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Raw & Post Processing, Printing => Printing: Printers, Papers and Inks => Topic started by: shridere on December 10, 2018, 02:51:33 pm

Title: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: shridere on December 10, 2018, 02:51:33 pm
Does anyone know who manufactures the unframed print hanging system that shows up in pictures of the LuLa offices or similar systems?
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: howardm on December 10, 2018, 03:30:18 pm
From what I recall, I think it's LuLa's own Kevin Raber that is making them w/ his woodworking skills.

I believe he was looking into productizing them but not sure.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Kevin Raber on December 10, 2018, 04:31:44 pm
The frames are made by me, or I should say a friend.  I am thinking of mass producing them but have been caught up lately in a lot of busy work.  What sizes would you be interested in?
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: mandodude on December 11, 2018, 07:47:22 am
Can someone post a close up photo or two?  I've noticed these too but can't figure out how they work.  Nice designd
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Alan Goldhammer on December 11, 2018, 08:36:58 am
I use these for my home displays:  https://posterhanger.com/  They work quite well and one can swap out prints in about a minute.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 11, 2018, 09:13:26 am
A friend of mine uses the Posterhangers that Alan mentioned, and they look quite elegant and easy to change prints.
I am tempted to get some myself.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: mbaginy on December 11, 2018, 04:41:01 pm
I use these for my home displays:  https://posterhanger.com/  They work quite well and one can swap out prints in about a minute.
I have a couple dozen of these poster hangers, in various lengths.  Elegant, excellent quality, quick to use and cost effective.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: luxborealis on December 11, 2018, 06:01:47 pm
Does anyone know of a wooden version of the same - without the (ugly) cord at the top for hanging?
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: rdonson on December 11, 2018, 06:35:53 pm
I've been happy with PosterHangers.  I get prompt shipping on orders and they work great for me.  I order the black color.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: mfrohman on December 11, 2018, 11:10:55 pm
These are made of various woods and attach directly to the wall, no hanging cord: https://www.wearewellmade.com/shop/stiicks
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 12, 2018, 12:19:56 am
I found it very difficult to install prints in poster hangers without ripples. Any advice welcome.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: arobinson7547 on December 12, 2018, 08:16:31 am
Peter, I was thinking the same thing about the 'Sticks' . I'd prefer those but it 'seems' like you would have a time trying to get it aligned, just so.  With the Posterhangers, seems gravity is your friend
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: John Nollendorfs on December 12, 2018, 11:53:11 am
You can buy 1/2" plastic conduit for about $1.25/ 10ft lengths. I cut it to required length on my  chop saw, then cut a slot on my table saw for the print to hang from. Since there is printing on the grey conduit, and spray paint them black. Hanging on wall, I use two 1-1/4" roofing nails spaced 8-10" apart. The big nail heads slip on the slot, and you can move left and right as desired to center. Keep print in the slot by attaching 3/8" wide cut crack & peel foam board to bottom & top edges of print. Simple, cheap, prints store flat.
https://photos.app.goo.gl/3MzMTzXy7cLo17C67
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: rdonson on December 12, 2018, 12:15:12 pm
I found it very difficult to install prints in poster hangers without ripples. Any advice welcome.

If you don't have a flat print or you don't use the plastic clips spaced properly in both the top and bottom bars that can happen. 

What kind of paper weights are you hanging (gsm)?  If the paper is very thin then perhaps ripples are more likely.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: luxborealis on December 12, 2018, 08:50:12 pm
These are made of various woods and attach directly to the wall, no hanging cord: https://www.wearewellmade.com/shop/stiicks

Thank you. I knew I had seen them somewhere.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 12, 2018, 08:55:51 pm
Ron, the prints are pretty flat to begin with.  I even tried sheets, rather than cuts from rolls.  The poster hangers I got clamped the print with a kind of cam action.  No matter how carefully I closed the hanger, it distorted the sheet, causing the ripples.

John, your system looks like it has great potential.  Your images show an excellent presentation, far nicer than my result.

Can you show how they hang on the wall?  I don't see the topside hanger wires that others (and me) didn't like.

Also, I don't see how the roofing nails come in to play.  Can you photograph that part?
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: John Nollendorfs on December 13, 2018, 11:56:01 am

John, your system looks like it has great potential.  Your images show an excellent presentation, far nicer than my result.

Can you show how they hang on the wall?  I don't see the topside hanger wires that others (and me) didn't like.

Also, I don't see how the roofing nails come in to play.  Can you photograph that part?

Peter:
There is no clamping required, very simple system requiring only gravity. The roofing nails are left protuding about 3/4", and the slot of the conduit wedges onto the nail head behind the hanging print. Tried to picture it here, with no print attached, just showing the conduit supported by the nails. https://photos.app.goo.gl/Q1ZtWXzZj77tmaKu5

For many years, I drilled small holes into the conduit near the ends, and then used 6p finishing nails in the wall to support it. You can imagine what a pain it was to drive the nails precisely, to match the holes in the conduit. The large heads of the roofing nails slipping into the slot behind the print proved to be such a simple answer. I've used various other techniques to keep the prints in the conduit, including stapling thin strips of cardboard  to the print, but using the crack & peel foam board stripos still seems the easiest.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 13, 2018, 12:15:36 pm
Excellent, Jon. Thanks.

So the nails and the print both occupy the slot? Must be interesting attaching the whole assembly to the wall.
 
Do the foamcore strips have to be as wide as the print?

Of course, the foamcore strip is now permanently attached to the print...

OK, I'm off to do some experimenting.  Thanks again!
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: rdonson on December 13, 2018, 12:40:41 pm
Ron, the prints are pretty flat to begin with.  I even tried sheets, rather than cuts from rolls.  The poster hangers I got clamped the print with a kind of cam action.  No matter how carefully I closed the hanger, it distorted the sheet, causing the ripples.

John, your system looks like it has great potential.  Your images show an excellent presentation, far nicer than my result.

Can you show how they hang on the wall?  I don't see the topside hanger wires that others (and me) didn't like.

Also, I don't see how the roofing nails come in to play.  Can you photograph that part?

Perhaps we're not using the same "Posterhanger".  Here's what I use.  https://posterhanger.com/pages/how-it-works
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Matthew63 on December 18, 2018, 12:02:40 pm
these seem so simple!
order for myself pending!
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 18, 2018, 08:00:25 pm
Perhaps we're not using the same "Posterhanger".  Here's what I use.  https://posterhanger.com/pages/how-it-works

No, Ron, those aren't what I got.  Mine were ordered from a retail presentations supplier.
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: howardm on December 19, 2018, 09:00:49 am
Peter,
Do you have a URL or other info on what you are using?
Title: Re: LuLa Office Unframed Print Hangers
Post by: Peter McLennan on December 19, 2018, 09:51:21 am
Peter,
Do you have a URL or other info on what you are using?

I’ll look, but I’m not optimistic.  This was several years ago.  I got just one as a sample from a retail display supplies place in Toronto.