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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: shadowblade on December 05, 2018, 10:27:42 am

Title: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: shadowblade on December 05, 2018, 10:27:42 am
Early autumn colours around the cemetery at Chion-in temple, Higashiyama, Kyoto.

A7r3 with 24-70/2.8 GM at 35mm, f/8, 1/80s ISO 100.

Difficult to process well for web, since sRGB hates greens and cyans.
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: RSL on December 05, 2018, 10:40:52 am
Very nice, Blade. The Japanese seem to have an inbred or inborn esthetic sense.
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: 32BT on December 05, 2018, 11:36:09 am
Early autumn colours around the cemetery at Chion-in temple, Higashiyama, Kyoto.

A7r3 with 24-70/2.8 GM at 35mm, f/8, 1/80s ISO 100.

Difficult to process well for web, since sRGB hates greens and cyans.

Only if they are Sony greens and cyans. ;-)

It does bring up the question of processing though, the image seems to lack contrast overall and exhibits slightly oversaturated shadowtones. In addition, while this may be completely void of lens defects i wonder whether a bit of vignetting would actually help the composition get some depth.

maybe we could ask Dave to send you his Battis. (https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=127179.msg1080469#msg1080469)

Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: shadowblade on December 05, 2018, 12:00:09 pm
Only if they are Sony greens and cyans. ;-)

It does bring up the question of processing though, the image seems to lack contrast overall and exhibits slightly oversaturated shadowtones. In addition, while this may be completely void of lens defects i wonder whether a bit of vignetting would actually help the composition get some depth.

maybe we could ask Dave to send you his Battis. (https://forum.luminous-landscape.com/index.php?topic=127179.msg1080469#msg1080469)

To me, it looks good in Photoshop, good on my phone (Samsung S7 Edge) and awful in both Chrome and Firefox (set to full colour management, and checks out as working properly, but, on my calibrated, wide gamut monitor, it looks over-contrasty, with hypersaturated reds, yellows shifted towards red and greens shifted towards cyan). But every photo looks similarly awful in Firefox/Chrome. Apart from on the phone, I can never tell how a photo looks on the web - I'd throw out the display, but need it for Adobe RGB/Profoto RGB editing in Photoshop.
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: guido on December 05, 2018, 12:28:00 pm
Have you tried to softproof using sRGB as the profile?
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: shadowblade on December 05, 2018, 12:30:12 pm
Have you tried to softproof using sRGB as the profile?

Yes.

No problems in Photoshop. The moment I open it in Chrome or Firefox, it looks awful (as does every other photo).

Firefox didn't always do this - it used to work perfectly, until an update a few years ago. Since then, I'm not sure that colour management has been working properly, even though the various test websites out there say that it is.
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: 32BT on December 05, 2018, 03:13:29 pm
Interestingly, the image does not seem to have a profile attached. Is this correct/intentional?
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: guido on December 05, 2018, 03:44:03 pm
What os and versions are you running?
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: shadowblade on December 05, 2018, 05:59:26 pm
Interestingly, the image does not seem to have a profile attached. Is this correct/intentional?

It was saved as sRGB. Not sure why it wouldn't have a profile - Photoshop includes the profile by default.

Running Windows 7.
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: guido on December 06, 2018, 09:24:30 am
It has been a while now, but I do remember having to chase way more color management issues with win7 than win10. Don't know of a specific issue to point to but just saying... Win10 (two desktops and a laptop) has been just install, profile and go. No fuss or muss...
Title: Re: Early autumn colours in Kyoto
Post by: Paulo Bizarro on December 06, 2018, 11:21:31 am
Looks good to me. I would perhaps crop a bit of the bridge, it overwhelms the rest of the elements.