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Equipment & Techniques => Medium Format / Film / Digital Backs – and Large Sensor Photography => Topic started by: Endeavour on April 26, 2019, 06:12:35 pm
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I'm thinking of going for a GFX 50r
I am 100% only interested in landscape photography. (I have other systems for other types of work)
I will also be printing large (24"+)
I've seen (what I think) is a really good deal for body + 45mm GF lens locally at a store I trust so just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the camera before I take the plunge?
Truth be told, I really wanted one of those shiny X1D things, but the price of the body and lenses, together with the unknown status of the line (discontinued?) has put me off
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I'm thinking of going for a GFX 50r
I am 100% only interested in landscape photography. (I have other systems for other types of work)
I will also be printing large (24"+)
I've seen (what I think) is a really good deal for body + 45mm GF lens locally at a store I trust so just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the camera before I take the plunge?
Truth be told, I really wanted one of those shiny X1D things, but the price of the body and lenses, together with the unknown status of the line (discontinued?) has put me off
The 50R has a different form factor which you might prefer. Other than that nobody has complained about the Fujis, ever, in this forum.
Edmund
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I'm thinking of going for a GFX 50r
I am 100% only interested in landscape photography. (I have other systems for other types of work)
I will also be printing large (24"+)
I've seen (what I think) is a really good deal for body + 45mm GF lens locally at a store I trust so just wondered if anyone has any thoughts on the camera before I take the plunge?
Truth be told, I really wanted one of those shiny X1D things, but the price of the body and lenses, together with the unknown status of the line (discontinued?) has put me off
For landscapes I would prefer the GFX50s - because of the angle viewfinder. I do not want to give up the angle viewfinder and find myself missing it on other cameras.
Greeting Gerd
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Then your dilemma is solved. Get a 50s...... You won't be disappointed.
Victor
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the 50r with a 45mm lens bundle is $6,724.00 cad ($4990 US)
the 50s on it's own is $6999 ($5200 US)
the 45mm lens on its own is $2129 ($1580 US)
So with the same lens, the 50s is $9128 ($6774 US)
Is the viewfinder really worth almost $1800 US more?
if I ignore the 45mm lens and go for a GF 23mm which might be more suited to landscapes, then the price gap closes a bit to $965 US:
23mm = $3249 ($2411 US)
50r with 23mm = $8948 ($6641 US)
50s with 23mm = $10,248 ($7606 US)
but obviously the overall price has gone up
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My only experience with the GFX cameras is a weekend rental but I just loved using it in the landscape and loved the images. I did have the angle finder and really did like it. In the landscape, I think it almost essential, albeit expensive. But..., just to throw a wrench into the works, before you take the plunge, look at some of the articles which carefully compare image quality of the GFX-and X1D medium format cameras with the high MP full frame 35mm size cameras. I did that and ended up with a Sony A7R3 though the Nikon D850 also tempted me, and were it now, the Nikon Z7 and Panasonic S1R. Read what Lloyd Chambers, (diglloyd.com) has to say about the S1R. What pushed me toward the "standard" 35mm was a combination of versatility and weight. Price was also a factor. I was able to get some of Sony's finest lenses, with a wider spread of focal length at a weight and price that was considerably less than the Fuji. The fact that there's even an argument that there's a difference between the high MP full frame cameras and the medium format ones makes me wonder whether the considerable extra cost and weight are worth it. Your needs may be different than mine and as someone else said, there's not much real criticism of the Fuji medium format offerings here or anywhere else. Also, the 100MP version should be out at the end of May. This may drop the prices of the "mere" 50MP cameras. Years ago I had multiple systems, 4x5 for "serious" landscape, 6x6 for more portablility yet high quality, and 35mm film, later digital, for events and family. Now, with the A7R3, I can pretty much have it all with a single body and a single set of superb lenses. This works for me, I hope you can find what works best for you. I have friends who use a huge variety of gear, from 35mm film through 12x20 film and every digital variation conceivable, they're happy with their choices, I hope you'll be happy with yours.
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I'd check for a used 50s also - no need to purchase new. What are you shooting now, and have you tried stitching with your current gear?
-Joe
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Hi Joe
I have no problem buying new. But used 50s/r are pretty hard to find
There was a great setup for sale on getdpi. but the chap wouldnt sell to Canada - so it's slim pickings at the moment. But I am keeping an eye on the classifieds and ebay etc
Right now I am shooting 4x5 film and a Phase One P30+ on Hasselblad H
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Hi Joe
I have no problem buying new. But used 50s/r are pretty hard to find
Put a WTB ad in the For Sale forum here!
There's also the Fuji page on Facebook - I'd be surprised if a bunch of these don't come on the market in June when the GFX 100 gets released.
Edmund
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yeah I was wondering what might happen when the 100 is out
The other alternative is to upgrade my P30+ to a P65+
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Truth be told, I really wanted one of those shiny X1D things, but the price of the body and lenses, together with the unknown status of the line (discontinued?) has put me off
I am sure that the Fuji is an excellent camera.
I have the Hasselblad X1D and love it though.
Buy the camera that you want. There are always deals.
Buy cheap buy thrice.
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decided against the GFX (or X1D) for now
I've managed to get myself a nice P65+ for my Hasselblad, so I can keep my existing workflow, lenses and body etc
I may revisit the idea of a mirrorless for my landscape work, but I am hoping I will be happy with my p65+ for some time to come
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decided against the GFX (or X1D) for now
I've managed to get myself a nice P65+ for my Hasselblad, so I can keep my existing workflow, lenses and body etc
I may revisit the idea of a mirrorless for my landscape work, but I am hoping I will be happy with my p65+ for some time to come
The P65+ is a great tribute to how long an investment in a Phase One system will pay dividends. Those who bought it upon release (2008) can still, 11 years later, find they have a system that has a larger sensor, higher resolution, better color than the cutting edge of smaller-format platforms, along with great tonality and rock-solid reliability and bullet-proof tethering.
Of course this legacy system lacks field live view, iso range (max 3200, and even that only at the reduced resolution), max one minute long exposures, firewire only for tethering, and a mediocre review screen. But within those notable constraints it still produces an amazingly beautiful raw file today, and will continue to produce an amazingly beautiful raw file another decade from now.
Hopefully you had a chance to play with one before purchase to make sure it fit your needs/wants from a specification point of view. But as long as the technical limits of this older platform don't interfere with your work then I suspect you'll love it!
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I have been really happy with my P1/C1 workflow and I love my H body so I am really hoping the P65+ is going to give me what I want out in the field
The only concern is the exposure time. I wont ever be going above iso 50 or 100 so hoping this will help a little. But those 5 min waterfall shots are going to have to be rethought
now I just need to find someone to buy my P30+ to limit the pain my wife will inflict when she finds out I've bought another DB :-\
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Ugh the ebay seller cancelled the sale after I paid for the P65+
no idea why, but that means I'm back to square one.
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I have been really happy with my P1/C1 workflow and I love my H body so I am really hoping the P65+ is going to give me what I want out in the field
The only concern is the exposure time. I wont ever be going above iso 50 or 100 so hoping this will help a little. But those 5 min waterfall shots are going to have to be rethought
now I just need to find someone to buy my P30+ to limit the pain my wife will inflict when she finds out I've bought another DB :-\
Well with the P65+ (which I owned until recently) I never went beyond 10-15 seconds, even with ISO50 the results became very unpleasant. You could make multiple exposures and then combine them afterwards but that requires very careful handling of the camera and files.
But I've made some of my personal favorite images at exposures of 7-10seconds and those turned out to be stellar looking!
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Ugh the ebay seller cancelled the sale after I paid for the P65+
no idea why, but that means I'm back to square one.
Sorry to hear that. Maybe check with your preferred dealer if they have any p65+ or expect any coming in?
Or stretch to the IQ260 which allows exposures up to one hour and has a much better screen and in-camera review tech. The certified pre owned version of this back (guaranteed condition with warranty and dealer service/support included) is on sale at the moment: https://www.dtcommercialphoto.com/product-category/refurbished-backs-bodies-lenses/pre-owned-phase-one-digital-backs/
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significant budget creep for an IQ ;)
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What about an IQ 160?
The claim of 1 hour exposure capabilities on the 260 is a issue I sure would demo first. You don’t have to go anywhere near 1 hour before you see noise. I owned one for 2 years or longer and never found the 260 was able to produce anything much longer than what I was getting with the 160, about 2 minutes. Many seem to think the 260 had the same 1hour response as the P45+ sadly it did not. At least for me it didn’t. Even with the long exposure base ISO of 140. I don’t think anything was done for the 260 after March of 2016 in regards to firmware improvement for long exposures. But I may have missed something.
Paul C
Paul C
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I had the P65+ and have the IQ180. Both use Dalsa sensors and behave very similar regarding color reproduction, DR and long exposure capability.
The IQ180 I try to use at ISO 35 and and 50 only and limit the exposure time to 8s. Any higher ISO or longer exposure time adds noise artefacts which effectively reduces the usable resolution on a level below any current high resolution 135 cameras.
These are great backs but nowadays I find the 50MP CMOS sensor in the GFX so much more convenient and flexible to work with (I expect soon the same with the 100MP version), so I rarely use IQ180 and I today won't recommend to invest in such dated system.
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Ugh the ebay seller cancelled the sale after I paid for the P65+
no idea why, but that means I'm back to square one.
Could be a sign.
Hasselblad just release Certified Pre Owned X1D.
https://www.hasselblad.com/certified-pre-owned/?utm_source=Hasselblad+End+Users&utm_campaign=aa6acc6576-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_25_12_06_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_16f5cb481a-aa6acc6576-350120573
CMOS instead of CCD and USB instead of Firewire. Plus a new camera using the same lenses. I used HC lenses for a year before getting my first XCD.
Put your existing camera and on eBay while it is still worth something.
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thanks Bob
as previously said, I would love an X1D but the reasons I am reluctant are:
1) What are Hasselblad doing with it? Is it discontinued or not? will there be serviceable parts available in the future etc
2) My HC lenses are too old to have the firmware updated to support the X1D so I will need to buy new lenses anyway
3) The GFX 50s is cheaper, potentially better supported and is readily available
4) The GFX 50s can be fitted to my 4x5 camera with the adapter - something I am very interested in trying out
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4) The GFX 50s can be fitted to my 4x5 camera with the adapter - something I am very interested in trying out
Note that there are significant restrictions on the widest angle lens this will support. The exact limitation depends on the view camera in question, but none will reach especially wide.
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Note that there are significant restrictions on the widest angle lens this will support. The exact limitation depends on the view camera in question, but none will reach especially wide.
of this I am aware. and there is a reason it's last on the list - just a bit of fun I'd like to try out - it's not going to replace my 4x5 film
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There will be a glut of used GFX 50S cameras on the market at the end of this month as the 100 comes on line.
Edmund
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There will be a glut of used GFX 50S cameras on the market at the end of this month as the 100 comes on line.
You don't think people will hang onto them as a second body?
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I had the P65+ and have the IQ180. Both use Dalsa sensors and behave very similar regarding color reproduction, DR and long exposure capability.
The IQ180 I try to use at ISO 35 and and 50 only and limit the exposure time to 8s. Any higher ISO or longer exposure time adds noise artefacts which effectively reduces the usable resolution on a level below any current high resolution 135 cameras.
These are great backs but nowadays I find the 50MP CMOS sensor in the GFX so much more convenient and flexible to work with (I expect soon the same with the 100MP version), so I rarely use IQ180 and I today won't recommend to invest in such dated system.
The "trick" with the claims towards the CCD-IQ backs and their long exposure capabilities is related to Capture One noise reduction and hot pixel elimination. That's why 50% noise reduction (luma and color noise) is set as standard - which greatly reduces the amount of visible detail in the photos.
I sold my P65+ after I tested the GFX 50s and I'm really quite happy with the Fuji system. If only there was a Mamiya645-AF adapter for the GFX...
I don't think too many people will jump on the GFX 100s - for one the price will be about 10.000€. Also I don't think too many people will need 100MP and I think most enjoy the small build of the GFX50s/r - and the 100s is pretty big and heavy incomparison.
So while it may be a great body for rental purposes (rather cheap for a day or a week compared to a PhaseOne or Hasselblad system) it's still quite an expensive purchase for most users.
And it would be interesting to compare long exposure/high ISO and low light performance in general with the 50s/r.
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You don't think people will hang onto them as a second body?
I think some users, and maybe also rental houses will resell.
The attraction of the new body is not the resolution, it is focus due to the new sensor's focus pixels, and IBIS.
I expect a pricepoint of $9.5K. At an upgrade cost of about $6K if you factor in the resale of a 50, the 100 is a nobrainer for anyone who already uses the Fuji system handheld in the studio, for IBIS and Phase detect AF over the whole field, eye focus and follow focus AF.
I expect the GFX-100 to become a hit in fashion, where handholding a camera has its uses even when tethered, and Phase backs and C1 were always held back by the limitations of the Phamiya and XF bodies.
My expectation is that anyone with a C1 workflow and cash coming in will ditch their Phase One gear at this point, or possibly run a Fuji next to a Phase 150, with the Fuji for mostly everything handheld.
Interestingly, Hasselblad still has a niche in the easy-to-carry MF department, if they don't blow it.
Edmund
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1) What are Hasselblad doing with it? Is it discontinued or not? will there be serviceable parts available in the future etc
> All I can say are that Hasselblad are still selling it. Plenty of people still have 50 year old Hasselblads.
2) My HC lenses are too old to have the firmware updated to support the X1D so I will need to buy new lenses anyway
>All HC lenses work on manual focus, which should not worry you if you shoot landscape. The 80mm works fine as general purpose. Focus on tethering works.
3) The GFX 50s is cheaper, potentially better supported and is readily available
>A Canon or Nikon is cheaper also. Actually I paid less for my dealer demo X1D than I would have for a Canon !Dx
4) The GFX 50s can be fitted to my 4x5 camera with the adapter - something I am very interested in trying out
>Not really. It is not a back, it is a complete camera. So it is possible to bolt it on, but you will have no wide angle.
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Could be a sign.
Hasselblad just release Certified Pre Owned X1D.
https://www.hasselblad.com/certified-pre-owned/?utm_source=Hasselblad+End+Users&utm_campaign=aa6acc6576-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_10_25_12_06_COPY_01&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_16f5cb481a-aa6acc6576-350120573
CMOS instead of CCD and USB instead of Firewire. Plus a new camera using the same lenses. I used HC lenses for a year before getting my first XCD.
Put your existing camera and on eBay while it is still worth something.
i got swamped with emails and on social media about this...so i checked it out...2 bodies total at 5800 and 6200$, i could not find anything outside US, maybe already all sold? regardless: it looks desperate to launch this for selling literally a few bodies.... used....really makes you wonder how many bodies they actually managed to sell overall?
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i got swamped with emails and on social media about this...so i checked it out...2 bodies total at 5800 and 6200$, i could not find anything outside US, maybe already all sold? regardless: it looks desperate to launch this for selling literally a few bodies.... used....really makes you wonder how many bodies they actually managed to sell overall?
In my experience, they never list more than a couple of the same model. They could have 14 X1D bodies sitting there, they're not going to list every single one of them. As they sell through, they tend to fill in until they're gone (at least that is what IU have seen when we used to order Hasselblad Certified Models). But it is very rare they will show more than 2 of the same model. You'll notice the serial numbers change over time. So .. not desperate.
Steve Hendrix/CI
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In my experience, they never list more than a couple of the same model. They could have 14 X1D bodies sitting there, they're not going to list every single one of them. As they sell through, they tend to fill in until they're gone (at least that is what IU have seen when we used to order Hasselblad Certified Models). But it is very rare they will show more than 2 of the same model. You'll notice the serial numbers change over time. So .. not desperate.
Steve Hendrix/CI
There are 6 X1D bodies on the Europe page at the moment.
Edmund
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I don't think too many people will jump on the GFX 100s - for one the price will be about 10.000€. Also I don't think too many people will need 100MP and I think most enjoy the small build of the GFX50s/r - and the 100s is pretty big and heavy incomparison.
So while it may be a great body for rental purposes (rather cheap for a day or a week compared to a PhaseOne or Hasselblad system) it's still quite an expensive purchase for most users.
And it would be interesting to compare long exposure/high ISO and low light performance in general with the 50s/r.
Hmmm - don't agree. There's a lot of people who need high Mp, so let's not go down that old rabbit hole.
I'm one of them and am on the wait list for the 100. 50mp is of no interest.
Sony are coming with ~65Mp A7R4 later this year, so there's little point in getting a 50s/ 50R now. The 100, yes, thats a different ballgame, with IBIS and latest BSI sensor. Looking forward to it.
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I'd say that a 50MP (small) medium format camera will generally be a better choice than a 65MP small format camera.
A smaller sensor area with a high pixel density isn't a good combination...
Also: how many small format lenses will be able to really keep up with that resolution, especially in the corners? All that pixel peeping will turn into mush reading.
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One major value of the Fuji 100mp will be its support by C1 Pro.
Another one is the vertical grip that will be much more comfortable to use that the old fashioned designed of the XF and H MF bodies. So much better for handheld portrait shooting.
I find this camera very appealing.
Cheers,
Bernard
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One major value of the Fuji 100mp will be its support by C1 Pro.
Another one is the vertical grip that will be much more comfortable to use that the old fashioned designed of the XF and H MF bodies. So much better for handheld portrait shooting.
I find this camera very appealing.
Cheers,
Bernard
It's quite astonishing how mirrorless has changed the market, no one predicted that only one company (Hassy) would make the investments necessary to survive, and that a new entrant would eat everyone's lunch.
Edmund
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Yes, physics indicates that a 50 MP small medium format sensor will have higher image quality (all else being equal) than a similar pixel count (or the hypothetical 65 mp) 24x36mm sensor. I'm assuming that the question is low-ISO image quality with a great lens in a big print (why else consider medium format)? In the present case, all else is not equal. Image quality on the same size/pixel count sensor generally increases over time if you're looking at the same technology tree (in this case, all relevant sensors are variants on Sony CMOS).
The 50 MP medium format sensor is the oldest Sony sensor in any camera manufactured today (it's a 2014 sensor), while the 42-45 MP generation 24x36mm sensors are relatively recent, with several technological improvements since 2014 (BSI, copper wiring). Any Sony ~65 MP 24x36mm sensor would be the very latest generation, with further improvements.
The question becomes: will more favorable physics overcome several years of technology? In the case of the 50MP sensor versus the Sony/Nikon 45MP, my answer from looking at big prints very closely was "generally either tied or a very, very slight advantage to the big sensor, but by so little you'd need a magnifying glass to tell, and certainly not by enough to make the weight difference for camera and lenses worth it". A 65MP sensor with another couple of years of technology advances would probably beat the venerable 50MP sensor.
Of course, none of this holds for the 100 MP small medium format sensor. THAT is technologically recent, larger, and holds a substantial pixel count advantage (plus 16-bit readout). That sensor should beat any 24x36mm sensor for the next several years.
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One major value of the Fuji 100mp will be its support by C1 Pro.
Has either Phase One or Fuji said officially how long the commitment to support the GFX cameras in C1 is for? I was told it was for three years initially. I hope it continues well beyond that.
Tony
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Has either Phase One or Fuji said officially how long the commitment to support the GFX cameras in C1 is for? I was told it was for three years initially. I hope it continues well beyond that.
Odds are that C1 Pro will be Phaseone’s most important, product by then. I would be surprised if they ever dropped support for Fuji small MF.
I don’t see the 645 sensor market expanding much. The IQ4 150 manages to motivate some people to upgrade thanks for the the superior tech camera movement behavior, but who will continue to invest 40,000+ US$ every 2-3 years to go from 150mp to 200 mp... knowing that there is no new tech camera glass available to upgrade to? Yes, some backs will die and be replaced but that is a really tiny market, these backs can last years if used in controlled environments.
Cheers,
Bernard
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I wonder which product is financially most important to Phase One? Not that many years ago (I think this was right around when Adobe went subscription-only), it was still the backs, despite robust sales of Capture One. The revenue per back was so huge that a relatively small number of backs outstripped many more C1 licenses.
With Adobe's recent shenanigans, C1 is probably a more important product than it has been, and I wonder how much less expensive "small MF" mirrorless systems and really good high-resolution 24x36mm (DSLR and mirrorless) systems have affected Phase One's back sales. Most of the image quality change in backs has been at the extreme upper end of an already high-end market, while Fuji, Sony and Nikon have been chewing on the lower end... How many $40,000 backs are they selling? And are they selling a couple hundred times as many C1 licenses?
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For all GFX owners, this post by Jim about focus shift is super useful: https://blog.kasson.com/gfx-50s/dealing-with-focus-shift-with-native-lenses-on-the-fuji-gfx/
Cheers,
Bernard
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One major value of the Fuji 100mp will be its support by C1 Pro.
Cheers,
Bernard
Yes, just be aware that Phase One will not allow the Fuji GFX-100 to have color that competes with their own IQ series back's color.
Capture One's profiles for other cameras are pretty good - on a scale of 10, they are an 8 or 9.
But... Phase One's own back profiles are an 11 !
They are not silly, they want to be sure their products come out top in any comparison of tonality/color. And they do. Some of this is the hardware, but most of it is Capture One profile quality.
My hope is that some color guru will make a supremely good custom camera profile for GFX-100 in C1, so you can overcome this handicap.
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I wonder how much of that is Phase One individually tuning hardware in each back? They certainly used to, but it's gotten harder because the new Sony sensors have on-chip analog to digital conversion - Phase One no longer gets to work with the analog signal at all. They could still do some individual color profiling and embed it in the back's firmware (or something similar)... That would be impossible to do in any extensive way on a consumer-priced camera, it would be possible in an automated way on a $10,000 Fuji, but there's room on a $50,000 Phase for a technician to take a day or two to individually adjust each back.
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Yes, just be aware that Phase One will not allow the Fuji GFX-100 to have color that competes with their own IQ series back's color.
Capture One's profiles for other cameras are pretty good - on a scale of 10, they are an 8 or 9.
But... Phase One's own back profiles are an 11 !
They are not silly, they want to be sure their products come out top in any comparison of tonality/color. And they do. Some of this is the hardware, but most of it is Capture One profile quality.
My hope is that some color guru will make a supremely good custom camera profile for GFX-100 in C1, so you can overcome this handicap.
You are possibly right.
Now, it remains unclear to me what P1 is getting out of this deal with Fuji and this leads me to think that there are things that are not public. These things may result in P1 having to do their best on the GFX100 files.
Besides, many seem to be of the opinion that Fuji’s color science is the best there is, so the color filter on the sensor may be as good or better than P1’s on the IQ4.
This means that the files may have the best color info, if P1 doesn’t then someone will create outstanding C1 profiles for the GFX100. It will have enough of a cult following for that to happen and be an interesting business endeavour.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Now, it remains unclear to me what P1 is getting out of this deal with Fuji and this leads me to think that there are things that are not public.
Money. Converts from Lightroom et al.
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Now, it remains unclear to me what P1 is getting out of this deal with Fuji and this leads me to think that there are things that are not public. These things may result in P1 having to do their best on the GFX100 files.
I find it a notable coincidence that Phase hasn't brought a 100MP 33x44 back to market, when Fuji is now on C1 and coming out with the 100MP. They (Phase) clearly have access to the chip as it's in an aerial product. Maybe it's still early, who knows?
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I find it a notable coincidence that Phase hasn't brought a 100MP 33x44 back to market, when Fuji is now on C1 and coming out with the 100MP. They (Phase) clearly have access to the chip as it's in an aerial product. Maybe it's still early, who knows?
It's been noted a few times here that Phase is all in on FF 645 & their 100mp 33x44 product is an industrial product (iX series).
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They've publicly stated that they are no longer interested in 33x44mm backs. I'm not sure this completely rules out a 33x44mm camera to compete with Fuji (probably mirrorless), but their high-end modular backs will be all 645 (really 645ish - even those big chips aren't quite 645) from now on.
What I think is more likely than a 33x44mm mirrorless camera from Phase is a 645ish mirrorless camera. They (or Hasselblad) could come out with something above the GFX100, using the big 150MP chip, but less expensive than the backs.
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They've publicly stated that they are no longer interested in 33x44mm backs. I'm not sure this completely rules out a 33x44mm camera to compete with Fuji (probably mirrorless), but their high-end modular backs will be all 645 (really 645ish - even those big chips aren't quite 645) from now on.
What I think is more likely than a 33x44mm mirrorless camera from Phase is a 645ish mirrorless camera. They (or Hasselblad) could come out with something above the GFX100, using the big 150MP chip, but less expensive than the backs.
For a P1 mirrorless system based on 33x44mm sensors to be competitive with Fuji and Hasselblad X1, they would have to release a full line up of new lenses... I am not sure what value they would be able to deliver to motive users to adopt such a new platform at P1 prices considering how good and mature the existing 2 offers are (Fuji and Hassy), not to mention the tremendous progress made by Sony, Nikon and Pana on 35mm mirrorless.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Besides, many seem to be of the opinion that Fuji’s color science is the best there is, so the color filter on the sensor may be as good or better than P1’s on the IQ4.
Not sure that they sell *all* their dyes, but Fuji is in the business of selling dyes for CFAs.
https://www.fujifilmusa.com/products/semiconductor_materials/image-sensor-color-mosaic/index.html
Jim
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You are possibly right.
I'm positive I am. Done tests...
Not saying they mess with the profiles for other cameras, just that they go above and beyond for their system, but not others.
As you say, I hope a color guru releases a custom C1 camera profile for GFX-100. Would happily pay for it
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I'm positive I am. Done tests...
Not saying they mess with the profiles for other cameras, just that they go above and beyond for their system, but not others.
As you say, I hope a color guru releases a custom C1 camera profile for GFX-100. Would happily pay for it
Now, it used to be the case that applying P1 IQ250 profiles to Nikon cameras worked great...
I wouldn't be surprised if applying IQ4 150 profiles to the GFX100 were an option.
Cheers,
Bernard
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Interesting idea - the sensors are closely related (not sure about the CFAs)...
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Interesting idea - the sensors are closely related (not sure about the CFAs)...
Indeed, color filtering is likely to be different.
Cheers,
Bernard
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All the rumors were true.
Cheers,
Bernard
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All the rumors were true.
Cheers,
Bernard
They weren't rumors they were leaks.
Edmund
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All the rumors were true.
Cheers,
Bernard
Holy smokes, what a beast!
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They weren't rumors they were leaks.
I thought we all knew these are synonyms.
Cheers,
Bernard
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I thought we all knew these are synonyms.
Cheers,
Bernard
All the leaks were true! ;)
Steve hendrix/CI
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Local Rep has said Fuji are going to announce there TS lenses for this camera. Expected price around $3000 a lens. Sound like good kit.
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I thought we all knew these are synonyms.
Cheers,
Bernard
In this forum even the truth hath many names. ;)
Edmund