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The Art of Photography => User Critiques => Topic started by: BJL on November 10, 2018, 02:54:33 pm
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Since none of the good photographers in this forum have made the move yet, here is an attempt to start a place for sharing and discussing monochrome images, no matter how they were produced. Just a quick scan of an old print, deliberately(?) setting a low bar.
Maybe a section for just sharing without the emphasis on "critique"?
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Nice picture; the first thing to strike me was the very Picasso eyes!
Rob
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Rob,
You are very kind. Here is another, less heavy on the sepia. If it were digital, I could probably clone out all hints of modernity.
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Here are a couple of contributions.
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This one is just to see if I can link to my monochrome portfolio.
http://www.rosser.org.uk/content/DSC_1777-Edit-Edit_large.html
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Monochrome portrait on 8x10”
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181110/60d885846e6ef685c9aaa76b2a2cc946.jpg)
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Here are a couple of contributions.
The blanket is familiar, Eric; but I love the textures in the second. Made for monochrome treatment.
Jeremy
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Monochrome portrait on 8x10”
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181110/60d885846e6ef685c9aaa76b2a2cc946.jpg)
Beautiful image
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Here are a couple of contributions.
Photo #1: yummy croissa…oh. ;D
-Dave-
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Thanks, Jeremy and Dave.
Both were from a 4x5" view camera, back in the 1960s.
The "knots" shot was actually the bench of my parent's picnic table, when the light was striking it just right.
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A couple of early digitals. I find monochrome rendering challenging enough, never mind getting a print that really sings.
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This one is just to see if I can link to my monochrome portfolio.
http://www.rosser.org.uk/content/DSC_1777-Edit-Edit_large.html
Having another try at attaching single picture
(http://www.rosser.org.uk/content/images/large/_DSC5748-Edit.jpg)
Got it, the last try was from my kindle Fire and I just seemed to be able to install a link to whole site.
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One thing that confused me for a while is that
- the “add image” button above the composing box is only for “linking out” to an image already on a website
- to upload an image “inline”, one uses the item “Atachments and other options” below the composing box.
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From the vault:
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Another oldie.
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Another oldie.
Nice.
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Another oldie.
Very nice Eric. I know a place just like that, How uncanny. If only I can find it. In the meantime, here is my bw image:
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-KZfmKn5/0/20ef79ff/M/Feb%2025-13%20Glen%20Haffey%20039%20copybw-1000-M.jpg)
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Very nice Eric. I know a place just like that, How uncanny. If only I can find it. In the meantime, here is my bw image:
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-KZfmKn5/0/20ef79ff/M/Feb%2025-13%20Glen%20Haffey%20039%20copybw-1000-M.jpg)
Thanks, John.
And yours is just the spot for a picnic on a hot summer day!
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Thanks, John.
And yours is just the spot for a picnic on a hot summer day!
But Eric, let's move to the dark side. I deliberately processed this image so that it looks almost underexposed, letting the dark background go almost black. Do you dare go into these woods?
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-jTqXf44/0/383b569e/L/Oct%207-%202013%20Glen%20Haffey%20752%20bwcopy-1000-L.jpg)
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Sneeze:
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Another oldie.
Somehow I thought of this
(https://i.guim.co.uk/img/static/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/arts/2006/02/15/moon372.jpg?width=620&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=c235d4a03b5fff4a606b0847ac319bd8)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/feb/15/usa.arts
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Definitely black and white in there:
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Great new thread! The last 8 weeks or so have been pretty busy, and I've only had time to duck into LuLa at odd, infrequent times (By the way Rob, thanks for the introduction to your thoughts on Glasgow and thanks to Slobodan for the recent photos from Eastern Europe - I'll get back to those threads today or tomorrow - meanwhile, sorry for the tangent) but I have a few weeks in my office now and I look forward to catching up on everyone's latest work.
Meanwhile, my last trip of the year took me to NYC, but instead of doing more work amongst the skyscrapers of Manhattan, I thought it would be fun to visit somewhere new, so I headed out to the Coney Island boardwalk in 30-degree winter weather. Here's the first image:
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How many shots did it take to get the seagull in just the right location?
Or is it a trained model of yours. ;)
Nice shot.
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Perhaps a bit of a drift into left field.
Chuck
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As long as we're already out in left field...
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As long as we're already out in left field...
OOh...somewhat disturbing John. Leaves the impression of human bones for me. Well crafted.
JR
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OOh...somewhat disturbing John. Leaves the impression of human bones for me. Well crafted.
Thanks. Interpretation/feeling may be cultural, however. I thought of it as a 'darker' image (hence the title "Underworld"). But a young man from the Haida Gwaii (an acquaintance of my daughter) thought of it as peaceful.
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But Eric, let's move to the dark side. I deliberately processed this image so that it looks almost underexposed, letting the dark background go almost black. Do you dare go into these woods?
I'm a night photographer, so dark doesn't bother me. I like the image--it has a sense of mystery.
Kent in SD
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Officers of the U.S. 7th Cavalry. Taken on 4x5 glass plate with c.1858 Derogy Petzval. Ft. Sisseton, South Dakota.
Kent in SD
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How many shots did it take to get the seagull in just the right location?
Or is it a trained model of yours. ;)
Nice shot.
Hi Eric - thanks :) I have about 10 wide boardwalk images in all, not this exact composition but close. I saw this when I was looking for compositions through the viewfinder and the birds were flying in and out of the frame pretty much constantly. It was kind of a mess, but they all cleared for a second and I saw this composition pop up suddenly when one came back so I just clicked the shutter by reflex. Lucky happenstance :)
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Officers of the U.S. 7th Cavalry. Taken on 4x5 glass plate with c.1858 Derogy Petzval. Ft. Sisseton, South Dakota.
Kent in SD
That's pretty cool!
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That's pretty cool!
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Same here, very nice work, Kent.
JR
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Just hanging around.
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-pJKcC5W/0/0304e019/M/Oct%2027-09%20Kortright%20182%20bwcrop1000-M.jpg)
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The lonely swan dreams. A composite of three images.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Pictorials/i-pDmhW8q/0/dfb10a7d/L/April%205-09%20025%20bwmontage3-1000-L.jpg)
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Mercury, messenger of the gods, his wings clipped, abused and discarded. The other gods twitter.
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Mercury, messenger of the gods, his wings clipped, abused and discarded. The other gods twitter.
This is perhaps a very good example of what had been remarked about Sabine Weiss' way of making the whites come out of the blacks, rather than the opposite direction of emphasis.
You sure do have an eye for moody imagery.
Rob
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This is perhaps a very good example of what had been remarked about Sabine Weiss' way of making the whites come out of the blacks, rather than the opposite direction of emphasis.
You sure do have an eye for moody imagery.
Rob
Agreed!
Here's another dark one :)
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Agreed!
Here's another dark one :)
James, to which body model does that dash belong? I think I remember touches from my Humber of '74.
My wife and I fell in love with the Sunbeam Alpine which, in the States, was also known as the Tiger, but came with a huge American V8 block. The car was Rootes/Chrysler, but for some reason I think the V8 was from Ford, which sounded odd. Playboy gave a pink one to the Playmate of the Year. Anyway, she - my wife, not the Centrefold - took her father down to the dealership trying her magic on him, but to my vast disappointment he didn't bite! It would have been a far more pretty ride than our Hillman Imp.
Then, decades later, the owners of that dealership had become friends of ours out here in Spain, and the wife told us that she'd decided to keep the thing for herself, but that in no time at all she had to be rescued: the garage had forgotten to fill it with oil. I don't know if heads rolled or whether the car was killed.
:-)
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James, to which body model does that dash belong? I think I remember touches from my Humber of '74.
My wife and I fell in love with the Sunbeam Alpine which, in the States, was also known as the Tiger, but came with a huge American V8 block. The car was Rootes/Chrysler, but for some reason I think the V8 was from Ford, which sounded odd. Playboy gave a pink one to the Playmate of the Year. Anyway, she - my wife, not the Centrefold - took her father down to the dealership trying her magic on him, but to my vast disappointment he didn't bite! It would have been a far more pretty ride than our Hillman Imp.
Then, decades later, the owners of that dealership had become friends of ours out here in Spain, and the wife told us that she'd decided to keep the thing for herself, but that in no time at all she had to be rescued: the garage had forgotten to fill it with oil. I don't know if heads rolled or whether the car was killed.
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It is indeed a Tiger, with a giant American V8 :)
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Thank-you Rob & James. Not trying to make this another "chain" thread, but the mention of V8 reminded me of this (a vintage fire truck, actually).
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Thank-you Rob & James. Not trying to make this another "chain" thread, but the mention of V8 reminded me of this (a vintage fire truck, actually).
Sure outguns the V8!
;-)
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As remarked some time ago, I find myself increasingly unable to think of photography in terms of colour, regardless of subject - almost! I also think that the longer the lens used, the more likely I feel that colour would be the way that my mind would look at the thing. I guess it's got a lot to do with focussing down onto a more tightly framed subject where colour may be less of a distraction and, conversely, perhaps the point of the photograph. Anyway:
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As remarked some time ago, I find myself increasingly unable to think of photography in terms of colour, regardless of subject - almost! I also think that the longer the lens used, the more likely I feel that colour would be the way that my mind would look at the thing. I guess it's got a lot to do with focussing down onto a more tightly framed subject where colour may be less of a distraction and, conversely, perhaps the point of the photograph. Anyway:
I often find myself shooting a portrait focal length, though I hadn't really thought about the correlation between perspective and colour/monochrome. The following picture was taken at true telephoto length, however. The river was too deep to ford without filling my boots! Apologies if I've posted it before – I should keep better track of that.
Somewhere on the food chain.
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I often find myself shooting a portrait focal length, though I hadn't really thought about the correlation between perspective and colour/monochrome. The following picture was taken at true telephoto length, however. The river was too deep to ford without filling my boots! Apologies if I've posted it before – I should keep better track of that.
Somewhere on the food chain.
I wouldn't worry, as far as I'm concerned you can post that image as many times as you like.
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Lovely treatment! That fish looks lethal even in death.
Focal length can also become habit: throughout my fashion years, despite having lenses from 24mm to 500mm, I would guess that my two most-used lenses for Nikon were the 35mm and 135mm, the former for full-length and even half-length model shots, the resulting distortion actually being a feature, which currently makes me scratch my head a little, the longer lens reserved mostly for headshots. That work was predominantly in black/white. My 50mm was practically virgin right until I disposed of all my 135 format equipment one mad day.
When I switched to calendars, I began to find myself slightly more fond of long lenses. The calendars were mostly colour, so perhaps the genre does really impact the choices made, for me, at any rate.
Today, the majority of the time I have the 50mm on my old cut-frame D200 (equiv. 75mm on FF) which seems to combine pretty well with my present way of thinking... that said, I wonder which the chicken and which the egg!
Rob
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Since so far (with 1 exception) only achromatics have been posted, I'll add a study in (mostly monochromatic) blues. Hope it sparks some more monochrome color posts.
Cheers,
Bart
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I can get down with that, Bart :) Here's a recent commercial image from earlier this fall.
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I can get down with that, Bart :) Here's a recent commercial image from earlier this fall.
Subtle.
Cheers,
Bart
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Monday Morning Blues:
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Feels like cheating, somehow, but okay:
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Feels like cheating, somehow, but okay:
Thumbs up for your cheat.
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Very nice Eric. I know a place just like that, How uncanny. If only I can find it. In the meantime, here is my bw image:
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-KZfmKn5/0/20ef79ff/M/Feb%2025-13%20Glen%20Haffey%20039%20copybw-1000-M.jpg)
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Thank you Bob!
JR
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Yes Bart, if one can see and capture chromatic monotones, the rewards can be significant as your image shows. Here you go, whites with a hint of blue and green.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Belfountain-and-Forks-of-the/i-KcSNqP2/0/931d0b91/M/Jan%2020-%202018%20Bellfountain_0008%20copy1000-M.jpg)
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Yes Bart, if one can see and capture chromatic monotones, the rewards can be significant as your image shows. Here you go, whites with a hint of blue and green.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Belfountain-and-Forks-of-the/i-KcSNqP2/0/931d0b91/M/Jan%2020-%202018%20Bellfountain_0008%20copy1000-M.jpg)
Would that be a tritone, then - as distinct from the Roman fountain?
;-)
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And reverting to a black and white issue:
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And reverting to a black and white issue:
You title it 'fence', but clearly it is about something mysterious lurking behind a fence, as seen through a fence. Fess up!
JR
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You title it 'fence', but clearly it is about something mysterious lurking behind a fence, as seen through a fence. Fess up!
JR
He more or less already did previously. It's his ongoing feud with the hereafter.
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He more or less already did previously. It's his ongoing feud with the hereafter.
OK, I will him alone... intermittently. Wait, isn't that a movie, 'the sweet hereafter'? See with a little prodding these things come to the fore.
JR
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He more or less already did previously. It's his ongoing feud with the hereafter.
I think I may have fixed a deal with that dimension. Put another way, there's one mighty lot of stuff riding on my side of the bargain!
That apart, John's right: the almost experienced is more interesting to me than the route oft travelled. Maybe that's one way that photography has a thing painters seldom seem to exploit - it may be painters don't spend that much time with lenses and, if they do, usually subscribe to the f16 school of thought.
;-)
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Ok, a little bit closer to monotone, albeit, quite abstract.
Edit: and a second with spider webs intact.)
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guelph/i-W37Rnh5/0/7842e419/M/Dec%202-%202013%20Guelph%20outing%20084%20copy1000-M.jpg)
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Guelph/i-2ctJrQ3/0/4101cc0e/M/Dec%202-%202013%20Guelph%20outing%20082%20copysmug-M.jpg)
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Linking to the arched form in JMR's latest... ;)
Strictly B&W. This was window frost this morning, at -12 C (or +11 F).
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Almost monochromatic?
(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Metamorphosis.jpg)
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Light, shadow, simple forms.
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Pink is in as long as you like flowers.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Niagara-Region/i-szVRM9j/0/9ff56934/M/July%202-11%20RBG%20205%20smugcopy-M.jpg)
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I like flowers, but I'm not partial to pink, I'm afraid.
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I like flowers, but I'm not partial to pink, I'm afraid.
Stunning bw tonality, John. And beautifully lit.
JR
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Stunning bw tonality, John. And beautifully lit.
JR
Thank-you. The light was coming from a single narrow horizontal window above, behind, and just to one side of the subject. I used a white reflector to fill. That was my old house where I had developed a better mental catalog of the window light (seasonal, time-of-day, weather-wise) than my current house.
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Thanks for some wonderful photos that picked up my hint about the broad scope of "monochrome". Here is one in with its natural color, no desaturation.
P. S. I added a "remix", more how I would have printed it in the darkroom. Any opinions?
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Another colour image.
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Experimenting with infrared look. To me it works on so few images. Here is one that looks rather dramatic.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Landscape-Impressions/i-NLPFXPk/0/dafd7420/M/Oct%2013-09%20Glen%20Haffy%20004%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)
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Yes! The composition has something to do with it too, John.
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Paddling On Glitter
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Paddling On Glitter
My mind goes nuts just thinking what that light and contrast would have offered a 500mm Cat lens!
Rob
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Yes! The composition has something to do with it too, John.
Thank you Russ. I am coming to same conclusion.
JR
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Imprisonment
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181127/89d7ead0b6d45488bc9d6db0d937fa05.jpg)
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My mind goes nuts just thinking what that light and contrast would have offered a 500mm Cat lens!
Rob
Thank you, Rob
Not having the Cat 500mm lens, I resorted to a somewhat abstract rendition, trying to get the little bokeh circles this way.
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Imprisonment
I like the chosen rendering considering the subject matter and title. Is the image metaphorical, illustrative, documentary or ?? Composition is very deliberate. Is the posing very deliberate too, or something that the subject did which you then captured?
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I like the chosen rendering considering the subject matter and title. Is the image metaphorical, illustrative, documentary or ?? Composition is very deliberate. Is the posing very deliberate too, or something that the subject did which you then captured?
Thanks for asking.
I had the chance to visit a new penitentiary. I knew we had the opportunity to make some pictures and in that period of my life I was in a state of mind I wanted to metaphorically illustrate. A kind civil servant of the facility understood quit well how to pose.
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Arches.
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Light, light, light and beautiful processing do a masterwork make!
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Some withering roses from my backyard
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Nice and moody.
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A different kind of mood. Sit awhile and take in the soft wintery feeling.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Winter-in-High-Park-2013/i-2TNsHPm/0/e7f8ecd0/L/IMGP0701%20bw3%20copy1000-L.jpg)
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A different kind of mood. Sit awhile and take in the soft wintery feeling.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Winter-in-High-Park-2013/i-2TNsHPm/0/e7f8ecd0/L/IMGP0701%20bw3%20copy1000-L.jpg)
Sit? Are you crazy? They could fall right off or, alternatively, retract so far as never to be seen again!
:-)
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A different kind of mood. Sit awhile and take in the soft wintery feeling.
JR
As winter wears on, though, I find myself just waiting for spring...
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And, indoors, finding a place in the sun.
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Both very nice John B. But the light and chair are so inviting, literally and figuratively.
JR
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Cretan farmhouse.
(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Cretan_Skull.jpg)
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Cretan farmhouse.
(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Cretan_Skull.jpg)
Remains of Medusa? Love the bad hair day!
:-)
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Remains of Medusa? Love the bad hair day!
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Skulls are often attached to chain link fences at the edge of properties. The message being Get off my land!
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Imprisonment
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181127/89d7ead0b6d45488bc9d6db0d937fa05.jpg)
Very nice
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Very nice
Thanks Armand
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Another from the Cretan farmhouse.
(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/Cretan_Skull2.jpg)
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Another from the Cretan farmhouse.
Two skulls at one farmhouse (first looks like a ram, second a Cretan goat/ibex/kri-kri ?). A one-off, or were these displays common (as in, having significance to the Cretans)?
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Two skulls at one farmhouse (first looks like a ram, second a Cretan goat/ibex/kri-kri ?). A one-off, or were these displays common (as in, having significance to the Cretans)?
My wife and I were staying in a very old farmhouse in North West Crete. The owner had a number of skulls he'd picked up on forays into the mountains. It's not unusual to see skulls adorning properties in Crete - if it moves the Cretans will shoot and eat it. We, being collectors of the weird and wonderful, rather naively commented that we found his skulls to be objects of great beauty and thought no more of it.
A couple of days later the owner arrived at our door with a very smelly plastic carrier bag in hand. He told us he'd been visiting the mountain village where he was raised and had been talking to the local Pappa (Priest) who had told him of the sacrificial slaughtering of a ram for the local holy day celebrations. The plastic bag contained the skull of the ram, he had boiled and removed most of the flesh - the cheeks of course saved as a delicacy. My wife then spent the next two days trying to remove as much of the remaining flesh as possible using vast quantities of bleach in an attempt to reduce the smell and flies. Towards the end of our stay we popped the skull together with a fly or two into a cardboard box and posted it off to our home address thinking it'll never get through UK customs and it would be the last we'd see of it. Lo and behold on our arrival back at home there was the box on our doorstep still attracting flies! It took many sessions with bleach and many months in quarantine in our greenhouse before ending up in pride of place on the shelves of our living room amongst similarly weird and wonderful ephemera.
And the moral of this story, be careful what you wish for!
Images shot in 2012 with Hasselblad H Series.
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What a great story. My wife recalls when her high-school science teacher decided he was going to "create" a complete sheep skeleton for his science students. How he got away with it, she's not sure because he boiled those bones over the course of months, and the whole wing of the school reaked with the smell. Of course, that was in the late 1960's – and her mother was still making blood sausage and head cheese at home. Everything from an animal got used.
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maggots actually do a reasonable job, albeit slowly.
Hydrogen peroxide, sodium bicarbonate once you have removed most of the flesh as possible.
Bleach or boiling won't do too much.
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maggots actually do a reasonable job, albeit slowly.
Hydrogen peroxide, sodium bicarbonate once you have removed most of the flesh as possible.
Bleach or boiling won't do too much.
Good to know (I think). :o
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Now, what was it they used in Breaking Bad?
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Now, what was it they used in Breaking Bad?
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I don't know, but here is the traditional procedure for skeletonization: https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/history-gruesome-skeleton-anatomists
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Gosh, I do hope the old bill aren't monitoring this thread.
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Gosh, I do hope the old bill aren't monitoring this thread.
Well, at least it's not political.
Or is it???
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Good to know (I think). :o
I am going to borrow Ivo's emoticon for my thoughts on this subject
But I do love the skeletal images.
JR
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Skulls are often attached to chain link fences at the edge of properties. The message being Keep off my land!
BTW, our skull is affectionately known as Ramesses.
;-)
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An urban skeleton.
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Lights & Lines:
(https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/img/s/v-3/p2519964348-2.jpg) (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/p947292936/e96339abc)
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How about some shadows and lines:
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/On-the-Road/i-chPzvFN/0/fb9366ea/M/Jan%207-13%20East%20mall%20arch%20013-2%20bwcopy1000-M.jpg)
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(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181203/7af3f2ab7aaea1edfd70c17a7d8b0083.jpg)
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I love a good monochrome image! Here's one of mine from last summer.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/924/43321327371_dcb95aa7e3_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/291a8kr)
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I love a good river/stream.
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(https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/img/s/v-2/p1595968469-2.jpg) (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/p947292936/e5f208bd5)
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It's good to see some of your B&W work, Slobodan.
You show so much excellent color work that it is a real pleasure to see such excellent B&W work as well.
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It's good to see some of your B&W work, Slobodan.
You show so much excellent color work that it is a real pleasure to see such excellent B&W work as well.
Thanks, Eric, will try to post some more :)
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(https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/img/s/v-2/p2038071547-2.jpg) (https://www.slobodanblagojevic.com/p947292936/e797a80fb)
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(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4593/39370498342_e912e0c849_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/22Z36vy)
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Your once, twice
Three times a lady
And I love you!
(https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20181204/6e7093477fb9a32439ff091c0cf731e3.jpg)
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I missed all the lines and architecture, but if I hadn't I would have contributed this ;)
PS - If you missed 'em since i flipped the page, go back and look at Ivo's & Slobodan's portraits, Matt's ice and Armand's floral posted just a little bit earlier today - good stuff! (I always feel a little bad for flipping a page not too long after the last post on the previous one).
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It's starting to get cold.
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4907/45271218665_ac90c7eae1_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2bYsQ5R)
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I missed all the lines and architecture, but if I hadn't I would have contributed this ;)
PS - If you missed 'em since i flipped the page, go back and look at Ivo's & Slobodan's portraits, Matt's ice and Armand's floral posted just a little bit earlier today - good stuff! (I always feel a little bad for flipping a page not too long after the last post on the previous one).
Your images is a good reason to flip the page!
Cheers.
Ivo.
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Chicago. And a puff of smoke.
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Gates
Catamarca - Argentina
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Your images is a good reason to flip the page!
Cheers.
Ivo.
Appreciate that :)
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A more gradual change.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/OTTAWA/i-HzhBNT6/0/ea64f04e/M/May%2013-%202016%20Ottawa%20jpegs%20331%20bwcopy2-1000-M.jpg)
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Communications Cannon.
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Communications Cannon.
Nah. It's the tin man blowing his stack. He can't stand the modern city. Wonderful bw tonality.
JR
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Wonderful bw tonality.
Thank-you
Studies, in Black and White. A simple photograph that could be processed in so many different ways – contrast, shadow and highlight detail, colour toning perhaps, and so on. I often find that it takes me even longer to be satisfied with a monochrome rendering than a colour one. Someone else might make very different choices, of course, and produce a very different image. In fact, I've done that myself sometimes, when revisiting an image.
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In the alley beside the Chinese grocer. Revisited rendering.
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Thank-you
Studies, in Black and White. A simple photograph that could be processed in so many different ways – contrast, shadow and highlight detail, colour toning perhaps, and so on. I often find that it takes me even longer to be satisfied with a monochrome rendering than a colour one. Someone else might make very different choices, of course, and produce a very different image. In fact, I've done that myself sometimes, when revisiting an image.
This one has more dramatic lighting, yet calming; I think because of the environment and what the subjects are projecting to the viewer. Excellent.
JR
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In the alley beside the Chinese grocer. Revisited rendering.
Are you sure you don't see in bw? What would this image be without the excellent tonality. Good, maybe. But with this rendering, it just comes to life.
JR
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Frosty cottonwoods this morning. I find winter landscapes often lend themselves well to monochrome renderings.
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Frosty cottonwoods this morning. I find winter landscapes often lend themselves well to monochrome renderings.
Other than the sun, which drags my eye and won't let go, it's a fine image.
Jeremy
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Frosty cottonwoods this morning. I find winter landscapes often lend themselves well to monochrome renderings.
I like this one even better than the one above on this page. The backlighting really makes it!
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Other than the sun, which drags my eye and won't let go, it's a fine image.
Jeremy
It does grab your eye, but it is part of the scene and you instantly recognize why it is there. It's the sun in sun filled image. That's the way I look at it.
JR
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Every step you take, ...I will be watching you... soft shadows and all.
JR
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Ice in the river.
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Ice in the river.
Very good. The first is the better.
Jeremy
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More frosty trees and without the sun in the frame this time. Obscured by the freezing fog that deposits this lovely coating.
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It's starting to get cold.
Love it. Great sky!
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The Autocar Company was one of the first in the U.S. to make vehicles. It's the oldest in the Western hemisphere. The company is little known as it only makes heavy duty trucks for specialty applications. Black and white conversion was done in camera by Ilford FP4, 135mm Rodenstock lens.
Kent in SD
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Monument to multiculturalism. The man is holding two meridians and bringing them together; the doves represent peace and are holding the other meridians aloft. Info from the designer and builder, Francesco Perilli. I thought it would look good as silhouette, which for me was great as the light on surrounding buildings can be very harsh. The building in the background is the old Royal York Hotel.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Front-St-Walk-Toronto/i-QQxNrGJ/0/488251d9/L/Mar%2014-11%20Downtown%20157%20bwcopy1000-L.jpg)
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Monument to multiculturalism. The man is holding two meridians and bringing them together; the doves represent peace and are holding the other meridians aloft. Info from the designer and builder, Francesco Perilli. I thought it would look good as silhouette, which for me was great as the light on surrounding buildings can be very harsh. The building in the background is the old Royal York Hotel.
JR
A much better image than I ever took of of that sculpture!
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A much better image than I ever took of of that sculpture!
Thanks John B. Interesting that I took little notice of these sculptures until I did a tour with the camera club. After the morning break I went out again and studied the sculpture. Quite good. But the light from the towers was very harsh. I waited for some clouds and was able to take a whole series. Right now there is so much construction, it's like a human zoo. Sunday mornings is best, few people out and about and no construction.
JR
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A Scottish river.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/99408200@N05/44384659930/in/dateposted/
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A Scottish river.
A very nice image. I'm no expert on linking Flickr, but you should be able to make the image appear here, no? BTW, the link that you provided takes one to Flickr's resized version which shows an unfortunate, weird pixelation on my computer. When the image is viewed at original size, that problem disappears.
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One more of the multicultural sculpture:
JR
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One more of the multicultural sculpture:
This one works least well for me because of the grey sky and lack of contrast. I find the second you posted is much the best.
Jeremy
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This one works least well for me because of the grey sky and lack of contrast. I find the second you posted is much the best.
Jeremy
Thanks for the comments Jeremy. I am relatively new to bw and not as good as many on this site, like John B. But I try to make it as realistic as possible and not just high contrast. But I agree, the latter image does look overly grey. Did you mean a lighter sky? Something like this?
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I think that's a bit better, yes. But the framing in #2 seems to me to give a sense of movement: the figure appears to be looking up at the departing birds. #3 is much more static, with the birds at best circling the figure.
Jeremy
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I like the first version best, the one silhouetted against the building.
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Thank you for your input and comments Eric and Jeremy.
JR
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I guess it doesn't get any more monochrome than this IRL (this is a color shot). Havana harbor in a heavy downpour:
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Another monochromatic colour shot.
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Just a leaf:
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Leaf (https://flic.kr/p/2dAqARJ) by Slobodan Blagojevic (https://www.flickr.com/photos/slobodan_blagojevic/), on Flickr
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Just a leaf:
The bw rendering is really fine. It pops right out at you.
JR
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Nice one.
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A nice one, Armand.
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Very nice Armand.
JR
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Thank you!
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Good, Armand. I love black-and-white flower shots.
Jeremy
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Good, Armand. I love black-and-white flower shots.
Jeremy
Thank you, this one was quite amenable to a b&w treatment.
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Took this a couple of weeks ago but just did the b&w conversion.
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Nicely done, Matt.
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Got this one just east of Yosemite during a backbacking trip.
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Took this a couple of weeks ago but just did the b&w conversion.
Very nice, Matt. I think if you darkened the sky just a little more (just a little, though: it would be easy to over do it), you'd get better separation of the white trees.
Jeremy
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Very nice, Matt. I think if you darkened the sky just a little more (just a little, though: it would be easy to over do it), you'd get better separation of the white trees.
Jeremy
That's true, but it wouldn't be easy to darken the sky properly, with all the air around and between the branches.
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That's true, but it wouldn't be easy to darken the sky properly, with all the air around and between the branches.
Would darkening the blue channel help? Would a polarizing filter help is this sort of situation? I am just asking out of interest in technique, not criticizing the image, which I like a lot.
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You are right, both techniques should help - if the sky is blue enough or if you shot the scene at such an angle that the polarizer makes the sky darker.
Even so, all the branches and the space between them would create a challenge.
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The bamboo is really nice Armand, although the focus seems off or something else is wrong. It could use a perfect sharp capture so the joints stand out as a separate pattern in the image.
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That's true, but it wouldn't be easy to darken the sky properly, with all the air around and between the branches.
I meant to respond to this a while back but I did darken the blue channel and it does look better. I'll probably print this at some point.
Thanks for the suggestion!
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The bamboo is really nice Armand, although the focus seems off or something else is wrong. It could use a perfect sharp capture so the joints stand out as a separate pattern in the image.
Thank you. I'm not sure what looks off to you but focus is decent, see a 100% crop.
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A different look:
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Autumn-Images-2012/i-2k6CfQH/0/7e4be547/M/May%20412%2010%20Kortright%20055%20IRbwcopy-1000-M.jpg)
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Rising water on the Gunnison
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A lovely image Matt. From one of favourite spots.
JR
(https://photos.smugmug.com/Glen-Haffey/i-VsNt539/0/5a12468c/M/Apr%2013-10%20Forks%20002%20bw-ortoncrop-1000-M.jpg)
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A lovely image Matt. From one of favourite spots.
JR
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Thanks! Yes, it's my go-to quick spot about 2 minutes drive (maybe 10 by bike) from the house. Easy to grab some shots there if suddenly the conditions look good but I didn't anticipate it and I'm still at home. :)
I like that cattails shot too. I love how they illuminate in the right light. They play off those dark shadows nicely.
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lilies
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Turbulence
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/46740425435_49abb4ed1c_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2edhU54)
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Shadowed...
This is one from a few years ago but fits this thread.
Peter
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Nice, Peter!
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wet monos
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Nice ones.
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Shadowed...
This is one from a few years ago but fits this thread.
Peter
Just hearing the song Ruby (don't take your love to town) with a line about "shadow on the wall" which is some coincidence.
This is on Radio Caroline which is an Internet version of the old, eponymous pirate radio station that used to transmit from two boats (North and South) anchored out of UK jurisdiction which, however, didn't prevent them sending out the armed forces to shut them the eff up, which was a crime to the ears of all of us for whom Caroline was as close to a love affair as ever a cold, midnight darkroom was likely to offer whilst still allowing the making of hundreds of prints for next day delivery while the clients slept on sheets of silk - or something like that. I sometimes hated the guys who kept us eating, but mostly I got over it..
Very strong image, Peter.
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Thank you Eric and Rob for your most welcomed nods...
Peter
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building
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Salmon River
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Salmon River
Both very nice but is that sensor dirt on the second or odd clouds? Nicely seen and taken regardless.
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Both very nice but is that sensor dirt on the second or odd clouds? Nicely seen and taken regardless.
To be honest I'm not sure. I noticed it during processing and said I'll deal with it when I'm done and then I forgot. I'll give it another try when I have time.
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moonlit
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Birdie:
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Spring squall and irrigation ditch
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Fine one.
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patterns
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Stockholm
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The Downward Spiral
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The Downward Spiral
Lovely swirling sky, Chris. I think Charlie Cramer in "edge patrol" mode would have had something to say about the half street light on the left, though.
Jeremy
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If it was a wall hanger, I would worry over that detail, but it's just a nice image.
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To Appease Charlie and go the other way in an Upward Spiral
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Both nice images.
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arches
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Rather fond of the last one in the series but enjoyed them all.
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Nice series.
My fave is the first, for the multiple arches.
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Nice series.
My fave is the first, for the multiple arches.
Same here.
JR
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Thank you
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To the other side
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Table for Four
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messy
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storm
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Walking by the River Aare
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C-130 over the river (near the airport which gets used for high altitude training).
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river
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river 2
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creative mood
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until death
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Thought I'ld add an image for the discussion.
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Thought I'ld add an image for the discussion.
Intriguing. I like it.
Jeremy
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Intriguing. I like it.
Jeremy
Me, too.
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Me, too.
Me three. And I have to add, I love how you created the shaded areas that give the whole image the relief needed to create the shapes and textures in this wonderful whitewash.
JR
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Thank you gentlemen. It was taken from the highline walkway in Manhattan.One of those things that one looks at and you just have to take a shot.
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It strikes me as something Oscar could not have refused.
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Me three. And I have to add, I love how you created the shaded areas that give the whole image the relief needed to create the shapes and textures in this wonderful whitewash.
JR
And me four. Great catch.
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reflection
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Very nice.
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I agree with Eric.
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Near Mt. Rainier late last year. Lot of forest fires in the area caused the haziness, almost to the point of it being difficult to stay out in it for very long. Thought I'ld throw it into the mix as there's no black and no white; if I understand the topic correctly it should fit?
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I find myself coughing just looking at the smoke.
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I like the smoke layered effect but I hate actually being in it as I imagine we all do.
The big fire in Colorado is like 50 miles from here but luckily downwind for us.
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Who is Oscar?
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Very nice.
I agree with Eric.
Thank you!
Another one from the past that got a little more love, probably too much.
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Or a gloomier version
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It strikes me as something Oscar could not have refused.
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My wife and I hiked into the Gunnison River canyon via Curecanti Creek a little upstream from Black Canyon of the Gunnison NP yesterday. Beautiful hike but light was very harsh for the big vistas (clear skies, mid-day). Being in a canyon made for plentiful shadow areas and the creek was at a perfect level for this kind of shot. I could have spent all day there finding new little pools and drops but I think I'll have to return solo to be able to comfortable spend that kind of time there (wife is patient for a while but gets cold or hungry long before I usually do).
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My wife and I hiked into the Gunnison River canyon via Curecanti Creek a little upstream from Black Canyon of the Gunnison NP yesterday. Beautiful hike but light was very harsh for the big vistas (clear skies, mid-day). Being in a canyon made for plentiful shadow areas and the creek was at a perfect level for this kind of shot. I could have spent all day there finding new little pools and drops but I think I'll have to return solo to be able to comfortable spend that kind of time there (wife is patient for a while but gets cold or hungry long before I usually do).
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/48893501038_c0c919c5a7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2huxYrd)
I like this one a lot.
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I like this one a lot.
Same here.
JR
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I like this one a lot.
Same here.
JR
Thank you both! I only had my tiny Ultrapod II with me so I was standing on rocks in the middle of the creek and balancing this little rig on another rock. I was happy to come away with my gear, a usable photo (or a few), and dry feet!
I was also testing out a new lens to me, a 24mm f/2 which seems very nice so far. It's to make a small-ish FF prime kit for traveling light (24/2,43/1.9, & 77/1.8 ).
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Z7 + FTZ + 18-35 3.5-4.5 @ 18mm
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Tricolor over black and white.
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Eric, sounds like my wife(bless her) . Beautiful shot. What are you using and what were the settings?
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Eric, sounds like my wife(bless her) . Beautiful shot. What are you using and what were the settings?
I think you mean Matt. It is his photo (and wife.)
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Yep you're right Eric. I got that one messed up. Thanks for the aid.
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Eric, sounds like my wife(bless her) . Beautiful shot. What are you using and what were the settings?
Thanks. Yes she is a good sport, even when she's not so into whatever I'm doing to hold us up. I'm a lucky man. :)
I was shooting my Pentax K-1 mk II and my newly acquired Pentax FA* 24/2.
You can view the exif in Flickr by clicking on the image but since I'm replying anyway:
1/4s, f/16, ISO 100
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Airborne
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Airborne
I think the first and last work the best as far as aesthetics go. Love the river shape in #1. Nice series and having done an aerial shoot myself recently, it was probably pretty fun too!
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Grey sunset last night but interesting clouds so I was already thinking of a mono treatment while shooting it.
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One of my favorite conversions. I just got this back from Bay Photo as a 30x60 triptych
Sunrise at St Marks Lighthouse
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I like the way the forms of clouds mirror the form of water.
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I like the way the forms of clouds mirror the form of water.
Thanks and yeah, me too! I had to stand in the creek to get it to line up right. :)
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I think the first and last work the best as far as aesthetics go. Love the river shape in #1. Nice series and having done an aerial shoot myself recently, it was probably pretty fun too!
Thank you!
The scenes were quite nice but I was in a regular airplane with all the downsides: no control over the position, crappy windows with blurred periphery. So the fun quotient was not that high, more frustrating to see the good scenes but knowing I won't get the most of them.
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Thank you!
The scenes were quite nice but I was in a regular airplane with all the downsides: no control over the position, crappy windows with blurred periphery. So the fun quotient was not that high, more frustrating to see the good scenes but knowing I won't get the most of them.
Ah yes, I'm familiar with that variety too. Much less satisfying! Considering the changes you did very well.
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Pukwana, SD
St. Procopius Church
"Retired" Catholic Church several miles from any dwellings, five miles south of Pukwana. The church still has one service a year, on the Sunday before Memorial Day. I believe the church founders were Serbian. It was built in 1891 to replace a church that disappeared during a tornado, and never received electricity. The church was in active use until the early 1990s, heated with a wood stove during winter.
Camera: c.1925 Gundlach Korona 5x7. Lens: c.1862 Voigtlander Petzval FL=12 inch (300mm). Wet plate shot on black tin, f16 and 2s exposure.
Kent in SD
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Badus, South Dakota
St. Ann's Catholic Church
Built in 1884 by Swiss settlers. Church is now "retired" but still holds a service on St. Ann's feast day. There once was a town built around it but all is now gone. Camera was Chamonix 045n 4x5. Lens: 1870s McCollin Orthoscope (rapid rectilinear) FL= 12 inch. Wet plate exposure: 4s @ f16.
Kent in SD
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Kent,
I think your use of "classic" equipment and techniques works well for these "retired" churches.
It really enhances the feeling of moving back in time.
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Florence, South Dakota
Goodhue Lutheran Church (retired)
Another image made with my Chamonix 4x5. Lens: c.1900 Bausch & Lomb FL=6 in. rapid rectilinear. Exposure was 4s and f16, wet plate on tin.
Kent in SD
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Cold morning at the river
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Same spot as the last photo I posted here above. It had completely frozen over for a while and has now opened up again as its been warming.
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