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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: Chairman Bill on May 22, 2019, 06:05:29 pm

Title: Dartmoor river
Post by: Chairman Bill on May 22, 2019, 06:05:29 pm
The Teign at Scorhill
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Post by: Paulo Bizarro on May 23, 2019, 05:05:22 am
Good B&W.
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Post by: stamper on May 23, 2019, 07:08:41 am
I like!
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Post by: kers on May 23, 2019, 08:37:26 am
I like it ,
and forgive me for mutilating your photo, but personally i would prefer it more like this.
the air and earth balanced and strong

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Post by: Chairman Bill on May 23, 2019, 11:52:38 am
I like that - does the sky more justice than my version
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Post by: HSakols on May 23, 2019, 02:34:58 pm
Very Nice! 
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 23, 2019, 03:15:21 pm
I like that - does the sky more justice than my version

I think he's overdone it a bit, but my first thought was that the stark "top half light, bottom half dark" of your version could benefit from a little rebalancing.

Jeremy
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Post by: kers on May 23, 2019, 06:03:15 pm
I agree it is a bit too...much, but it gives the direction.
I did it in photoshop just with curves and masks, but you can do it too in LR i guess.
Glad you did not think I ruined your photo ;)
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Post by: nirpat89 on May 23, 2019, 06:41:32 pm
Strong image.  I would crop the sky some though, probably a little less than halfway.  And some darkening might help balancing it too but not so much that it takes away from the drama of the the great foreground.  May be...

:Niranjan.
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Post by: Ray on May 23, 2019, 09:26:51 pm
For me, a major attraction of landscapes in general is the glorious interplay of colors, as well as any interesting aspects and forms in the composition.

I'd be very reluctant to remove the blueness of the sky and the rich greenness of the foliage, and so on. Howver, if the colors are rather dull and don't appear to match well, I can appreciate that a B&W conversion might be more appealing.

On the other hand, changing the color balance and saturation in Photoshop might still produce a more appealing result than a B&W conversion, at least for me.
Title: Re: Dartmoor river
Post by: Chairman Bill on May 24, 2019, 02:08:10 am
For me, a major attraction of landscapes in general is the glorious interplay of colors, as well as any interesting aspects and forms in the composition.

I'd be very reluctant to remove the blueness of the sky and the rich greenness of the foliage, and so on. Howver, if the colors are rather dull and don't appear to match well, I can appreciate that a B&W conversion might be more appealing.

On the other hand, changing the color balance and saturation in Photoshop might still produce a more appealing result than a B&W conversion, at least for me.

Well here's the colour version. I always envisaged it in B&W but you might prefer this
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on May 24, 2019, 03:17:17 am
Well here's the colour version. I always envisaged it in B&W but you might prefer this

No.

Jeremy
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Post by: 32BT on May 24, 2019, 04:09:17 am
I could see myself liking the color version with the three redish, greenish, blueish color areas. I would however not open up the bottom foreground that much. Looks slightly unnatural, and keeping it darker, or darkening it with a gradient would introduce a bit more drama, and a slightly better separation between the riverbed and the greens. That might lose the impression of streaming water though.
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Post by: Ray on May 24, 2019, 08:41:20 am
Well here's the colour version. I always envisaged it in B&W but you might prefer this


The colours and shading don't look quite natural on my monitor. I've cropped the sky, brightened the blue, raised the shadows and changed the hue of the rocks.

The image now looks more natural and pleasing to me.

 
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Post by: stamper on May 24, 2019, 09:00:15 am
Processing low quality jpegs doesn't make sense imo because the slightest change will quickly degrade and posterize an image?
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Post by: Ray on May 24, 2019, 09:24:29 am
Processing low quality jpegs doesn't make sense imo because the slightest change will quickly degrade and posterize an image?

Can't notice any degradation on my monitor, comparing Chairman Bill's colour version with my modified version, side by side in Photoshop. However, if you're worried about that, convert the image to 16 bit Tiff before processing it, then convert it back to 8 bit and save again as jpeg.
Title: Re: Dartmoor river
Post by: Chairman Bill on May 24, 2019, 12:07:44 pm
At least people seem to think it's worth messing about with until I get it right. That's a positive :-)