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Title: What comes after P800?
Post by: texshooter on April 02, 2019, 08:12:07 pm

I'd like to upgrade to an Epson P800, but it's been out a long time and will probably be replaced soon.  The 3880 was announced a week after I bought the 3800, so I don't want to miss the train again. Any ideas when and what comes next?
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: digitaldog on April 02, 2019, 08:32:58 pm
I'd like to upgrade to an Epson P800, but it's been out a long time and will probably be replaced soon.  The 3880 was announced a week after I bought the 3800, so I don't want to miss the train again. Any ideas when and what comes next?
Those that know will not answer. Those that have no idea will state stuff that's not worth reading.
In the meantime, if you're on a budget and want a P800, a refurb from Epson here:
https://epson.com/Clearance-Center/Inkjet-Printers/c/cc102

Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: texshooter on April 02, 2019, 11:43:07 pm

Great news!  Epson just announced their breakthrough in anti-clog printer head technology.


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April Fools
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: digitaldog on April 03, 2019, 09:04:04 am
April Fools
You are a day late!
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: rdonson on April 03, 2019, 11:35:59 am
The P800 was released in 2015.

I think the 3880 was released in 2009.

So.... if it's a 6 year cycle on this kind of Epson you may have a couple of years before the P800 is superseded.

FWIW I'm delighted with my P800 and I'm not ready to cast it aside.  I'm more concerned with when they might stop support for the printer than when the new shiny one comes out. 
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: Wayne Fox on April 04, 2019, 02:14:11 pm
the 3800 was announced in Sept of 2006, the 3880 was announced in Aug of 2009 (3 years), the p800 was announced in April of 2015 (6 years). I don’t think Epson is on a “cycle”.  Each new printer was driven by improvement in ink technology, the basic design of the printer hasn’t varied much.

There was a lot of interest in better blacks and better longevity which led to the introduction of the p series of printers.There has been a steady improvement over the past generations regarding missing nozzles (clogs or more often air).

I’m not sure what would be next, maybe they can milk a little more gamut out of the inkset (which probably wouldn’t even show up in prints), maybe they can improve the head technology slightly (although the 3800/3880/p800 heads have been the most clog free of any printer out there).  I suppose they could offer a dual MK/PK black system which doesn’t require switching, although if you don’t print with both inks frequently the non used channel can become very problematic (an issue with the original 4800). 

Examine your needs now, but it seems to me you could be waiting a very long time for something that would yield very little or perhaps no benefit when it comes to print quality.
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: faberryman on April 04, 2019, 04:56:54 pm
Examine your needs now, but it seems to me you could be waiting a very long time for something that would yield very little or perhaps no benefit when it comes to print quality.
What are you going to be printing with while you are waiting for Epson to release a successor to the P800?
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: Wayne Fox on April 05, 2019, 01:05:02 am
What are you going to be printing with while you are waiting for Epson to release a successor to the P800?
why are you asking me that question? Personally I’ll be printing with a p800, p5000,and p9000 which I have had since they were released. Maybe direct that to the OP?
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: texshooter on April 05, 2019, 02:47:45 am
I said I want to upgrade.

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Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: faberryman on April 05, 2019, 06:55:18 am
why are you asking me that question? Personally I’ll be printing with a p800, p5000,and p9000 which I have had since they were released. Maybe direct that to the OP?
I am asking the OP.
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: Wayne Fox on April 05, 2019, 11:12:16 pm
I am asking the OP.
guess I’m confused, since you quoted me and not the OP, which implies you were asking me a question.
Title: Re: What comes after P800?
Post by: Wayne Fox on April 05, 2019, 11:19:39 pm
I said I want to upgrade.

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yeah, if the current printer is working well, tough to justify it as an upgrade, since side by side you will have to look very hard to see any differences on side by side comparisons. Longevity is a big upgrade.

To your original questions, and to echo Andrews remarks, those that do know won’t and can’t say, but I would be extremely surprised if the p800 was replaced anytime soon.