spec'd as in the recommendation in that article. It's replacing my 2015 15" rMBP 2.5 512 16 which I will be selling. I decided that Windows is the better option for me into the future. (I was Windows for over 20 years before buying the Mac 3 years ago.) So far, I'm very pleased with the Dell, which at some point will be upgraded to 32GB and 1TB Samsung 970 Pro SSD.
I don't know where they came up with the benchmarks. My MBP scored a Geekbench 4 score of 15300 in multi-core. The Dell scored 22638 with the 8750. The respective Open CL scores were 38270 (2GB AMD 370X) and 83180 (4GB Nvidia 1050Ti Max-Q). Because of cost, the MBP has been my only machine, hooked to external monitor and keyboard. The Dell is doing that temporarily. But the plan is to completely upgrade my old 2012 PC desktop after the Ryzen 3000 chips are available.
Lloyd