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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: BJL on November 10, 2018, 02:54:33 pm

Title: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: BJL on November 10, 2018, 02:54:33 pm
Since none of the good photographers in this forum have made the move yet, here is an attempt to start a place for sharing and discussing monochrome images, no matter how they were produced. Just a quick scan of an old print, deliberately(?) setting a low bar.

Maybe a section for just sharing without the emphasis on "critique"?

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 10, 2018, 03:06:01 pm
Nice picture; the first thing to strike me was the very Picasso eyes!

Rob
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: BJL on November 10, 2018, 03:19:06 pm
Rob,

    You are very kind.  Here is another, less heavy on the sepia. If it were digital, I could probably clone out all hints of modernity.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 10, 2018, 04:03:52 pm
Here are a couple of contributions.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Dave Rosser on November 10, 2018, 05:25:45 pm
This one is just to see if I can link to my monochrome portfolio.
http://www.rosser.org.uk/content/DSC_1777-Edit-Edit_large.html
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Ivophoto on November 10, 2018, 05:38:40 pm
Monochrome portrait on 8x10”

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181110/60d885846e6ef685c9aaa76b2a2cc946.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on November 10, 2018, 06:00:35 pm
Here are a couple of contributions.

The blanket is familiar, Eric; but I love the textures in the second. Made for monochrome treatment.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Ghaag on November 10, 2018, 06:14:53 pm
Monochrome portrait on 8x10”

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181110/60d885846e6ef685c9aaa76b2a2cc946.jpg)

Beautiful image
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Telecaster on November 10, 2018, 09:44:58 pm
Here are a couple of contributions.

Photo #1: yummy croissa…oh.  ;D

-Dave-
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 10, 2018, 11:33:26 pm
Thanks, Jeremy and Dave.
Both were from a 4x5" view camera, back in the 1960s.
The "knots" shot was actually the bench of my parent's picnic table, when the light was striking it just right.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 11, 2018, 01:40:50 am
A couple of early digitals. I find monochrome rendering challenging enough, never mind getting a print that really sings.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not alway a black and white issue)
Post by: Dave Rosser on November 12, 2018, 12:44:45 pm
This one is just to see if I can link to my monochrome portfolio.
http://www.rosser.org.uk/content/DSC_1777-Edit-Edit_large.html
Having another try at attaching single picture
(http://www.rosser.org.uk/content/images/large/_DSC5748-Edit.jpg)
Got it, the last try was from my kindle Fire and I just seemed to be able to install a link to whole site.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: BJL on November 12, 2018, 01:29:35 pm
One thing that confused me for a while is that
- the “add image” button above the composing box is only for “linking out” to an image already on a website
- to upload an image “inline”, one uses the item “Atachments and other options” below the composing box.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 12, 2018, 02:11:37 pm
From the vault:

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 12, 2018, 03:44:55 pm
Another oldie.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: BobDavid on November 12, 2018, 07:04:16 pm
Another oldie.

Nice.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 12, 2018, 09:48:49 pm
Another oldie.
Very nice Eric. I know a place just like that, How uncanny. If only I can find it. In the meantime, here is my bw image:

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-KZfmKn5/0/20ef79ff/M/Feb%2025-13%20Glen%20Haffey%20039%20copybw-1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 12, 2018, 09:52:32 pm
Very nice Eric. I know a place just like that, How uncanny. If only I can find it. In the meantime, here is my bw image:

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-KZfmKn5/0/20ef79ff/M/Feb%2025-13%20Glen%20Haffey%20039%20copybw-1000-M.jpg)
Thanks, John.
And yours is just the spot for a picnic on a hot summer day!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 13, 2018, 10:46:45 am
Thanks, John.
And yours is just the spot for a picnic on a hot summer day!
But Eric, let's move to the dark side. I deliberately processed this image so that it looks almost underexposed, letting the dark background go almost black. Do you dare go into these woods?

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-jTqXf44/0/383b569e/L/Oct%207-%202013%20Glen%20Haffey%20752%20bwcopy-1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 13, 2018, 05:10:10 pm
Sneeze:

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on November 13, 2018, 08:00:44 pm
Another oldie.

Somehow I thought of this
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/arts/2006/02/15/moon372.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=c235d4a03b5fff4a606b0847ac319bd8)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/15/usa.arts
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 15, 2018, 08:10:37 am
Definitely black and white in there:



Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on November 15, 2018, 04:02:16 pm
Great new thread!   The last 8 weeks or so have been pretty busy, and I've only had time to duck into LuLa at odd, infrequent times (By the way Rob, thanks for the introduction to your thoughts on Glasgow and thanks to Slobodan for the recent photos from Eastern Europe - I'll get back to those threads today or tomorrow - meanwhile, sorry for the tangent) but I have a few weeks in my office now and I look forward to catching up on everyone's latest work.

Meanwhile, my last trip of the year took me to NYC, but instead of doing more work amongst the skyscrapers of Manhattan, I thought it would be fun to visit somewhere new, so I headed out to the Coney Island boardwalk in 30-degree winter weather.  Here's the first image:


Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 17, 2018, 08:23:22 am
How many shots did it take to get the seagull in just the right location?
Or is it a trained model of yours.  ;)
Nice shot.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: churly on November 17, 2018, 02:04:17 pm
Perhaps a bit of a drift into left field.
Chuck
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 17, 2018, 06:25:46 pm
As long as we're already out in left field...
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 17, 2018, 06:35:15 pm
As long as we're already out in left field...
OOh...somewhat disturbing John. Leaves the impression of human bones for me. Well crafted.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 17, 2018, 07:27:31 pm
OOh...somewhat disturbing John. Leaves the impression of human bones for me. Well crafted.

Thanks. Interpretation/feeling may be cultural, however. I thought of it as a 'darker' image (hence the title "Underworld"). But a young man from the Haida Gwaii (an acquaintance of my daughter) thought of it as peaceful.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Two23 on November 17, 2018, 09:57:44 pm
But Eric, let's move to the dark side. I deliberately processed this image so that it looks almost underexposed, letting the dark background go almost black. Do you dare go into these woods?


I'm a night photographer, so dark doesn't bother me.  I like the image--it has a sense of mystery.


Kent in SD
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Two23 on November 17, 2018, 11:15:59 pm
Officers of the U.S. 7th Cavalry.  Taken on 4x5 glass plate with c.1858 Derogy Petzval.  Ft. Sisseton, South Dakota.


Kent in SD
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on November 18, 2018, 01:53:21 pm
How many shots did it take to get the seagull in just the right location?
Or is it a trained model of yours.  ;)
Nice shot.

Hi Eric - thanks :)   I have about 10 wide boardwalk images in all, not this exact composition but close.  I saw this when I was looking for compositions through the viewfinder and the birds were flying in and out of the frame pretty much constantly.  It was kind of a mess, but they all cleared for a second and I saw this composition pop up suddenly when one came back so I just clicked the shutter by reflex.  Lucky happenstance :)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on November 18, 2018, 02:00:15 pm
Officers of the U.S. 7th Cavalry.  Taken on 4x5 glass plate with c.1858 Derogy Petzval.  Ft. Sisseton, South Dakota.


Kent in SD

That's pretty cool!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 19, 2018, 02:18:51 am
That's pretty cool!

+1
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 19, 2018, 08:38:22 am
+1
Same here, very nice work, Kent.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 19, 2018, 01:10:57 pm
Just hanging around.

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-pJKcC5W/0/0304e019/M/Oct%2027-09%20Kortright%20182%20bwcrop1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 20, 2018, 11:10:16 am
The lonely swan dreams. A composite of three images.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-pDmhW8q/0/dfb10a7d/L/April%205-09%20025%20bwmontage3-1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 20, 2018, 11:55:17 am
Mercury, messenger of the gods, his wings clipped, abused and discarded. The other gods twitter.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 20, 2018, 12:35:58 pm
Mercury, messenger of the gods, his wings clipped, abused and discarded. The other gods twitter.

This is perhaps a very good example of what had been remarked about Sabine Weiss' way of making the whites come out of the blacks, rather than the opposite direction of emphasis.

You sure do have an eye for moody imagery.

Rob
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on November 20, 2018, 03:27:42 pm
This is perhaps a very good example of what had been remarked about Sabine Weiss' way of making the whites come out of the blacks, rather than the opposite direction of emphasis.

You sure do have an eye for moody imagery.

Rob

Agreed!   

Here's another dark one :)

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 20, 2018, 04:15:46 pm
Agreed!   

Here's another dark one :)

James, to which body model does that dash belong? I think I remember touches from my Humber of '74.

My wife and I fell in love with the Sunbeam Alpine which, in the States, was also known as the Tiger, but came with a huge American V8 block. The car was Rootes/Chrysler, but for some reason I think the V8 was from Ford, which sounded odd. Playboy gave a pink one to the Playmate of the Year. Anyway, she - my wife, not the Centrefold - took her father down to the dealership trying her magic on him, but to my vast disappointment he didn't bite! It would have been a far more pretty ride than our Hillman Imp.

Then, decades later, the owners of that dealership had become friends of ours out here in Spain, and the wife told us that she'd decided to keep the thing for herself, but that in no time at all she had to be rescued: the garage had forgotten to fill it with oil. I don't know if heads rolled or whether the car was killed.

:-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on November 20, 2018, 04:52:20 pm
James, to which body model does that dash belong? I think I remember touches from my Humber of '74.

My wife and I fell in love with the Sunbeam Alpine which, in the States, was also known as the Tiger, but came with a huge American V8 block. The car was Rootes/Chrysler, but for some reason I think the V8 was from Ford, which sounded odd. Playboy gave a pink one to the Playmate of the Year. Anyway, she - my wife, not the Centrefold - took her father down to the dealership trying her magic on him, but to my vast disappointment he didn't bite! It would have been a far more pretty ride than our Hillman Imp.

Then, decades later, the owners of that dealership had become friends of ours out here in Spain, and the wife told us that she'd decided to keep the thing for herself, but that in no time at all she had to be rescued: the garage had forgotten to fill it with oil. I don't know if heads rolled or whether the car was killed.

:-)

It is indeed a Tiger, with a giant American V8 :)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 20, 2018, 09:53:00 pm
Thank-you Rob & James. Not trying to make this another "chain" thread, but the mention of V8 reminded me of this (a vintage fire truck, actually).
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 21, 2018, 04:54:41 am
Thank-you Rob & James. Not trying to make this another "chain" thread, but the mention of V8 reminded me of this (a vintage fire truck, actually).

Sure outguns the V8!

;-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 21, 2018, 12:42:33 pm
As remarked some time ago, I find myself increasingly unable to think of photography in terms of colour, regardless of subject - almost! I also think that the longer the lens used, the more likely I feel that colour would be the way that my mind would look at the thing. I guess it's got a lot to do with focussing down onto a more tightly framed subject where colour may be less of a distraction and, conversely, perhaps the point of the photograph. Anyway:

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 21, 2018, 01:58:41 pm
As remarked some time ago, I find myself increasingly unable to think of photography in terms of colour, regardless of subject - almost! I also think that the longer the lens used, the more likely I feel that colour would be the way that my mind would look at the thing. I guess it's got a lot to do with focussing down onto a more tightly framed subject where colour may be less of a distraction and, conversely, perhaps the point of the photograph. Anyway:

I often find myself shooting a portrait focal length, though I hadn't really thought about the correlation between perspective and colour/monochrome. The following picture was taken at true telephoto length, however. The river was too deep to ford without filling my boots! Apologies if I've posted it before – I should keep better track of that.

Somewhere on the food chain.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on November 21, 2018, 02:20:09 pm
I often find myself shooting a portrait focal length, though I hadn't really thought about the correlation between perspective and colour/monochrome. The following picture was taken at true telephoto length, however. The river was too deep to ford without filling my boots! Apologies if I've posted it before – I should keep better track of that.

Somewhere on the food chain.

I wouldn't worry, as far as I'm concerned you can post that image as many times as you like.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 21, 2018, 02:25:13 pm
Lovely treatment! That fish looks lethal even in death.

Focal length can also become habit: throughout my fashion years, despite having lenses from 24mm to 500mm, I would guess that my two most-used lenses for Nikon were the 35mm and 135mm, the former for full-length and even half-length model shots, the resulting distortion actually being a feature, which currently makes me scratch my head a little, the longer lens reserved mostly for headshots. That work was predominantly in black/white. My 50mm was practically virgin right until I disposed of all my 135 format equipment one mad day.

When I switched to calendars, I began to find myself slightly more fond of long lenses. The calendars were mostly colour, so perhaps the genre does really impact the choices made, for me, at any rate.

Today, the majority of the time I have the 50mm on my old cut-frame D200 (equiv. 75mm on FF) which seems to combine pretty well with my present way of thinking... that said, I wonder which the chicken and which the egg!

Rob

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on November 21, 2018, 03:01:21 pm
Since so far (with 1 exception) only achromatics have been posted, I'll add a study in (mostly monochromatic) blues. Hope it sparks some more monochrome color posts.

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on November 21, 2018, 03:25:30 pm
I can get down with that, Bart :)   Here's a recent commercial image from earlier this fall.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Bart_van_der_Wolf on November 21, 2018, 03:40:58 pm
I can get down with that, Bart :)   Here's a recent commercial image from earlier this fall.

Subtle.

Cheers,
Bart
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on November 21, 2018, 03:48:46 pm
Monday Morning Blues:
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 21, 2018, 04:45:07 pm
Feels like cheating, somehow, but okay:

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 21, 2018, 05:35:42 pm
Feels like cheating, somehow, but okay:

Thumbs up for your cheat.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: BobDavid on November 21, 2018, 08:27:35 pm
Very nice Eric. I know a place just like that, How uncanny. If only I can find it. In the meantime, here is my bw image:

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-KZfmKn5/0/20ef79ff/M/Feb%2025-13%20Glen%20Haffey%20039%20copybw-1000-M.jpg)

+1
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 22, 2018, 09:32:07 am
+1
Thank you Bob!

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 22, 2018, 09:35:44 am
Yes Bart, if one can see and capture chromatic monotones, the rewards can be significant as your image shows. Here you go, whites with a hint of blue and green.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Belfountain-and-Forks-of-the/i-KcSNqP2/0/931d0b91/M/Jan%2020-%202018%20Bellfountain_0008%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 22, 2018, 10:38:03 am
Yes Bart, if one can see and capture chromatic monotones, the rewards can be significant as your image shows. Here you go, whites with a hint of blue and green.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Belfountain-and-Forks-of-the/i-KcSNqP2/0/931d0b91/M/Jan%2020-%202018%20Bellfountain_0008%20copy1000-M.jpg)

Would that be a tritone, then - as distinct from the Roman fountain?

;-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 23, 2018, 08:52:56 am
And reverting to a black and white issue:

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 23, 2018, 09:17:24 am
And reverting to a black and white issue:
You title it 'fence', but clearly it is about something mysterious lurking behind a fence, as seen through a fence. Fess up!

JR

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: 32BT on November 23, 2018, 09:30:44 am
You title it 'fence', but clearly it is about something mysterious lurking behind a fence, as seen through a fence. Fess up!

JR

He more or less already did previously. It's his ongoing feud with the hereafter.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 23, 2018, 09:42:57 am
He more or less already did previously. It's his ongoing feud with the hereafter.
OK, I will him alone... intermittently. Wait, isn't that a movie, 'the sweet hereafter'? See with a little prodding these things come to the fore.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 23, 2018, 09:43:23 am
He more or less already did previously. It's his ongoing feud with the hereafter.

I think I may have fixed a deal with that dimension. Put another way, there's one mighty lot of stuff riding on my side of the bargain!

That apart, John's right: the almost experienced is more interesting to me than the route oft travelled. Maybe that's one way that photography has a thing painters seldom seem to exploit - it may be painters don't spend that much time with lenses and, if they do, usually subscribe to the f16 school of thought.

;-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 23, 2018, 09:48:10 am
Ok, a little bit closer to monotone, albeit, quite abstract.

Edit: and a second with spider webs intact.)

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guelph/i-W37Rnh5/0/7842e419/M/Dec%202-%202013%20Guelph%20outing%20084%20copy1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guelph/i-2ctJrQ3/0/4101cc0e/M/Dec%202-%202013%20Guelph%20outing%20082%20copysmug-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on November 23, 2018, 01:18:35 pm
Linking to the arched form in JMR's latest...  ;)
Strictly B&W.  This was window frost this morning, at -12 C (or +11 F).
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on November 23, 2018, 01:31:10 pm
Almost monochromatic?

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Metamorphosis.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 23, 2018, 02:16:11 pm
Light, shadow, simple forms.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 24, 2018, 12:08:36 pm
Pink is in as long as you like flowers.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Niagara-Region/i-szVRM9j/0/9ff56934/M/July%202-11%20RBG%20205%20smugcopy-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 24, 2018, 03:24:13 pm
I like flowers, but I'm not partial to pink, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 24, 2018, 07:36:50 pm
I like flowers, but I'm not partial to pink, I'm afraid.
Stunning bw tonality, John. And beautifully lit.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 24, 2018, 10:33:59 pm
Stunning bw tonality, John. And beautifully lit.

JR

Thank-you. The light was coming from a single narrow horizontal window above, behind, and just to one side of the subject. I used a white reflector to fill. That was my old house where I had developed a better mental catalog of the window light (seasonal, time-of-day, weather-wise) than my current house.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: BJL on November 25, 2018, 11:31:14 am
Thanks for some wonderful photos that picked up my hint about the broad scope of "monochrome". Here is one in with its natural color, no desaturation.

P. S. I added a "remix", more how I would have printed it in the darkroom. Any opinions?
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 25, 2018, 02:23:16 pm
Another colour image.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 26, 2018, 10:15:09 am
Experimenting with infrared look. To me it works on so few images. Here is one that looks rather dramatic.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Landscape-Impressions/i-NLPFXPk/0/dafd7420/M/Oct%2013-09%20Glen%20Haffy%20004%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: RSL on November 26, 2018, 10:35:12 am
Yes! The composition has something to do with it too, John.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: LesPalenik on November 27, 2018, 06:54:32 am
Paddling On Glitter
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 27, 2018, 08:09:05 am
Paddling On Glitter

My mind goes nuts just thinking what that light and contrast would have offered a 500mm Cat lens!

Rob
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on November 27, 2018, 08:54:55 am
Yes! The composition has something to do with it too, John.
Thank you Russ. I am coming to same conclusion.

JR

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Ivophoto on November 27, 2018, 12:48:16 pm
Imprisonment

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181127/89d7ead0b6d45488bc9d6db0d937fa05.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: LesPalenik on November 28, 2018, 02:37:58 am
My mind goes nuts just thinking what that light and contrast would have offered a 500mm Cat lens!

Rob

Thank you, Rob
Not having the Cat 500mm lens, I resorted to a somewhat abstract rendition, trying to get the little bokeh circles this way.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 28, 2018, 05:53:13 am
Imprisonment

I like the chosen rendering considering the subject matter and title. Is the image metaphorical, illustrative, documentary or ?? Composition is very deliberate. Is the posing very deliberate too, or something that the subject did which you then captured?
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Ivophoto on November 28, 2018, 06:13:58 am
I like the chosen rendering considering the subject matter and title. Is the image metaphorical, illustrative, documentary or ?? Composition is very deliberate. Is the posing very deliberate too, or something that the subject did which you then captured?


Thanks for asking.

I had the chance to visit a new penitentiary.  I knew we had the opportunity to make some pictures and in that period of my life I was in a state of mind I wanted to metaphorically illustrate. A kind civil servant of the facility understood quit well how to pose.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on November 30, 2018, 11:35:29 am
Arches.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on November 30, 2018, 12:59:43 pm
Light, light, light and beautiful processing do a masterwork make!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: rabanito on December 01, 2018, 04:58:06 am
Some withering roses from my backyard
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 01, 2018, 08:44:08 am
Nice and moody.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 01, 2018, 11:39:47 am
A different kind of mood. Sit awhile and take in the soft wintery feeling.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Winter-in-High-Park-2013/i-2TNsHPm/0/e7f8ecd0/L/IMGP0701%20bw3%20copy1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2018, 01:22:35 pm
A different kind of mood. Sit awhile and take in the soft wintery feeling.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Winter-in-High-Park-2013/i-2TNsHPm/0/e7f8ecd0/L/IMGP0701%20bw3%20copy1000-L.jpg)


Sit? Are you crazy? They could fall right off or, alternatively, retract so far as never to be seen again!

:-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 01, 2018, 01:36:10 pm
A different kind of mood. Sit awhile and take in the soft wintery feeling.

JR

As winter wears on, though, I find myself just waiting for spring...
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 01, 2018, 01:37:03 pm
And, indoors, finding a place in the sun.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 01, 2018, 01:52:24 pm
Both very nice John B. But the light and chair are so inviting, literally and figuratively.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on December 01, 2018, 03:14:53 pm
Cretan farmhouse.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Cretan_Skull.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on December 01, 2018, 05:46:49 pm
Cretan farmhouse.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Cretan_Skull.jpg)


Remains of Medusa? Love the bad hair day!

:-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on December 01, 2018, 06:13:53 pm

Remains of Medusa? Love the bad hair day!

:-)

Skulls are often attached to chain link fences at the edge of properties. The message being Get off my land!

;-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on December 01, 2018, 07:07:12 pm
Imprisonment

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181127/89d7ead0b6d45488bc9d6db0d937fa05.jpg)

Very nice
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Post by: Ivophoto on December 02, 2018, 03:53:07 am
Very nice
Thanks Armand
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on December 02, 2018, 08:07:12 am
Another from the Cretan farmhouse.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Cretan_Skull2.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 02, 2018, 08:59:17 am
Another from the Cretan farmhouse.

Two skulls at one farmhouse (first looks like a ram, second a Cretan goat/ibex/kri-kri ?). A one-off, or were these displays common (as in, having significance to the Cretans)?
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on December 02, 2018, 09:56:36 am
Two skulls at one farmhouse (first looks like a ram, second a Cretan goat/ibex/kri-kri ?). A one-off, or were these displays common (as in, having significance to the Cretans)?

My wife and I were staying in a very old farmhouse in North West Crete. The owner had a number of skulls he'd picked up on forays into the mountains. It's not unusual to see skulls adorning properties in Crete - if it moves the Cretans will shoot and eat it. We, being collectors of the weird and wonderful, rather naively commented that we found his skulls to be objects of great beauty and thought no more of it.

A couple of days later the owner arrived at our door with a very smelly plastic carrier bag in hand. He told us he'd been visiting the mountain village where he was raised and had been talking to the local Pappa (Priest) who had told him of the sacrificial slaughtering of a ram for the local holy day celebrations. The plastic bag contained the skull of the ram, he had boiled and removed most of the flesh - the cheeks of course saved as a delicacy. My wife then spent the next two days trying to remove as much of the remaining flesh as possible using vast quantities of bleach in an attempt to reduce the smell and flies. Towards the end of our stay we popped the skull together with a fly or two into a cardboard box and posted it off to our home address thinking it'll never get through UK customs and it would be the last we'd see of it. Lo and behold on our arrival back at home there was the box on our doorstep still attracting flies! It took many sessions with bleach and many months in quarantine in our greenhouse before ending up in pride of place on the shelves of our living room amongst similarly weird and wonderful ephemera.

And the moral of this story, be careful what you wish for!

Images shot in 2012 with Hasselblad H Series. 

     
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 02, 2018, 01:15:51 pm
What a great story. My wife recalls when her high-school science teacher decided he was going to "create" a complete sheep skeleton for his science students. How he got away with it, she's not sure because he boiled those bones over the course of months, and the whole wing of the school reaked with the smell. Of course, that was in the late 1960's – and her mother was still making blood sausage and head cheese at home. Everything from an animal got used.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: degrub on December 02, 2018, 01:51:08 pm
maggots actually do a reasonable job, albeit slowly.
Hydrogen peroxide, sodium bicarbonate once you have removed most of the flesh as possible.
Bleach or boiling won't do  too much.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 02, 2018, 02:36:06 pm
maggots actually do a reasonable job, albeit slowly.
Hydrogen peroxide, sodium bicarbonate once you have removed most of the flesh as possible.
Bleach or boiling won't do  too much.

Good to know (I think).  :o
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on December 02, 2018, 02:44:30 pm
Now, what was it they used in Breaking Bad?

;-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: BJL on December 02, 2018, 03:36:56 pm
Now, what was it they used in Breaking Bad?

;-)
I don't know, but here is the traditional procedure for skeletonization: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/history-gruesome-skeleton-anatomists
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on December 02, 2018, 05:04:09 pm
Gosh, I do hope the old bill aren't monitoring this thread.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 02, 2018, 08:40:17 pm
Gosh, I do hope the old bill aren't monitoring this thread.
Well, at least it's not political.
Or is it???
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 02, 2018, 09:27:27 pm
Good to know (I think).  :o
I am going to borrow Ivo's emoticon for my thoughts on this subject

But I do love the skeletal images.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: KLaban on December 03, 2018, 03:47:42 am
Skulls are often attached to chain link fences at the edge of properties. The message being Keep off my land!

BTW, our skull is affectionately known as Ramesses.

;-)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 03, 2018, 07:51:53 am
An urban skeleton.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 03, 2018, 09:33:44 am
Lights & Lines:

(https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/img/s/v-3/p2519964348-2.jpg) (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/p947292936/e96339abc)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 03, 2018, 11:43:12 am
How about some shadows and lines:

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-chPzvFN/0/fb9366ea/M/Jan%207-13%20East%20mall%20arch%20013-2%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Ivophoto on December 03, 2018, 12:31:48 pm
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181203/7af3f2ab7aaea1edfd70c17a7d8b0083.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on December 03, 2018, 01:12:57 pm
I love a good monochrome image! Here's one of mine from last summer.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/924/43321327371_dcb95aa7e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/291a8kr)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 03, 2018, 02:25:45 pm
I love a good river/stream.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 03, 2018, 02:54:04 pm
(https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/img/s/v-2/p1595968469-2.jpg) (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/p947292936/e5f208bd5)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 03, 2018, 09:28:43 pm
It's good to see some of your B&W work, Slobodan.
You show so much excellent color work that it is a real pleasure to see such excellent B&W work as well.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 03, 2018, 10:20:17 pm
It's good to see some of your B&W work, Slobodan.
You show so much excellent color work that it is a real pleasure to see such excellent B&W work as well.

Thanks, Eric, will try to post some more :)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 04, 2018, 12:22:21 pm
(https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/img/s/v-2/p2038071547-2.jpg) (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/p947292936/e797a80fb)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on December 04, 2018, 12:54:31 pm
,
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on December 04, 2018, 04:07:48 pm
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4593/39370498342_e912e0c849_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22Z36vy)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Ivophoto on December 04, 2018, 04:31:42 pm
Your once, twice
Three times a lady
And I love you!

(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181204/6e7093477fb9a32439ff091c0cf731e3.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on December 04, 2018, 06:22:38 pm
I missed all the lines and architecture, but if I hadn't I would have contributed this ;)

PS - If you missed 'em since i flipped the page, go back and look at Ivo's & Slobodan's portraits, Matt's ice and Armand's floral posted just a little bit earlier today - good stuff!  (I always feel a little bad for flipping a page not too long after the last post on the previous one).
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on December 04, 2018, 10:14:56 pm
It's starting to get cold.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4907/45271218665_ac90c7eae1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bYsQ5R)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Ivophoto on December 04, 2018, 10:56:04 pm
I missed all the lines and architecture, but if I hadn't I would have contributed this ;)

PS - If you missed 'em since i flipped the page, go back and look at Ivo's & Slobodan's portraits, Matt's ice and Armand's floral posted just a little bit earlier today - good stuff!  (I always feel a little bad for flipping a page not too long after the last post on the previous one).

Your images is a good reason to flip the page!

Cheers.

Ivo.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 05, 2018, 09:54:27 am
Chicago. And a puff of smoke.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: rabanito on December 05, 2018, 01:37:44 pm
Gates
Catamarca - Argentina
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: James Clark on December 05, 2018, 02:02:14 pm
Your images is a good reason to flip the page!

Cheers.

Ivo.

Appreciate that :)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 06, 2018, 11:14:20 pm
A more gradual change.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/OTTAWA/i-HzhBNT6/0/ea64f04e/M/May%2013-%202016%20Ottawa%20jpegs%20331%20bwcopy2-1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 08, 2018, 06:58:07 pm
Communications Cannon.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 08, 2018, 11:34:55 pm
Communications Cannon.
Nah. It's the tin man blowing his stack. He can't stand the modern city. Wonderful bw tonality.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 10, 2018, 10:22:34 am
Wonderful bw tonality.

Thank-you

Studies, in Black and White. A simple photograph that could be processed in so many different ways – contrast, shadow and highlight detail, colour toning perhaps, and so on. I often find that it takes me even longer to be satisfied with a monochrome rendering than a colour one. Someone else might make very different choices, of course, and produce a very different image. In fact, I've done that myself sometimes, when revisiting an image.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 10, 2018, 10:34:35 am
In the alley beside the Chinese grocer. Revisited rendering.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 10, 2018, 12:26:27 pm
Thank-you

Studies, in Black and White. A simple photograph that could be processed in so many different ways – contrast, shadow and highlight detail, colour toning perhaps, and so on. I often find that it takes me even longer to be satisfied with a monochrome rendering than a colour one. Someone else might make very different choices, of course, and produce a very different image. In fact, I've done that myself sometimes, when revisiting an image.
This one has more dramatic lighting, yet calming; I think because of the environment and what the subjects are projecting to the viewer. Excellent.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 10, 2018, 12:30:06 pm
In the alley beside the Chinese grocer. Revisited rendering.
Are you sure you don't see in bw? What would this image be without the excellent tonality. Good, maybe. But with this rendering, it just comes to life.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on December 10, 2018, 04:30:17 pm
Frosty cottonwoods this morning. I find winter landscapes often lend themselves well to monochrome renderings.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4887/46264552041_394cfac80a_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dueVun)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 10, 2018, 04:36:34 pm
Frosty cottonwoods this morning. I find winter landscapes often lend themselves well to monochrome renderings.

Other than the sun, which drags my eye and won't let go, it's a fine image.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 10, 2018, 05:26:45 pm
Frosty cottonwoods this morning. I find winter landscapes often lend themselves well to monochrome renderings.

I like this one even better than the one above on this page. The backlighting really makes it!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 10, 2018, 05:59:13 pm
Other than the sun, which drags my eye and won't let go, it's a fine image.

Jeremy
It does grab your eye, but it is part of the scene and you instantly recognize why it is there. It's the sun in sun filled image. That's the way I look at it.

JR

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 10, 2018, 11:14:26 pm
Every step you take, ...I will be watching you... soft shadows and all.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/AGO/i-ZXv8FXd/0/81fde5e7/L/Oct%201-11%20AGO%20169%20topazcopy1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 13, 2018, 03:23:13 am
Ice in the river.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 13, 2018, 03:48:09 am
Ice in the river.

Very good. The first is the better.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on December 13, 2018, 03:39:55 pm
More frosty trees and without the sun in the frame this time. Obscured by the freezing fog that deposits this lovely coating.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4830/46245382102_5d54c7b560_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dsxEWb)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: sdwilsonsct on December 13, 2018, 05:53:58 pm
It's starting to get cold.

Love it. Great sky!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Two23 on December 13, 2018, 06:11:44 pm
The Autocar Company was one of the first in the U.S. to make vehicles.  It's the oldest in the Western hemisphere.  The company is little known as it only makes heavy duty trucks for specialty applications.  Black and white conversion was done in camera by Ilford FP4, 135mm Rodenstock lens.


Kent in SD

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 14, 2018, 09:33:26 pm
Monument to multiculturalism. The man is holding two meridians and bringing them together; the doves represent peace and are holding the other meridians aloft. Info from the designer and builder, Francesco Perilli. I thought it would look good as silhouette, which for me was great as the light on surrounding buildings can be very harsh. The building in the background is the old Royal York Hotel.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Front-St-Walk-Toronto/i-QQxNrGJ/0/488251d9/L/Mar%2014-11%20Downtown%20157%20bwcopy1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 15, 2018, 05:18:09 am
Monument to multiculturalism. The man is holding two meridians and bringing them together; the doves represent peace and are holding the other meridians aloft. Info from the designer and builder, Francesco Perilli. I thought it would look good as silhouette, which for me was great as the light on surrounding buildings can be very harsh. The building in the background is the old Royal York Hotel.

JR

A much better image than I ever took of of that sculpture!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 15, 2018, 09:13:32 am
A much better image than I ever took of of that sculpture!
Thanks John B. Interesting that I took little notice of these sculptures until I did a tour with the camera club. After the morning break I went out again and studied the sculpture. Quite good. But the light from the towers was very harsh. I waited for some clouds and was able to take a whole series. Right now there is so much construction, it's like a human zoo. Sunday mornings is best, few people out and about and no construction.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Front-St-Walk-Toronto/i-sn2VpDN/0/f54dece2/M/Mar%2014-11%20Downtown%20130%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)

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Post by: stamper on December 15, 2018, 10:18:31 am
A Scottish river.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/99408200@N05/44384659930/in/dateposted/
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 15, 2018, 09:14:12 pm
A Scottish river.

A very nice image. I'm no expert on linking Flickr, but you should be able to make the image appear here, no? BTW, the link that you provided takes one to Flickr's resized version which shows an unfortunate, weird pixelation on my computer. When the image is viewed at original size, that problem disappears.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 16, 2018, 04:11:53 am
One more of the multicultural sculpture:

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Front-St-Walk-Toronto/i-4JDhkKC/0/689396d6/L/Mar%2014-11%20Downtown%20156%20bwcrop-1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 16, 2018, 04:14:54 am
One more of the multicultural sculpture:

This one works least well for me because of the grey sky and lack of contrast. I find the second you posted is much the best.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 16, 2018, 04:32:42 am
This one works least well for me because of the grey sky and lack of contrast. I find the second you posted is much the best.

Jeremy
Thanks for the comments Jeremy. I am relatively new to bw and not as good as many on this site, like John B. But I try to make it as realistic as possible and not just high contrast. But I agree, the latter image does look overly grey. Did you mean a lighter sky? Something like this?

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Front-St-Walk-Toronto/i-HFB7JBk/0/412269a4/L/Mar%2014-11%20Downtown%20156%20bwcrop-lightersky2-1000-L.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on December 16, 2018, 02:06:48 pm
I think that's a bit better, yes. But the framing in #2 seems to me to give a sense of movement: the figure appears to be looking up at the departing birds. #3 is much more static, with the birds at best circling the figure.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 16, 2018, 07:48:43 pm
I like the first version best, the one silhouetted against the building.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 16, 2018, 08:24:25 pm
Thank you for your input and comments Eric and Jeremy.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 18, 2018, 02:47:51 pm
I guess it doesn't get any more monochrome than this IRL (this is a color shot). Havana harbor in a heavy downpour:

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on December 18, 2018, 02:49:52 pm
,
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: JNB_Rare on December 19, 2018, 08:32:45 am
Another monochromatic colour shot.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on December 19, 2018, 03:52:28 pm
Just a leaf:

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4875/46334534572_8be4bf544f_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2dAqARJ)
Leaf (https://flic.kr/p/2dAqARJ) by Slobodan Blagojevic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/slobodan_blagojevic/), on Flickr
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on December 19, 2018, 07:22:49 pm
Just a leaf:

The bw rendering is really fine. It pops right out at you.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on December 19, 2018, 08:37:49 pm
Nice one.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on January 09, 2019, 01:36:14 pm
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Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on January 19, 2019, 01:55:34 pm
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Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on January 19, 2019, 02:05:18 pm
A nice one, Armand.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on January 19, 2019, 09:11:20 pm
Very nice Armand.

JR
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on January 20, 2019, 12:09:53 am
Thank you!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on January 23, 2019, 04:22:20 pm
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Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on January 23, 2019, 05:10:36 pm
Good, Armand. I love black-and-white flower shots.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on January 24, 2019, 02:21:12 pm
Good, Armand. I love black-and-white flower shots.

Jeremy

Thank you, this one was quite amenable to a b&w treatment.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on January 30, 2019, 09:55:57 am
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Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on January 31, 2019, 03:16:36 pm
Took this a couple of weeks ago but just did the b&w conversion.
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7909/31999951587_b6d417b36e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/QKJ7Ke)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on January 31, 2019, 05:42:26 pm
Nicely done, Matt.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: HSakols on January 31, 2019, 08:19:14 pm
Got this one just east of Yosemite during a backbacking trip. 

Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on February 01, 2019, 03:22:56 am
Took this a couple of weeks ago but just did the b&w conversion.

Very nice, Matt. I think if you darkened the sky just a little more (just a little, though: it would be easy to over do it), you'd get better separation of the white trees.

Jeremy
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on March 13, 2019, 07:46:30 pm
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Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on March 17, 2019, 01:04:45 pm
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Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: LesPalenik on March 17, 2019, 05:33:32 pm
Very nice, Matt. I think if you darkened the sky just a little more (just a little, though: it would be easy to over do it), you'd get better separation of the white trees.

Jeremy

That's true, but it wouldn't be easy to darken the sky properly, with all the air around and between the branches.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: BJL on March 17, 2019, 07:25:42 pm
That's true, but it wouldn't be easy to darken the sky properly, with all the air around and between the branches.
Would darkening the blue channel help? Would a polarizing filter help is this sort of situation? I am just asking out of interest in technique, not criticizing the image, which I like a lot.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: LesPalenik on March 17, 2019, 08:41:15 pm
You are right, both techniques should help - if the sky is blue enough or if you shot the scene at such an angle that the polarizer makes the sky darker.
Even so, all the branches and the space between them would create a challenge.     
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: 32BT on March 18, 2019, 12:23:43 am
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The bamboo is really nice Armand, although the focus seems off or something else is wrong. It could use a perfect sharp capture so the joints stand out as a separate pattern in the image.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on March 18, 2019, 11:58:07 am
That's true, but it wouldn't be easy to darken the sky properly, with all the air around and between the branches.

I meant to respond to this a while back but I did darken the blue channel and it does look better. I'll probably print this at some point.
Thanks for the suggestion!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on March 18, 2019, 10:08:54 pm
The bamboo is really nice Armand, although the focus seems off or something else is wrong. It could use a perfect sharp capture so the joints stand out as a separate pattern in the image.

Thank you. I'm not sure what looks off to you but focus is decent, see a 100% crop.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on April 15, 2019, 02:52:26 pm
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Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on April 15, 2019, 03:34:06 pm
A different look:

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Autumn-Images-2012/i-2k6CfQH/0/7e4be547/M/May%20412%2010%20Kortright%20055%20IRbwcopy-1000-M.jpg)

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Autumn-Images-2012/i-zbbszxw/0/85e4456c/M/May%20412%2010%20Kortright%20006%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on April 16, 2019, 11:16:37 am
Rising water on the Gunnison
(https://live.staticflickr.com/7926/32602340897_6765274752_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/REXw6P)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: John R on April 17, 2019, 10:39:49 am
A lovely image Matt. From one of favourite spots.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-VsNt539/0/5a12468c/M/Apr%2013-10%20Forks%20002%20bw-ortoncrop-1000-M.jpg)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on April 17, 2019, 11:02:00 am
A lovely image Matt. From one of favourite spots.

JR

(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-VsNt539/0/5a12468c/M/Apr%2013-10%20Forks%20002%20bw-ortoncrop-1000-M.jpg)

Thanks! Yes, it's my go-to quick spot about 2 minutes drive (maybe 10 by bike) from the house. Easy to grab some shots there if suddenly the conditions look good but I didn't anticipate it and I'm still at home. :)

I like that cattails shot too. I love how they illuminate in the right light. They play off those dark shadows nicely.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on April 20, 2019, 03:01:10 pm
lilies
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on April 21, 2019, 01:11:28 am
Turbulence
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46740425435_49abb4ed1c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2edhU54)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: petermfiore on April 21, 2019, 07:54:09 am
Shadowed...

This is one from a few years ago but fits this thread.

Peter
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 21, 2019, 10:06:06 am
Nice, Peter!
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on April 21, 2019, 03:05:28 pm
wet monos
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on April 21, 2019, 03:33:42 pm
Nice ones.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Rob C on April 21, 2019, 03:48:31 pm
Shadowed...

This is one from a few years ago but fits this thread.

Peter


Just hearing the song Ruby (don't take your love to town) with a line about "shadow on the wall" which is some coincidence.

This is on Radio Caroline which is an Internet version of the old, eponymous pirate radio station that used to transmit from two boats (North and South) anchored out of UK jurisdiction which, however, didn't prevent them sending out the armed forces to shut them the eff up, which was a crime to the ears of all of us for whom Caroline was as close to a love affair as ever a cold, midnight darkroom was likely to offer whilst still allowing the making of hundreds of prints for next day delivery while the clients slept on sheets of silk - or something like that. I sometimes hated the guys who kept us eating, but mostly I got over it..

Very strong image, Peter.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: petermfiore on April 22, 2019, 11:09:49 am
Thank you Eric and Rob for your most welcomed nods...

Peter
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on May 01, 2019, 02:08:09 pm
building
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on May 05, 2019, 05:01:07 pm
Salmon River
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on May 05, 2019, 06:48:40 pm
Salmon River

Both very nice but is that sensor dirt on the second or odd clouds? Nicely seen and taken regardless. 
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on May 06, 2019, 05:16:47 pm
Both very nice but is that sensor dirt on the second or odd clouds? Nicely seen and taken regardless.

To be honest I'm not sure. I noticed it during processing and said I'll deal with it when I'm done and then I forgot. I'll give it another try when I have time.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on May 09, 2019, 12:33:30 pm
moonlit
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on May 09, 2019, 12:38:19 pm
Birdie:
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: MattBurt on May 09, 2019, 03:05:24 pm
Spring squall and irrigation ditch
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/47693299681_04378c28b7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2fEuCon)
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: Eric Myrvaagnes on May 09, 2019, 08:19:03 pm
Fine one.
Title: Re: Monochrome (is not always a black and white issue)
Post by: armand on May 16, 2019, 10:46:33 pm
patterns