Post by: RSL on November 29, 2018, 10:31:53 am
Post by: biker on January 02, 2019, 03:57:18 pm
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 02, 2019, 07:43:35 pm
Not all landscape needs to be trees and waterfalls.
Post by: BradSmith on January 02, 2019, 09:01:30 pm
Not all street has to be underexposed curbs, sidewalks, silhouettes of people and storefronts. ;)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 03, 2019, 12:25:22 am
Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 07:13:34 am
Post by: 32BT on January 03, 2019, 07:40:39 am
What is landscape? Considering arguments regarding street, seems a fair question -- about any genre. I doubt there's a valid verbal definition of landscape.
Street (in the broad sense of the word) is defined as "not in the studio". Landscape definitely is not in the studio. Your picture seems a studio cleverly disguised as a café. So it is neither street, nor landscape. Simple.
;-)
Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 08:11:43 am
How about if the flower picture includes a couple square feet of dirt? Or grass?
Notice, Oscar, that this picture includes a tree outside the front window.
Post by: 32BT on January 03, 2019, 08:24:11 am
Is a picture of a single flower landscape?
Of course not, that's "nature".
How about if the flower picture includes a couple square feet of dirt? Or grass?
It may be "architecture" under some circumstances...
Notice, Oscar, that this picture includes a tree outside the front window.
Well, if that was the true intent of your image, are you sure you're wearing the correct subscription glasses?
(sorry, couldn't resist).
;-)
Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 10:21:17 am
Golly, when you try to define visual art genres with words you really can get wrapped around the axle.
Yet, anyone you ask will tell you they know exactly what "landscape" means., even though they can't define it.
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on January 03, 2019, 10:34:58 am
Post by: Ivophoto on January 03, 2019, 11:43:26 am
It could be a TV screen atmospheric.
Or a furniture atmospheric.
Or just another ‘I’m bored sitting in a pub’ atmospheric.
No, it is a ‘start a discussion no matter about what’ atmospheric.
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 03, 2019, 12:11:22 pm
This shot is wider than it is high, so it must be Landscape. ;D
Post by: amolitor on January 03, 2019, 12:13:33 pm
There is a large grey area between sick and healthy, between rich and poor, and yet we seem to have no trouble agreeing that these are categories which exist. Perhaps it's true that street photos and landscape photos also exist.
Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 12:28:27 pm
It’s an atmospheric, not sure what kind of an atmospheric, but an atmospheric it is.
It could be a TV screen atmospheric.
Or a furniture atmospheric.
Or just another ‘I’m bored sitting in a pub’ atmospheric.
No, it is a ‘start a discussion no matter about what’ atmospheric.
Every photograph is an "atmospheric" Ivo.
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on January 03, 2019, 12:32:17 pm
Every photograph is an "atmospheric" Ivo.
Not the stuff shot on the moon. No atmosphere there.
Post by: Ivophoto on January 03, 2019, 02:03:01 pm
Every photograph is an "atmospheric" Ivo.
Does this mean we agree on something?
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190103/0dd413732276f15ddd734ca330782426.jpg)
Post by: Ivophoto on January 03, 2019, 02:05:03 pm
There are, of course, really only three "classic" genres: Landscape, Portrait, and Square.
This shot is wider than it is high, so it must be Landscape. ;D
There is a lot of color distraction, .....
Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 02:17:46 pm
Not the stuff shot on the moon. No atmosphere there.
Good point, Martin. Most accurate observation yet in this thread.
Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 02:18:54 pm
Does this mean we agree on something?
Unbelievable as it may seem, looks as if we do, Ivo.
Post by: rabanito on January 03, 2019, 02:19:45 pm
This shot is wider than it is high, so it must be Landscape. ;DA good one :)
Post by: rabanito on January 03, 2019, 02:20:40 pm
Not the stuff shot on the moon. No atmosphere there.Another good one :)
Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 02:20:51 pm
There are, of course, really only three "classic" genres: Landscape, Portrait, and Square.
This shot is wider than it is high, so it must be Landscape. ;D
Actually, Eric, there's one other one: Drivers' License Photo. That's a genre anybody should be able to recognize at a glance.
Post by: rabanito on January 03, 2019, 02:21:59 pm
HELP!!!
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 03, 2019, 04:09:28 pm
I think I'm surrounded by Intelligent People...
HELP!!!
Everyone who went insane was once intelligent. Hope it helps ;)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 03, 2019, 04:17:53 pm
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Post by: RSL on January 03, 2019, 07:47:46 pm
From an International Photography Awards (IPA) invitation (emphasis mine):
Problem is, they, like many similar outfits insist that street involves an urban landscape. It doesn't, as anyone who's studied the great street photographers will tell you.
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on January 04, 2019, 01:21:26 am
Post by: Ivophoto on January 04, 2019, 03:38:41 am
In the history of photography only four people have ever understood what Street Photography actualy is and three of them are dead.
I ‘m afraid we are stuck with the one remaining authority: Bruce Gilden.
Post by: RSL on January 04, 2019, 07:10:13 am
Post by: Martin Kristiansen on January 04, 2019, 07:27:53 am
I ‘m afraid we are stuck with the one remaining authority: Bruce Gilden.
Obviously I wasn’t referring to Bruce Gilden.
Post by: Ivophoto on January 04, 2019, 07:30:03 am
Obviously I wasn’t referring to Bruce Gilden.
Post by: faberryman on January 04, 2019, 07:37:13 am
I'll take any image from Bruce Gilden over this one. Can't believe it survived even a cursory edit.
Post by: rabanito on January 04, 2019, 08:57:26 am
I'll take any image from Bruce Gilden over this one. Can't believe it survived even a cursory edit.I had to google this Bruce Gilden
I've already forgotten who this is.
Old Age?
Post by: RSL on January 04, 2019, 08:59:46 am
I'll take any image from Bruce Gilden over this one. Can't believe it survived even a cursory edit.
You’re not paying attention, Fab. This picture isn’t street. It’s landscape.
Post by: RSL on January 04, 2019, 09:02:55 am
I had to google this Bruce Gilden
I've already forgotten who this is.
Old Age?
Nah, Rab! Gilden just isn't that big a deal. He's pretty forgettable. Here's a clip to refresh your memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM
Post by: faberryman on January 04, 2019, 09:46:21 am
You’re not paying attention, Fab. This picture isn’t street. It’s landscape.No, it is neither. It's a reject.
Post by: RSL on January 04, 2019, 10:22:35 am
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 04, 2019, 10:34:19 am
Yeah. Gilden thinks street photography involves walking down a crowded street in a photographer's equipment vest, flash in his left hand, which he sticks in people's faces, and then shoots. He's a real authority on the subject.
I agree. Magnum too.
Post by: rabanito on January 04, 2019, 11:35:12 am
Nah, Rab! Gilden just isn't that big a deal. He's pretty forgettable. Here's a clip to refresh your memory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkIWW6vwrvM
Interesting. And such a character is permitted to roam free through the streets of NY unpunished?
You are a very tolerant people.
Probably he chooses his subjects cautiously or else he would lose his teeth. Or roams with bodyguards.
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 04, 2019, 11:39:32 am
...You are a very tolerant people...
More likely blasé. It is NY, after all.
Post by: RSL on January 04, 2019, 11:57:31 am
Interesting. And such a character is permitted to roam free through the streets of NY unpunished?
You are a very tolerant people.
Probably he chooses his subjects cautiously or else he would lose his teeth. Or roams with bodyguards.
Right, Rab. As I wrote in On Street Photography (https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/), "I'm always surprised when I realize he's still alive." But Slobodan has a point: NY is crazy enough that people just shrug the guy off.
Post by: Dave (Isle of Skye) on January 04, 2019, 12:14:45 pm
Although if you don't mind me giving you a small tip or two here Russ, but next time why not try to actually step outside for your next attempt at a landscape shot, as you might find that this way, you can avoid having the main source of light within the shot, coming from fluorescent lights, neon tubes and TV screens etc. I would also advise that if you do include any wood or natural elements within the shot, that they are still alive and attached to the trees etc., and not just converted into to tables and chairs and beer mats etc., as this will greatly enhance the 'natural', untouched by the hand of man feel of the scene.
But as I say, this is a great shot Russ and makes me want to put on my hiking boots and explore this amazing wild and untouched vista and perhaps even do a bit of wild camping and pick up a natural tan at the same time.
Good one..!
Dave
Post by: Ivophoto on January 04, 2019, 12:27:27 pm
Congratulations Russ, this might just be the best landscape scene you have ever shown us ;DNot forget to grab the bar, put you feet against the spittoon, lean back and let it go. Just be careful which pad you use.
Although if you don't mind me giving you a small tip or two here Russ, but next time why not try to actually step outside for your next attempt at a landscape shot, as you might find that this way, you can avoid having the main source of light within the shot, coming from fluorescent lights, neon tubes and TV screens etc. I would also advise that if you do include any wood or natural elements within the shot, that they are still alive and attached to the trees etc., and not just converted into to tables and chairs and beer mats etc., as this will greatly enhance the 'natural', untouched by the hand of man feel of the scene.
But as I say, this is a great shot Russ and makes me want to put on my hiking boots and explore this amazing wild and untouched vista and perhaps even do a bit of wild camping and pick up a natural tan at the same time.
Good one..!
Dave
Post by: rabanito on January 04, 2019, 12:44:45 pm
Right, Rab. As I wrote in On Street Photography (https://luminous-landscape.com/on-street-photography/)Liked your article Russ. Thanks
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 04, 2019, 12:55:40 pm
... But as I say, this is a great shot Russ and makes me want to put on my hiking boots and explore this amazing wild and untouched vista and perhaps even do a bit of wild camping and pick up a natural tan at the same time...
At this point, during the government shutdown, it would be a much better choice than the national parks you visited recently. This one has functioning indoor toilets 😉
Post by: RSL on January 04, 2019, 02:58:25 pm
Congratulations Russ, this might just be the best landscape scene you have ever shown us ;D
Although if you don't mind me giving you a small tip or two here Russ, but next time why not try to actually step outside for your next attempt at a landscape shot, as you might find that this way, you can avoid having the main source of light within the shot, coming from fluorescent lights, neon tubes and TV screens etc. I would also advise that if you do include any wood or natural elements within the shot, that they are still alive and attached to the trees etc., and not just converted into to tables and chairs and beer mats etc., as this will greatly enhance the 'natural', untouched by the hand of man feel of the scene.
But as I say, this is a great shot Russ and makes me want to put on my hiking boots and explore this amazing wild and untouched vista and perhaps even do a bit of wild camping and pick up a natural tan at the same time.
Good one..!
Dave
Thanks, Dave. I was pretty sure you'd appreciate great landscape like this.