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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: rabanito on January 11, 2019, 12:49:11 pm

Title: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 11, 2019, 12:49:11 pm
This morning

Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: RSL on January 11, 2019, 12:59:04 pm
Nice, Rab. Too bad about the power lines.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 11, 2019, 01:02:29 pm
Nice, Rab. Too bad about the power lines.
Some "Photoshop Terrorists" will cut them before printing  8)

I've seen a movie from Iceland (Woman at War) where a lady does exactly that :-)

I'll ask her
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 11, 2019, 01:10:21 pm
Some "Photoshop Terrorists" will cut them before printing  8)
Well before the days of Content-aware Fill, a photographer friend of mine always carried a chain saw in his car in case adjustments were needed before setting up his 11x14" view camera.   :)

Nice scene, Rab.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on January 11, 2019, 03:15:27 pm
Lovely scene. Worth putting in a bit of effort to remove the power lines, I'd say.

Jeremy
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 11, 2019, 04:49:01 pm
Lovely scene. Worth putting in a bit of effort to remove the power lines, I'd say.

Jeremy
Yes. But not with a chainsaw.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 11, 2019, 05:17:11 pm
Yes. But not with a chainsaw.

Of course not. The lady in the movie sends an arrow over the lines with a rope attached to it. Then she goes to the other side and from there pulls the rope, which is attached to a naked wire and short-circuits the power lines.

I prefer "content awareness", doesn't need rubber gloves nor boots  ;D
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: luxborealis on January 13, 2019, 12:07:55 pm
Lovely tones and presentation and strong composition.. I’m in agreement about the power lines, even the chainsaw, Eric, if only to stir things up a little in what seems like a quaint place.  ;)

My concern lies with the hallowing around the trees. If it’s intentional then, so be it. To each his own. I’m noticing this ‘style’ more frequently, intentional or (in most cases) not.

If it is not intentional, then I suggest working towards adding Clarity/Contrast/Exposure to the sky within the tree branches as well as the larger sky. It’s fairly easily done with adept use of the adjustment brush in LR, especially because the branches are fairly dark and would hide any overlap of the treatment. Alternatively, you could add your ‘sky adjustments’ to a grad mask and selectively  ‘Erase’ the effect on areas you don’t want it, such as the branches, leaving it intact between the branches.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 13, 2019, 01:21:30 pm
My concern lies with the hallowing around the trees. If it’s intentional then, so be it. To each his own. I’m noticing this ‘style’ more frequently, intentional or (in most cases) not.

Actually it is a glowing effect created by the discharges coming from the power lines to the trees.  :)

Now seriously thank you for the observation. No it is not intentional.
At first I though it could be an optical illusion but it is really there
Is that what you mean?
I'll try my hand on this following your advice.


Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: luxborealis on January 13, 2019, 08:33:54 pm
Actually it is a glowing effect created by the discharges coming from the power lines to the trees.  :)

Now seriously thank you for the observation. No it is not intentional.
At first I though it could be an optical illusion but it is really there
Is that what you mean?
I'll try my hand on this following your advice.

Yes that’s it.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on January 14, 2019, 07:34:30 am
I like as it is. If you remove the power lines, do you leave the pylons?
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 14, 2019, 08:29:35 am
I like as it is. If you remove the power lines, do you leave the pylons?

Hmmm... Good observation...

But:
If I'd removed the power lines before uploading the picture. Would anybody have discovered the pylons?

Well, very possible, there are many people here with very good eyes  :)

Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 19, 2019, 09:05:15 am
Ok, I am officially confused. What “hallowing” and what is “hallowing”!?
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 19, 2019, 09:21:52 am
Ok, I am officially confused. What “hallowing” and what is “hallowing”!?
I think he meant "haloing."
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 19, 2019, 09:26:09 am
Ok, I am officially confused. What “hallowing” and what is “hallowing”!?

And so was I. I guessed that the term was coined by luxborealis (s.above his comment) and uploaded a mask where the halos can be well distinguished (s. above my second comm.) and he confirmed that that was what he meant

I'm not acquainted with many English or American idioms but with some detective work I usually get it  :-X
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 19, 2019, 09:29:15 am
I think he meant "haloing."

If so, I am still confused. What haloing!?

I thought I am the Nitpicker-In-Chief here, even if I often refrain from posting about it, but looking as hard as I can on the 800px jpeg (not the thumbnail) I still can’t see any in the OP.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 19, 2019, 09:36:35 am
... uploaded a mask where the halos can be well distinguished...

I see what you mean. Have you used Clarity in the OP? That would typically cause it.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 19, 2019, 10:41:03 am
I see what you mean. Have you used Clarity in the OP? That would typically cause it.
Looks like it happens in HDR processing. This picture is a HDR

I found this article
http://hdr-photographer.com/?s=halos
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: luxborealis on January 19, 2019, 12:23:15 pm
And so was I. I guessed that the term was coined by luxborealis (s.above his comment) and uploaded a mask where the halos can be well distinguished (s. above my second comm.) and he confirmed that that was what he meant

I'm not acquainted with many English or American idioms but with some detective work I usually get it  :-X

My apologies... autocorrect didn’t like ‘haloing’ (it still doesn’t!) and I didn’t proofread! At times, even the forums would benefit from an editor!  ;)
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 19, 2019, 12:34:40 pm
Looks like it happens in HDR processing. This picture is a HDR...

Yes, automated HDR software are known for all sorts of artifacts, let alone dreadful aesthetics.

However, I fail to see that the image in question required HDR approach. It seems it could be handled by the standard set of LR adjustments, which would give you a better control of halos, among other things.
Title: Re: The River Aare
Post by: rabanito on January 19, 2019, 03:34:15 pm

However, I fail to see that the image in question required HDR approach. It seems it could be handled by the standard set of LR adjustments, which would give you a better control of halos, among other things.

I tend to agree with that.
Actually I was doing something different, looking in the opposite direction, with the Sun on my back
When I finished and turned around to fetch my things and go I saw this landscape.

I decided to compose the picture and then bracket the exposures, just in case. I was really leaving by then.

I was curious about this HDR thing and so later I tried it with the three bracketed shots. I liked the result and left it at that

It was useful, now I know more about those hallowed haloes   :D