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The Art of Photography => Landscape Showcase => Topic started by: KMRennie on June 11, 2018, 06:12:55 pm

Title: Poppies
Post by: KMRennie on June 11, 2018, 06:12:55 pm
A spectacular sight but backlit poppies are difficult to fit into sRGB. For reasons that must make sense to economists, but not to me, we pay farmers to leave some fields to grow what they will and at this time of year we get poppies. We have had more than a week of hot weather and this has led to poor visibility as well as thunderstorms and flash floods but gives atmospheric images. Comments? Ken
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Post by: sdwilsonsct on June 11, 2018, 06:47:18 pm
Comments? Ken

Very nice. I wonder about the brighter area on the lowest part of the tree trunk, whether it is a processing artifact or natural.
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Post by: KMRennie on June 11, 2018, 07:08:04 pm
Sloppy processing. Ken
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Post by: guido on June 11, 2018, 07:52:43 pm
Well seen Ken! You really capture that heavy air...
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Post by: maddogmurph on June 12, 2018, 02:11:16 am
You crushed that.
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Post by: Paulo Bizarro on June 12, 2018, 04:45:43 am
I like it.
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Post by: Farmer on June 12, 2018, 07:11:55 am
Very painterly - fantastic!
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Post by: Bob_B on June 12, 2018, 08:36:27 am
+1, lovely
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Post by: KMRennie on June 12, 2018, 11:03:04 am
Taken earlier and with the sun sidelighting the image. We are due strong winds and heavy rain tomorrow night so the poppies will be gone for another year. Ken
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Post by: guido on June 12, 2018, 12:02:44 pm
Completely lovely! Just marvelous!
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Post by: Jeremy Roussak on June 12, 2018, 02:54:31 pm
They're both lovely but I much prefer the second.

Jeremy
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Post by: francois on June 13, 2018, 10:40:33 am
I also like those poppies shots. The second has some fluorescent colors that I like very much but the first one is more relaxing/quieter.
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Post by: RSL on June 13, 2018, 11:01:21 am
They're both lovely but I much prefer the second.

Jeremy

+1
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Post by: Martin Kristiansen on June 13, 2018, 11:23:41 am
The more I look at these the more I like them. That’s hard to achieve. Personally I much prefer the first image.
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Post by: 32BT on June 13, 2018, 12:31:58 pm
For me they both capture the poppies well. I prefer the second for better depicting the feel of a warm summer day, a more congruent image. The WB seems better overall as well. I don't much like the appearance of the trees going near black.
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Post by: MattBurt on June 13, 2018, 12:35:48 pm
I love them both. The first in particular reminds me of some of Monet's paintings of the same subject.
My mom had a poster of this one in our house when I was young and your first shot immediately reminded me of it.
(https://www.claude-monet.com/images/paintings/poppies.jpg)
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Post by: guido on June 13, 2018, 12:39:44 pm
I love them both. The first in particular reminds me of some of Monet's paintings of the same subject.
My mom had a poster of this one in our house when I was young and your first shot immediately reminded me of it.
(https://www.claude-monet.com/images/paintings/poppies.jpg)

Exactly!
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Post by: Dave (Isle of Skye) on June 21, 2018, 07:48:46 pm
They're both lovely but I much prefer the second.

Jeremy

I agree.

A spectacular sight but backlit poppies are difficult to fit into sRGB. For reasons that must make sense to economists, but not to me...

In my earlier years working in the heavy industry steel works in Sheffield (UK), I was roped into welding someone's old car up for them over a weekend and the car was red and the welding I did on it was extensive, wings, sills and a whole lot more. The owner of the car (a skinflint as it turned out and who never even bought me a pint I might add and who also spent the next two years avoiding eye contact with me in case I asked him for some kind of payment, but I digress) decided he wanted to paint a different colour over it after I'd finished burning myself to a crisp under his rusty old wreck for two days solid. But the spray man he asked to drop by took one look at it and said oh you can't do that very easily with red paint, as the colour red will always bleed back through to the top, as there is something about the colour red that seems to be so strong, it will always overpower any other colours above it. I am only relating this story, because some years later I was trying to print a picture of a field of poppies and the reds just kept blocking up on the print, even though they looked perfectly fine and detailed on the screen and my mind kept going back to what the spray painting guy told me about the colour red.

Dave
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Post by: Rayyan on June 23, 2018, 03:41:16 pm

+1 to that.

They're both lovely but I much prefer the second.

Jeremy
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Post by: luxborealis on June 24, 2018, 07:31:23 am
Taken earlier and with the sun sidelighting the image. We are due strong winds and heavy rain tomorrow night so the poppies will be gone for another year. Ken

Two very different 8nterpretations – both wonderful! I miss those fields of poppies!
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Post by: KMRennie on June 28, 2018, 02:17:27 am
 Thanks again for the overgenerous comments. I have been slow to reply as I am presently on a cycling holiday in the Alps and am too mean to pay for internet access. Will post some images when I get home including a few high contrast sunsets that could give me problems rendering naturally. The view was stunning but I often find that trying to stuff 20 stops of dynamic range into 8 stops often leads to an unnatural looking end result, here's hoping. Ken
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Post by: guido on June 28, 2018, 12:18:32 pm
HDR is your friend...
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Post by: KMRennie on June 29, 2018, 07:08:10 am
HDR is your friend... I agree that some form of HDR capture is needed when life will not fit into the available dynamic range of the equipment bing used. I was alluding to the difficulty of then compressing the dynamic range captured down to 8 bits for screen, something like 6 bits for Baryta printing and probably less than 5 bits for Matt printing and still make the image believable, interesting and dynamic whilst avoiding the colour shifts and other artifacts that can occur. Ken ☺️