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The Art of Photography => Discussing Photographic Styles => Topic started by: Rob C on August 24, 2018, 07:57:05 am

Title: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Rob C on August 24, 2018, 07:57:05 am
There was always a woman!

https://www.google.com/search?client=safari&channel=ipad_bm&source=hp&ei=5fF_W6mTIOuPlwTpwI-4Cw&q=sabineweiss+i+aenes&oq=sabineweiss+i+aenes&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-hp.3..33i160l2.3071.10746..12242...0.0..0.242.2282.6j12j1......0....1.......3..0j41j46j0i10j46i10j46i13j0i13j0i22i30j0i22i10i30j30i10.YOD-NLGfJ8I#imgrc=PgMIeVciuWfZPM:
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: RSL on August 25, 2018, 10:20:37 am
It's no use, Rob. She went click, click, click, but she didn't do it the way we do it nowadays. Just ask Ivo.
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Rob C on August 25, 2018, 10:59:30 am
It's no use, Rob. She went click, click, click, but she didn't do it the way we do it nowadays. Just ask Ivo.


Worse - the link has been stolen by a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with her!

I must see if there is a better, functioning one around.

 
  https://vimeo.com/193155168
Rob
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: mbaginy on August 25, 2018, 11:48:18 am
An enjoyable film, Rob.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Rob C on August 25, 2018, 12:16:18 pm
An enjoyable film, Rob.  Thanks!
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Glad to have been of some use!

 https://fresques.ina.fr/elles-centrepompidou/fiche-media/ArtFem00201/sabine-weiss.html
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: mbaginy on August 25, 2018, 03:55:56 pm
J'aimerais pouvoir parler français.  But I enjoyed that last film nonetheless.
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: RSL on August 25, 2018, 04:00:04 pm
She was good.
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Ivophoto on August 25, 2018, 04:16:05 pm
It's no use, Rob. She went click, click, click, but she didn't do it the way we do it nowadays. Just ask Ivo.

What do you want to know, soldier?
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Rob C on August 25, 2018, 04:34:04 pm
J'aimerais pouvoir parler français.  But I enjoyed that last film nonetheless.


Mine ended in school, but I also enjoy some French cop shows - English captions help!

Watching an interview with Monica Bellucci was depressing: she speaks Italian - of course - French, Serb, English...

Oh well, she still looks great at fifty or whatever. And why not? Perhaps it's that dedication to study :)

Rob
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Ivo_B on August 26, 2018, 07:00:03 am
In Belgium we have 3 national languages. Dutch, French and German. English comes with the music and TV. A good part of the Flemish community can make them understandable in the four languages. French, English and German are standard education, btw.
Understanding, talking and writing are different beasts, tough. :-)

Anyhow. Sabine Weiss speaks very clean French and doesn't swallow the words, that makes it good to understand.


In the French interview she replies very unpretentious and close to earth, that makes here a pleasant person as well. It is not a surprise here photo work is 'très agréable'
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Rob C on August 26, 2018, 12:08:20 pm
In Belgium we have 3 national languages. Dutch, French and German. English comes with the music and TV. A good part of the Flemish community can make them understandable in the four languages. French, English and German are standard education, btw.
Understanding, talking and writing are different beasts, tough. :-)

Anyhow. Sabine Weiss speaks very clean French and doesn't swallow the words, that makes it good to understand.


In the French interview she replies very unpretentious and close to earth, that makes here a pleasant person as well. It is not a surprise here photo work is 'très agréable'


That thing about speech is where the French screw up: they have no idea of how to pronounce what they write. Considering that French is a fairly easy language to read, probably on the same difficulty level as Spanish (Castilian), I simply can't see what they find difficult. It's obviously a native fault, because I find that native English speakers are all easy to understand when they speak French. It was exactly the same in school: the French French teachers were almost incomprehensible, but the British ones perfectly lucid.

Go figure.
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: mbaginy on August 26, 2018, 12:19:39 pm
That thing about speech is where the French screw up: they have no idea of how to pronounce what they write.
:D
And I though it was only me...
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Ivophoto on August 26, 2018, 01:57:43 pm

That thing about speech is where the French screw up: they have no idea of how to pronounce what they write. Considering that French is a fairly easy language to read, probably on the same difficulty level as Spanish (Castilian), I simply can't see what they find difficult. It's obviously a native fault, because I find that native English speakers are all easy to understand when they speak French. It was exactly the same in school: the French French teachers were almost incomprehensible, but the British ones perfectly lucid.

Go figure.


The written French language is different than the spoken.

Native English pronounce the french better than the French? The French will laugh with this. Me to, to be honest.

Maybe English peoples will understand the words better, but this is not quit the same as correctly spoken.

This said, it is true French is not the sole property of my neighbors in France, there is a serious difference in the French from France and the French from Canada. Canadians don’t have the Celtic heritage of the twentyfold.
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Rob C on August 26, 2018, 03:39:58 pm

1. The written French language is different than the spoken.

2. Native English pronounce the french better than the French? The French will laugh with this. Me to, to be honest.

Maybe English peoples will understand the words better, but this is not quit the same as correctly spoken.

3. This said, it is true French is not the sole property of my neighbors in France, there is a serious difference in the French from France and the French from Canada. Canadians don’t have the Celtic heritage of the twentyfold.


1. English is exactly the same: written English is fairly formal, whereas spoken English (in some quarters) is far more of a colloquial creature - sometimes to the extent, because of accent, of being incomprehensible to people from different regions of Britain.

2. That was, of course, tongue-in-cheek - a technique that might get me a better French accent, but probably do zilch for my ear.

3. Not sure what twentyfold implies in this context; as for different versions of French - try listening to Cajun radio if you want to find yourself swimming with linguistic alligators.

Rob
Title: Sabine Weiss
Post by: Ivophoto on August 26, 2018, 03:51:22 pm
Twentyfold ( not sure if it is the correct word)

Quatre vingt
Quatre vingt dix

In Swiss they say: octante or huitante and nonante. (I’m not sure about Canada)

It comes from old Celtic metric system which was a twenty part system.

Wine: Vin, comes from 20, which was the unit of a wine yard (vignoble). Etc etc.
Title: Re: Sabine Weiss
Post by: John R on August 26, 2018, 10:01:51 pm

Worse - the link has been stolen by a bunch of stuff that has nothing to do with her!

I must see if there is a better, functioning one around.

 
  https://vimeo.com/193155168
Rob
Really enjoyed the interview and images. Excellent photographer IMHO.

JR