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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: Ivo_B on September 08, 2018, 10:39:32 am

Title: The pot plant
Post by: Ivo_B on September 08, 2018, 10:39:32 am
Maybe it would be nice if we try to post images in the style of the pot plant. Nothing to be ashamed of imo :-)

What do we think of this image which is not mine, btw?


(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/17493d3333d66632a4b6814c70d4b0da)Image by W.Eggleston
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Rob C on September 08, 2018, 11:02:58 am
I do not like the work of that particular William.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivophoto on September 08, 2018, 11:13:44 am
I do not like the work of that particular William.

I’m not surprised Rob.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on September 08, 2018, 11:33:28 am
Crap.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Frans Waterlander on September 08, 2018, 12:25:52 pm
Where's the building inspector when you need one?
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Rob C on September 08, 2018, 02:08:12 pm
Where's the building inspector when you need one?

Smoking pot on the verandah of his mansion, gazing at the moss-covered vines and hearing Louis Armstrong tell how it feels to miss New Orleans.

"Miss the moss-covered vines, tall sugar pines
Where mockingbirds used to sing
I'd love to see that old lazy Mississippi
Hurrying into Spring"

I heard/saw the man once with his Allstars - Glasgow in the 50s, I think it was. Magical.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: RSL on September 08, 2018, 03:39:15 pm
Maybe it would be nice if we try to post images in the style of the pot plant. Nothing to be ashamed of imo :-)

Why would anyone not already in a straightjacket want to post images in the style of the pot plant? There would be PLENTY to be ashamed of. And I agree with Rob about Eggleston.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivophoto on September 08, 2018, 04:39:52 pm
Why would anyone not already in a straightjacket want to post images in the style of the pot plant? There would be PLENTY to be ashamed of. And I agree with Rob about Eggleston.

The Metropolitan, MOMA and other museum have another vision on Eggleston. But I guess they are complete idiot regarding photography.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Telecaster on September 08, 2018, 05:08:23 pm
The photo graces the cover of one of my favorite albums (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_City_(album)). So I like it for that reason. And the geometry. And the White Stripes (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_White_Stripes) color scheme.

-Dave-
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Rob C on September 08, 2018, 06:15:11 pm
The Metropolitan, MOMA and other museum have another vision on Eggleston. But I guess they are complete idiot regarding photography.

It has crossed my mind.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: fdisilvestro on September 08, 2018, 06:26:17 pm
Museums have a weird vision on photography sometimes. They will display a lower quality copy of an image by Richard Prince, but the original from Sam Abell would never reach a museum wall
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 08, 2018, 09:54:46 pm
Maybe it would be nice if we try to post images in the style of the pot plant. Nothing to be ashamed of imo :-)

No pot plants (although I would be allowed to grow up to 4 plants here in Canada soon).  ;)  Some of Eggy's favourite subjects though. The B&W's were taken in 1974, and the colour shot 43 years later, but toned more like film(?)
Title: The pot plant
Post by: Ivophoto on September 09, 2018, 02:46:26 am
I like them JNB. I can look for hours to the last one. The first is composition wise brilliant and the second is also pleasant to look at.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: drmike on September 09, 2018, 02:56:49 am
I like them JNB. I can look for hours to the last one. The first is composition wise brilliant and the second is also pleasant to look at.

The first two seem to me to have the strength to stand alone just as images. The last one probably needs some cultural context which I probably lack. Either that or it's just too complicated for a simple soul like me. I can like complex compositions but I need to be drawn in, the last shot doesn't do that - at first sight anyway.

Mike
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: drmike on September 09, 2018, 03:03:06 am
As for the original red shot I have never quite understood its appeal but the composition seems well balanced, the colours used are powerful and simple. You get drawn into speculating about what the other wires are for (is this not  the blasted ambiguity you lot seem fixated on?). It's context is set in a subtle way if you can read it - but could someone not familiar with US 'pop' culture detect them?

At the time no doubt he felt he was pushing boundaries or being provocative. It often does provoke a reaction :)

Mike
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivo_B on September 09, 2018, 03:34:10 am
Certainly not the quality of JNB's contribution, but it is my look at the world around my west EU place which lacks the spectacularity's of the US.



(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7706/17015394898_2888ca08b7_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rVAm6y)Netevallei (https://flic.kr/p/rVAm6y) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr

Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivo_B on September 09, 2018, 03:37:40 am
As for the original red shot I have never quite understood its appeal but the composition seems well balanced, the colours used are powerful and simple. You get drawn into speculating about what the other wires are for (is this not  the blasted ambiguity you lot seem fixated on?). It's context is set in a subtle way if you can read it - but could someone not familiar with US 'pop' culture detect them?

At the time no doubt he felt he was pushing boundaries or being provocative. It often does provoke a reaction :)

Mike

I chose this red one with reason :-) It is best to start with a nice controversial one.
But even when you look the the Eggleston original, and you look to the other pictures, you see the visual impact of the image, regardless the content, I find this incredibly interesting.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: drmike on September 09, 2018, 03:42:33 am
You wee devil Ivo you edited your post with the images in and excluded the one I liked best :)

I have been searching for a link to the Martin Parr shot of the wagon wheel ceiling light which seems to me equally odd as the red shot. I missed my chance to ask him why he took it. Hopefully there will be another chance.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivo_B on September 09, 2018, 03:44:10 am
You wee devil Ivo you edited your post with the images in and excluded the one I liked best :)

I have been searching for a link to the Martin Parr shot of the wagon wheel ceiling light which seems to me equally odd as the red shot. I missed my chance to ask him why he took it. Hopefully there will be another chance.
I'm splitting them in separate posts, Mike... :-)
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: drmike on September 09, 2018, 03:45:08 am
Be quick, I have to go and decorate the dining room, sigh.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivo_B on September 09, 2018, 03:47:19 am
Car butt

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3866/15307381491_4eecaff5df_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pjEkdx)American Cars (https://flic.kr/p/pjEkdx) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivo_B on September 09, 2018, 03:48:46 am
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5627/22418532304_6f72deb970_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/Aa3QB3)Antwerp Autumn (https://flic.kr/p/Aa3QB3) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Ivo_B on September 09, 2018, 03:49:45 am
An attempt to find the edge that Eggleston defined.

(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8738/16968319765_fd7a54d92d_o.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rRr5ik)Yuca (https://flic.kr/p/rRr5ik) by Ivo Bogaerts (https://www.flickr.com/photos/ivophoto/), on Flickr
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: drmike on September 09, 2018, 03:56:09 am
Car Butt was the one for me - although does the foliage behind the butt add or detract? No idea.

I would have cropped differently but hey that's different people.

Mike

Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Rob C on September 09, 2018, 05:30:58 am
No pot plants (although I would be allowed to grow up to 4 plants here in Canada soon).  ;)  Some of Eggy's favourite subjects though. The B&W's were taken in 1974, and the colour shot 43 years later, but toned more like film(?)

In the colour shot, the rust-coloured rusty one reminds me of the general profile of a Hudson Hornet, except that I think they used to have the rear wheels more covered in; is that of what it may have been some iteration?

The black/white ones: I love the bold, positive profile of the two-door; any idea what it is?

Rob
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: KLaban on September 09, 2018, 05:46:24 am
Crap.

Apply the rules of the camera club, the workshop and the How to manuals, and even shit can look pretty. The curator, however, prefers shit to look crappy.

(http://www.keithlaban.co.uk/shi.jpg)

;-) 
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: RSL on September 09, 2018, 08:14:01 am
The Metropolitan, MOMA and other museum have another vision on Eggleston. But I guess they are complete idiot regarding photography.

Nowadays that's sometimes the case.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: JNB_Rare on September 09, 2018, 08:20:25 am
The 2-door is a Cadillac, precise vintage I don't know. As for the colour shot, this is a collector/creator here in Nova Scotia who likes to monkey around ("chop") old cars he finds. The B&W shots were probably composed quite deliberately. The last one (colour) is more of a stop-and-grab snapshot. My friend (who was driving) was in a hurry to get somewhere.

I think Eggleston and I see (think?) very differently (no big revelation there), just as Ivo and Rob and I would probably come back with very different pictures from the same walkabout. I like looking at images that have been curated and deemed worth sharing, even when my initial reaction might be what a load of crap!. Sometimes my opinion stays the same, sometimes it shifts as I look closer, or question; either way, I figure I've incorporated something into my sphere of experience.
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: Rob C on September 09, 2018, 08:20:51 am
Keith, I thought you didn't touch tobacco.

Rob
Title: Re: The pot plant
Post by: drmike on September 09, 2018, 03:07:55 pm
I have been searching for a link to the Martin Parr shot of the wagon wheel ceiling light which seems to me equally odd as the red shot. I missed my chance to ask him why he took it. Hopefully there will be another chance.

Found it

(https://content.magnumphotos.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/cortex/lon136660-photographer-featured.jpg)

WTF?

Mike