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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Digital Image Processing => Topic started by: jtunney on March 27, 2019, 11:13:21 am
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The price for the photography Creative Cloud has gone up to $19.99 for new subscribers. You can get a Lightroom only plan for $9.99. Adobe announced a price increase for the full Creative Cloud and single apps in February, but didn't mention a change to the photography plan. It seems like they're trying to slip this through with little fanfare.
Lightroom is still a fair deal at $9.99 in comparison to the other offerings, but I think this is going to make new users to check out the many alternatives on the market. As someone who teaches photography and editing, I don't know if I can still recommend the Creative Cloud for serious beginners. If your primary interest is just family photography, Instagram and facebook, there are a lot of choices out there.
John
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Are you sure? I just checked and it shows the $9.99 plan. See attached -
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You have to go in with a fresh browser. If the website thinks you're a subscriber you'll see the $9.99 price. Trying clearing cahce and cookies or just download a different browser. Here's a screen shot.
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You have to go in with a fresh browser. If the website thinks you're a subscriber you'll see the $9.99 price. Trying clearing cahce and cookies or just download a different browser. Here's a screen shot.
Is the 1TB of storage new to the plan? I pay $9.99 and I don't think I have any storage, but maybe I do. I wouldn't use it if I did. I think Adobe appropriates rights in your images if you use its storage.
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Is the 1TB of storage new to the plan? I pay $9.99 and I don't think I have any storage, but maybe I do. I wouldn't use it if I did. I think Adobe appropriates rights in your images if you use its storage.
I think the old plan had a small cloud storage, like 20GB. It sure looks like the new plan is more expensive but with 1 TB storage. I will be OK as long as they don't make the legacy customers to buy the new plan as well. If they don't then it will scare folks to keep the subscription alive. Either way they win!
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I think the old plan had a small cloud storage, like 20GB. It sure looks like the new plan is more expensive but with 1 TB storage. I will be OK as long as they don't make the legacy customers to buy the new plan as well. If they don't then it will scare folks to keep the subscription alive. Either way they win!
If they raise the price for existing customers, I will fall back to LR Classic only, and use my copy of PS CS6. I don't need the latest updates for my PS work. Something's got to give.
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FWIW, I just went in an was offered the following deal on the first tab labeled for individuals (US website):
Photography
US$9.99/mo
Includes:
Lightroom
Lightroom Classic
Photoshop
20GB of cloud storage
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If they raise the price for existing customers, I will fall back to LR Classic only, and use my copy of PS CS6. I don't need the latest updates for my PS work. Something's got to give.
I still don't use LR (I should "sublet" it.... :))) So for me Photoshop is a must. I think what they are doing is not advertise the $9.99 plan without the storage but it is still available.
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Adobe website still shows $9.99 for the LR + PS plan with 20GB cloud storage. Even with cache cleared, or in a Chrome incognito window.
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html#photography-mini-plans
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The Photgraphy plan with 1TB at that price has been available for quite a long time. £120 pa is a bit steap for 1TB of storage.
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Adobe website still shows $9.99 for the LR + PS plan with 20GB cloud storage. Even with cache cleared, or in a Chrome incognito window.
https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html#photography-mini-plans (https://www.adobe.com/creativecloud/photography.html#photography-mini-plans)
So now it appears that, it depends.....
Q: I see that the Creative Cloud Photography Plan (20GB, $9.99) is not available on Adobe.com. What is happening?
"From time to time, we run tests on Adobe.com which cover a range of items, including plan options that may or may not be presented to all visitors to Adobe.com. We are currently running a number of tests in the US."
Q: Is this plan still available for purchase?
"Yes, the plan is still available for purchase from Adobe during this test. Contact support to purchase: https://helpx.adobe.com/contact.html";
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Both Amazon and B&H Photo have the $9.99 plan, so the real lesson is don't get caught up on a changing Adobe site and assume this is the only way to buy a subscription; it's not!
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So Adobe is testing some new pricing plans...and everybody's patience :P
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Adobe, if your listening... $20/month is just too much for Photoshop only!
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The price for the photography Creative Cloud has gone up to $19.99 for new subscribers. You can get a Lightroom only plan for $9.99. Adobe announced a price increase for the full Creative Cloud and single apps in February, but didn't mention a change to the photography plan. It seems like they're trying to slip this through with little fanfare.
Lightroom is still a fair deal at $9.99 in comparison to the other offerings, but I think this is going to make new users to check out the many alternatives on the market. As someone who teaches photography and editing, I don't know if I can still recommend the Creative Cloud for serious beginners. If your primary interest is just family photography, Instagram and facebook, there are a lot of choices out there.
John
What would you recommend?
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What would you recommend?
There are plenty of options, two being RawTherapee for raw conversion and Affinity Photo for pixel editing (but certainly not limited to these).
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If it goes to $20/month, it will be worth it (to me) to switch to Capture One and get a perpetual license, which I prefer anyway. Guess I better start thinking about this.
If I need Photoshop, I’ll go back to CS6 perpetual.
Edit: just went to Adobe’s site on my tablet and it still shows the Photography Plan.
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I think CaptureOne with Affinity Photo will be a valid option here.
Regards,
Jaap.
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I can't find a $9.99 "Photography Plan" on my photography computer. The links provided here which are described as showing a $9.99 plan lead me to a $19.99 "Photography Plan".
On my iPhone I can find the $9.99 "Photography Plan".
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Is this weird or what? About a year ago (if memory serves me well) I could only find a $20 a month plan while Andrew Rodney told me the plan was still $10 a month. Somebody at Adobe better wake up!
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Is this weird or what? About a year ago (if memory serves me well) I could only find a $20 a month plan while Andrew Rodney told me the plan was still $10 a month. Somebody at Adobe better wake up!
Yeah, some people simply can't find the right places to buy stuff. :o
Again, if you think the only place you can buy the bundle is on Adobe's site, you're confused (wake up) about the facts of how you can purchase the plan. Two major resellers as outlined will gladly sell the photo plan for $9.99 for the year. Today, last week and last time you looked! The facts are not really weird to those who are not fact deniers. ;)
Andrew Rodney told you it was $9.99 as it still is.....
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You have to go in with a fresh browser. If the website thinks you're a subscriber you'll see the $9.99 price. Trying clearing cahce and cookies or just download a different browser. Here's a screen shot.
The basic Photography plan comes with 25GB of storage for $9.99 to increase to 1TB storage is an additional $10. This has been the pricing since it was introduced. To wit each additional TB of storage is $10.
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Yeah, some people simply can't find the right places to buy stuff. :o
Again, if you think the only place you can buy the bundle is on Adobe's site, you're confused (wake up) about the facts of how you can purchase the plan. Two major resellers as outlined will gladly sell the photo plan for $9.99 for the year. Today, last week and last time you looked! The facts are not really weird to those who are not fact deniers. ;)
Andrew Rodney told you it was $9.99 as it still is.....
Ah, your usual self, I see.
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When this thread began I was able to access adobe.com in different ways, and find instances where the $10 plan was offered and where it was not. Now no matter how I get to adobe.com the $10 plan doesn't show up. At this point it's apparently only available via third parties.
My speculation is the $10 plan is not far from cessation, if we want the Photoshop/Lightroom/Lightroom classic combo we will pay $20/month, with of course the added "benefit" of 1 TB of storage, whether we need it or not. I will bitch and moan, but will pony up to stay in the game.
Richard Southworth
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Ah, your usual self, I see.
Pot calling kettle black. :P
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When this thread began I was able to access adobe.com in different ways, and find instances where the $10 plan was offered and where it was not. Now no matter how I get to adobe.com the $10 plan doesn't show up. At this point it's apparently only available via third parties.
My speculation is the $10 plan is not far from cessation, if we want the Photoshop/Lightroom/Lightroom classic combo we will pay $20/month, with of course the added "benefit" of 1 TB of storage, whether we need it or not. I will bitch and moan, but will pony up to stay in the game.
Richard Southworth
Well Richard, according to Andrew Rodney, you may be just one of those people that simply can't find the right places to shop! ;) I have had the same experience with the Adobe website as you have.
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Well Richard, according to Andrew Rodney, you may be just one of those people that simply can't find the right places to shop! ;) I have had the same experience with the Adobe website as you have.
He may be; you certainly are. Did you learn now where to buy at $9.99?
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Franz,
My comment was purely speculation, I don't need to find a means to purchase because I'm already subscribing at $10/mo. Andrew has stated the situation as it exists today, to his credit he has avoided any non-useful future commentary. When the time comes I will find the right place to shop.
Who knows, perhaps Adobe will grandfather me with the $10 plan until I know longer care. But I doubt it. In the meantime I prefer we stick to the subject and not make sarcastic comments aimed at other participants.
Richard Southworth
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I have just explored (to use a rather grander word than is really merited) the Adobe UK web site.
1. Type adobe.com/uk into your browser's address bar (FWIW, I used Safari on a Mac) and hit return
2. Next to "creative cloud for:" towards the bottom of the page, click "Photographers"
3. Just underneath the image, read "Get the Creative Cloud Photography plan starting at just £9.98/mo incl. VAT" and click "Choose a plan"
4. See the "Buy now" button under "Photography" at the left-hand side.
Found in 13 typed characters (including the return key after the URL) and two mouse clicks. I didn't find that overly challenging; maybe it's trickier in the States. It's a tad more expensive over here, in part due to 20% VAT.
Jeremy
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I have just explored (to use a rather grander word than is really merited) the Adobe UK web site.
1. Type adobe.com/uk into your browser's address bar (FWIW, I used Safari on a Mac) and hit return
2. Next to "creative cloud for:" towards the bottom of the page, click "Photographers"
3. Just underneath the image, read "Get the Creative Cloud Photography plan starting at just £9.98/mo incl. VAT" and click "Choose a plan"
4. See the "Buy now" button under "Photography" at the left-hand side.
Found in 13 typed characters (including the return key after the URL) and two mouse clicks. I didn't find that overly challenging; maybe it's trickier in the States. It's a tad more expensive over here, in part due to 20% VAT.
Jeremy
No it's no more challenging over here. I just checked and it's still listed at $9.99 on the Adobe website. There is a LR only version with 1 TB of cloud storage for $9.99 also listed. I don't see a LR/PS + 1 TB cloud storage option in my pop up window. That doesn't matter to me as I use Amazon Cloud Storage for my back ups.
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Yesterday (in USA) went to adobe.com via several browsers, in-private browsing so that Adobe didn't "know me", could not find a combination where the $10 plan was in place. This morning (Sunday) the photography plan is present, at $10 with 20GB and $20 with 1TB. Obviously either a moving target or I'm bonkers (a real possibility).
So we'll see where it all ends up.
Richard Southworth
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It's still a crapshoot. I've gone to adobe.com with three different browsers (Edge, Firefox, Chrome), inprivate browsing or not, cleared temporary internet files or not, and I bounce back and forth between two pricing windows, one does not offer a $9.99 photograpny plan, and one does.
I haven't pinned down the exact pattern, but I believe Adobe is presenting the page based upon cookie contents, i.e. tracking. That's it, wasted entirely too much time on this exercise, I'm through.
Richard Southworth
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It's still a crapshoot. I've gone to adobe.com with three different browsers (Edge, Firefox, Chrome), inprivate browsing or not, cleared temporary internet files or not, and I bounce back and forth between two pricing windows, one does not offer a $9.99 photograpny plan, and one does.
I haven't pinned down the exact pattern, but I believe Adobe is presenting the page based upon cookie contents, i.e. tracking. That's it, wasted entirely too much time on this exercise, I'm through.
Richard Southworth
It's a crapshoot if you need to figure out unnecessarily, why Adobe' sites fluctuate the price. It's a waste of time if you actually want to purchase the plan; buy elsewhere.
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Perhaps we are lucky in the UK ( ;)?) as Adobe web seems fairly consistent with options and pricing. I am sure they would like us to buy into the larger storage cloud but at least for now things appear to be stable at under £10 per month as the screenshot shows. Still, if you miss that little drop-down menu may be a default to the higher price packages?
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Perhaps we are lucky in the UK ( ;)?) as Adobe web seems fairly consistent with options and pricing. I am sure they would like us to buy into the larger storage cloud but at least for now things appear to be stable at under £10 per month as the screenshot shows. Still, if you miss that little drop-down menu may be a default to the higher price packages?
No, it defaults to the base LR/PS/20 combination.
Jeremy
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I'm from Canada and every time I read these threads I check the Adobe site and it is still $9.99 US. Apparently they do spilt testing once in a while to test the waters. When they do this a similar thread gets started at multiple sites. I can tell you if it ever doubles in price I will press the cancel plan button which is about 20 seconds away. I tested it. I do expect an increase one day. After 5 years or so the All Apps plan went up 6% which would be is about out 60 cents for the photo plan. I'd be OK with that.
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Against my better judgment, to defend my sanity, I'm posting the following two screenshots from a few minutes ago. The first is using Edge InPrivate, and the second is Edge normal, just after clearing temporary Internet files. I'm braced and ready for Andrew to let me know that my effort is fruitless, third parties offer the cheaper plan, and I shouldn't be concerned with Adobe website games.
Richard Southworth
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I'm braced and ready for Andrew to let me know that my effort is fruitless, third parties offer the cheaper plan, and I shouldn't be concerned with Adobe website games.
Richard Southworth
OK, it is fruitless, third parties offer the cheaper plan, and you shouldn't be concerned with Adobe website games. ;)
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Exhale!
Richard Southworth
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The prices I paid for my PSCS6 and LR6 seem very appealing now. ;)
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Against my better judgment, to defend my sanity, I'm posting the following two screenshots from a few minutes ago. The first is using Edge InPrivate, and the second is Edge normal, just after clearing temporary Internet files. I'm braced and ready for Andrew to let me know that my effort is fruitless, third parties offer the cheaper plan, and I shouldn't be concerned with Adobe website games.
Richard Southworth
Stop using Edge and fir that matter Internet Explorer. It’s a conspiracy between MS and Adobe to rob our sanity and apply insidious mind control ;)
Seriously though that is a weird result and I have no idea why that should be the case. Except for my first only slightly tongue in cheek reply about MS browsers
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We can do the same trick with Firefox (see attached). Chrome today seems to consistently give me the $9.99 plan option. I used to have Safari on my W10 system but Apple decided to can that option.
Richard Southworth
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Could be that Firefox in the normal mode uses the cookies stored by Adobe that informs the website that you already have the basic $9.99 plan so you must be looking for an upgraded plan.
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Could be, although I've seen instances where accessing with Edge or Firefox or Chrome in normal mode, i.e. cookie accessible, would return the lower cost plan option. My guess it's a function of which server I catch at the Adobe farm.
Richard Southworth
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Could be, although I've seen instances where accessing with Edge or Firefox or Chrome in normal mode, i.e. cookie accessible, would return the lower cost plan option. My guess it's a function of which server I catch at the Adobe farm.
Richard Southworth
Adobe is just screwing with us.
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Adobe is just screwing with us.
Speak for yourself. ;)
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Speak for yourself. ;)
Except you, of course! :)
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Speak for yourself. ;)
I started with LR3 and have had stand alone copies of LR3, LR4, LR5, and LR6. When I bought an XT2 in 2016, and it wasn't compatible with LR6, I upgraded to LR Classic CC. I have been happy with the incremental upgrades since LR6 and believe $10/month is a fair price. If you don't, there are plenty of alternatives. Just because a company charges more than you want to pay for a product doesn't mean they are screwing you. There are lots of products and services in the marketplace that I think are too expensive for what they offer. Life is too short to worry about it, much less spend time commenting on it.
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Except you, of course! :)
I only speak for myself. So, that's wrong too. ;)
IF Adobe is screwing you, you can stop or maybe you like it? :P
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I only speak for myself. So, that's wrong too. ;)
IF Adobe is screwing you, you can stop or maybe you like it? :P
I am sure other people understood what I meant. You seem to have taken an offense to that. Are you paid by Adobe that you can not allow any critique on this forum?
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I am sure other people understood what I said. You seem to have taken an offense to that. Are you paid by Adobe that you can allow any critique on this forum?
So now you're not only speaking for others, you're interpreting for them too? I take no offense expect being lumped into your generalization* about others that isn't true for me. And at least one other person who replied to your post speaking for them about being screwed has shown you don't speak for him either.
No, I'm not paid by Adobe to critique this forum. Not that if I were it would make your post any less silly:
*All generalizations are false, including this one.-Mark Twain
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So now you're not only speaking for others, you're interpreting for them too? I take no offense expect being lumped into your generalization* about others that isn't true for me. And at least one other person who replied to your post speaking for them about being screwed has shown you don't speak for him either.
No, I'm not paid by Adobe to critique this forum. Not that if I were it would make your post any less silly:
*All generalizations are false, including this one.-Mark Twain
So first I spoke for all of us. You didn't want to be included in it so I excepted you. Then what was your problem? You also took exception at my speaking for others? Isn't that you speak for others? You seem to be doing what you don't want me to do. Even if you are not getting paid, you sure seem to be sensitive to any negative view of Adobe.
P.S. By the way, there is a difference between "screwing" and "screwing with." And when I said "us" I was conversing with the person I quoted my reply with and not the general public. Your butting in was uncalled for.
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So first I spoke for all of us. You didn't want to be included in it so I excepted you. Then what was your problem? You also took exception at my speaking for others? Isn't that you speak for others? You seem to be doing what you don't want me to do. Even if you are not getting paid, you sure seem to be sensitive to any negative view of Adobe.
P.S. By the way, there is a difference between "screwing" and "screwing with." And when I said "us" I was conversing with the person I quoted my reply with and not the general public. Your butting in was uncalled for.
Your statements were generalizations, silly and solely YOUR opinion. You were called out for lumping others into your sole opinion; deal with it. Or better, keep this concept in mind from two well know fellows:
"Think twice before you speak, because your words and influence will plant the seed of either success or failure in the mind of another." - Napoleon
"I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me"-Arthur Conan Doyle
In my mind, your post was a failure for the reasons I expressed. Again, if you feel Adobe is screwing you or screwing with you, there's an easy solution to this feeling of persecution you can conduct.
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Your statements were generalizations, silly and solely YOUR opinion. You were called out for lumping others into your sole opinion; deal with it. Or better, keep this concept in mind from two well know fellows:
"Think twice before you speak, because your words and influence will plant the seed of either success or failure in the mind of another." - Napoleon
"I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me"-Arthur Conan Doyle
In my mind, your post was a failure for the reasons I expressed. Again, if you feel Adobe is screwing you or screwing with you, there's an easy solution to this feeling of persecution you can conduct.
I don't have to take your advice. Next time anything I say, it is not applicable to you. This is my blanket disclaimer. Please get a life.
Good bye!
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I don't have to take your advcse.
Nor do you have to take my advise or Napoleon's or Doyle's.
Next time anything I say, it is not applicable to you. This is my blanket disclaimer. Please get a life.
Good bye!
Good call!
First law on holes - when you're in one, stop digging!
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The prices I paid for my PSCS6 and LR6 seem very appealing now. ;)
Unless you buy a new camera that is not supported by legacy programs. When I got my Nikon Z6 not only did I have to purchase the yearly subscription to LR/PS but I had to move to Windows 10 because Adobe no longer supports Win 8.1 so this was a double whammy. That being said, I do like the new features in LR!!!
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Unless you buy a new camera that is not supported by legacy programs. When I got my Nikon Z6 not only did I have to purchase the yearly subscription to LR/PS but I had to move to Windows 10 because Adobe no longer supports Win 8.1 so this was a double whammy. That being said, I do like the new features in LR!!!
Couldn't convert to DNG? Yeah, it's an extra step (and there are some advantages too), no, you don't have to upgrade your software. Although Adobe could actually attempt to screw customers by NOT providing this free option.
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Couldn't convert to DNG? Yeah, it's an extra step (and there are some advantages too), no, you don't have to upgrade your software. Although Adobe could actually attempt to screw customers by NOT providing this free option.
I could have done that but staying on LR6 stand alone would not give me any of the new enhancements. I have found Windows 10 to be exceptionally stable and have no issues at all.
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...you sure seem to be sensitive to any negative view of Adobe.
Yes he is. And if you really want to get him going, just mention NEC.
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Yes he is. And if you really want to get him going, just mention NEC.
Only gets me going when certain people mention stupid comments about either. Of complain about sensor heating that's a non issue. :P
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Mods, let's get things under control here. Really is getting pitiful...
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I also think this topic could be closed since the titels suggestion appears not true.
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I also think this topic could be closed since the titels suggestion appears not true.
+1
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I was, with depression, about to revert to my role as kindergarten playground teacher, yes.
Jeremy