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Title: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 05, 2018, 08:09:48 pm
I have a Canon IPF6400 that I will have to occasionally leave unattended for a month at a time. Is there a way to have it nozzle chec,k or clean heads, or print a test image using all the nozzles on a weekly schedule. I think I could write a script to schedule printing but would need a test image to use the nozzles.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: digitaldog on May 05, 2018, 08:11:59 pm
On a Mac, pretty easy using an Automator action through the Calendar app. What OS?
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: gchappel on May 05, 2018, 08:30:30 pm
I use qimage to print on my ipf8400.
It has an automatic nozzle print function, which I use occasionally.
I find qimage worth it- your mileage may vary.
Gary
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 05, 2018, 08:38:48 pm
On a Mac, pretty easy using an Automator action through the Calendar app. What OS?

Mac Sierra - I know how to use Automator. Any suggestions for the print?
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 05, 2018, 08:39:57 pm
I use qimage to print on my ipf8400.
It has an automatic nozzle print function, which I use occasionally.
I find qimage worth it- your mileage may vary.
Gary

Does the Mac version have the automatic print function?
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Jeff-Grant on May 05, 2018, 09:54:25 pm
I would like ti know how to set up Automator to do this. Any pointers to where I can find out how?
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: digitaldog on May 05, 2018, 10:02:27 pm
Mac Sierra - I know how to use Automator. Any suggestions for the print?
I was doing this for an Epson 4900 which would clog nearly every other day without and it only needed to print something very small, similar to it's nozzle check. I used this file that I use to check linearity:

**Download this test file for visually examining ink density. Used to test best media settings for 3rd party papers (http://digitaldog.net/files/InkDensity.zip)

I'm not familiar with Canon after the 5000 which I had and honestly don't know what's appropriate. I would check with other users of your model. But once you get that data, it is super easy to setup a calendar for just printing via the Automator action.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 05, 2018, 10:05:46 pm
I would like ti know how to set up Automator to do this. Any pointers to where I can find out how?

https://resources.oreilly.com/examples/0636920032731/blob/master/Automator%20&%20AppleScript.pdf
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: digitaldog on May 05, 2018, 10:05:56 pm
I would like ti know how to set up Automator to do this. Any pointers to where I can find out how?
Here's a start, fill in the blanks and test.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 05, 2018, 10:11:58 pm
I would like ti know how to set up Automator to do this. Any pointers to where I can find out how?

Here is a link to the an appendix of David Pogue's 'Missing Manual' that give a quick course on Automator.
https://resources.oreilly.com/examples/0636920032731/blob/master/Automator%20&%20AppleScript.pdf
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 05, 2018, 10:23:40 pm
I was doing this for an Epson 4900 which would clog nearly every other day without and it only needed to print something very small, similar to it's nozzle check. I used this file that I use to check linearity:

**Download this test file for visually examining ink density. Used to test best media settings for 3rd party papers (http://digitaldog.net/files/InkDensity.zip)

I'm not familiar with Canon after the 5000 which I had and honestly don't know what's appropriate. I would check with other users of your model. But once you get that data, it is super easy to setup a calendar for just printing via the Automator action.

Thanks
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: David Budd on May 05, 2018, 11:03:24 pm
You could try this for Mac....I use this on a Canon Pro 2000.

https://github.com/jt70471/InkjetPlumber

-D.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Jeff-Grant on May 06, 2018, 12:13:24 am
You could try this for Mac....I use this on a Canon Pro 2000.

https://github.com/jt70471/InkjetPlumber

-D.

I have Inkjet Plumber but what I want to do is use PrintTool with a flush image which will exercise the ink lines. The nozzle check pattern doesn't move the head much.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Jeff-Grant on May 06, 2018, 12:14:11 am
https://resources.oreilly.com/examples/0636920032731/blob/master/Automator%20&%20AppleScript.pdf

Thanks. I'm reading it now.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Jeff-Grant on May 06, 2018, 03:28:46 am
Having blown an hour or so, I'm no closer to achieving a result. I used the 'Watch me do' to record a series of actions. I want to open a file in PrintTool, and then print it. The file will exercise the ink lines by printing at 2880 and printing each channel as a pattern, so a nozzle check won't do it. Having saved my actions as an app, I get an error each time that I try to run it. I have been through the security kafoofle too. Searching the web, it looks like I'm not alone. I don't want to derail the thread. I'm just pointing out that by Sierra, it's getting more difficult.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 06, 2018, 09:23:30 am
Having blown an hour or so, I'm no closer to achieving a result. I used the 'Watch me do' to record a series of actions. I want to open a file in PrintTool, and then print it. The file will exercise the ink lines by printing at 2880 and printing each channel as a pattern, so a nozzle check won't do it. Having saved my actions as an app, I get an error each time that I try to run it. I have been through the security kafoofle too. Searching the web, it looks like I'm not alone. I don't want to derail the thread. I'm just pointing out that by Sierra, it's getting more difficult.

Sierra seems to be a PITA for Automator. Maybe I can just use a script. Do you have an image to exercise the ink lines on an IPF6400?
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: gchappel on May 06, 2018, 11:09:08 am
Does the Mac version have the automatic print function?

Not sure if mac version has it, I am pic based.
I have 3 printers on separate schedules to auto print. Qimage also has an image that uses all colors. They make it easy.
Gary
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: sapobufo on May 06, 2018, 05:49:45 pm
Not sure if mac version has it, I am pic based.
I have 3 printers on separate schedules to auto print. Qimage also has an image that uses all colors. They make it easy.
Gary

I just got a note from Andrew Wilford at Binartem.
 
"We are close to releasing this feature in Qimage One. I would estimate that our final testing will take no more than a week."
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Jeff-Grant on May 06, 2018, 06:22:25 pm
Sierra seems to be a PITA for Automator. Maybe I can just use a script. Do you have an image to exercise the ink lines on an IPF6400?

Sorry. My image is for Quadtone RIP calibration mode is so no Canon support.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Jeff-Grant on May 07, 2018, 10:59:37 pm
I just solved my problem. You need to give access to the app that you create in your privacy settings.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Landscapes on May 08, 2018, 12:33:33 am
Sorry to hijack this thread, but are there options like this for Windows?  I find that if the 6400 prints at least something every 2 days, then it doesn't do a forced clean cycle.  So if you will be away for a week or two, but the printer gets a small 1ml print job, you will be saving tons of ink.  Mine went through over 60 or 70ml of cleaning just after being away less than 2 weeks.  Next time I go away, I'd like to give it something to do every 2 days.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: gchappel on May 08, 2018, 12:01:25 pm
Sorry to hijack this thread, but are there options like this for Windows?  I find that if the 6400 prints at least something every 2 days, then it doesn't do a forced clean cycle.  So if you will be away for a week or two, but the printer gets a small 1ml print job, you will be saving tons of ink.  Mine went through over 60 or 70ml of cleaning just after being away less than 2 weeks.  Next time I go away, I'd like to give it something to do every 2 days.
On windows this is EASY. 
Qimage has this in place, as well as an image that uses all inks.  I use it with the 8400. 
I have 3 printers scheduled to print every several days- I just wish it would load paper so I wouldn't run out when away.
Gary
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: digitaldog on May 08, 2018, 01:57:24 pm
Sorry to hijack this thread, but are there options like this for Windows? 
https://www.codeproject.com/Articles/32239/Keep-Your-InkJet-Print-Head-Clean
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Landscapes on May 08, 2018, 05:12:14 pm
Thanks to Andrew and gchappel for both suggestions.  I will look into there!
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Binartem on May 08, 2018, 05:36:04 pm
I just got a note from Andrew Wilford at Binartem.
 
"We are close to releasing this feature in Qimage One. I would estimate that our final testing will take no more than a week."

Just wanted to let you know that we released Qimage One 2018.118 today and it now has the purge sheets/scheduler in both the macOS and Windows versions.  The latest video on our YouTube channel shows how it works on the Mac:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVjoUdzwy15eeFf6KtIc3LA
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: stockjock on May 08, 2018, 10:20:19 pm
Sorry to hijack this thread, but are there options like this for Windows?  I find that if the 6400 prints at least something every 2 days, then it doesn't do a forced clean cycle.  So if you will be away for a week or two, but the printer gets a small 1ml print job, you will be saving tons of ink.  Mine went through over 60 or 70ml of cleaning just after being away less than 2 weeks.  Next time I go away, I'd like to give it something to do every 2 days.

In Windows you can just use Task Scheduler and something like Irfanview which can be used with a command prompt to do the printing.  I print Bill Atkinson's 14 balls image but that is probably overkill.  I print every 3 days.  Not sure if 2 or 3 days is the right number.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Landscapes on May 09, 2018, 01:24:43 pm
In Windows you can just use Task Scheduler and something like Irfanview which can be used with a command prompt to do the printing.  I print Bill Atkinson's 14 balls image but that is probably overkill.  I print every 3 days.  Not sure if 2 or 3 days is the right number.

Thanks, I will look into this as well.  Its true, I'm not sure if 2 or 3 days is the best as well.  All I know is that if you wait too long, the printer instantly does a 12ml clean cycle, which is such a waste because printing a target would just use 1-2ml.  Even waiting a week between prints can induce a much bigger clean cycle than 12ml.  Leaving the printer in standby mode is kind of useless because sure, it will turn on to agitate and it will also sometimes do a random nozzle check, but it doesn't do anything to maintain the printhead really.  By manually printing something every 2 days, you save so much more ink by not having these forced clean cycles at whatever time intervals are programmed into it.

I have discovered that using just 1-2ml every 2 days is generally good for a few weeks, but if I really don't print, then eventually I am hit with a fairly big clean cycle.  But usually, I do have something big enough to print at least once every 2 weeks, so that really gets the ink flowing, and just need something to carry me between big print jobs, or when I'm away for a week, hence why I'm looking at this solution.
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: PH Focal-Scape on May 09, 2018, 07:15:24 pm
Am curious. Is it possible to schedule "normal" printing with the new function in Q1 or is it purely for maintenance?

Thanks

Peter


Just wanted to let you know that we released Qimage One 2018.118 today and it now has the purge sheets/scheduler in both the macOS and Windows versions.  The latest video on our YouTube channel shows how it works on the Mac:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVjoUdzwy15eeFf6KtIc3LA
Title: Re: Schedule unattended IPF6400 printing
Post by: Binartem on May 11, 2018, 10:50:16 am
Am curious. Is it possible to schedule "normal" printing with the new function in Q1 or is it purely for maintenance?

Thanks

Peter

The feature prints a pattern specific to your printer/ink on a schedule for maintenance, so you can't choose (for example) user specified photos to be printed on a schedule.

Regards