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The Art of Photography => The Coffee Corner => Topic started by: JoeKitchen on April 21, 2018, 07:49:37 am

Title: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: JoeKitchen on April 21, 2018, 07:49:37 am
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I'll be the first to admit that the digital society has left my writing hand weaker then it once was and I can no longer write non-stop for hours on end without my hand becoming sore beyond use, but I would never think about having a machine write a personal letter, or worse my holiday cards I send to clients, for me. 

This just depresses me on so many levels. 

On the bright side, maybe this will bring back cursive and young people will start to be able to read it again. 
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Kevin Gallagher on April 21, 2018, 12:42:12 pm
 Wow, that IS sad, the machine reminds me of one of those 80's era office plotters used for making paper graphs for staff meetings etc.
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: BJL on April 21, 2018, 01:15:14 pm
This reminds me of a scene in "Foundation", where Isaac Asimov mis-predicts word-processors. The user was dictating to a machine that directly wrote with a pen, so that every mistake required starting the whole page again!

P. S. Cursive can die out for all I care; I wish instead that more schools taught elegant "italic" hand-writing, which can be as fast as cursive, and more readable:
https://www.calligraphy-skills.com/italic-lettering.html
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: tom b on April 25, 2018, 05:23:32 am
"The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While".

Come on Joe, that's the saddest thing? How about…

Idiots driving cars into pedestrians.

Crazies shooting people using high powered weapons.

Refugees drowning trying to reach safety.

Boko Haram kidnapping school girls.

Continual suicide bombings.

The Supreme Court upholds teenager's 241-year prison term.

I'm sure we all have very real things to be sad about, this is not one.

Cheers,

Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: JoeKitchen on April 25, 2018, 07:45:49 am
"The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While".

Come on Joe, that's the saddest thing? How about…

Idiots driving cars into pedestrians.

Crazies shooting people using high powered weapons.

Refugees drowning trying to reach safety.

Boko Haram kidnapping school girls.

Continual suicide bombings.

The Supreme Court upholds teenager's 241-year prison term.

I'm sure we all have very real things to be sad about, this is not one.

Cheers,

Thanks Tom, for not having a sense of humor.  You must be fun at parties. 

Should I from now on always note when a post is a joke? 
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: tom b on April 25, 2018, 08:25:43 am
Sorry you missed my sarcasm. Maybe I need to do this next time.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Otto Phocus on April 25, 2018, 08:28:56 am

Should I from now on always note when a post is a joke? 

Might be a prudent thing to do.  With written communications, there is a fine line between sarcasm and stupidity. A lot of posters include a "/s" at the end to indicate that the post is not to be taken literally but considered sarcastically.

There was nothing in your post that indicated any sarcasm. You might want to keep that in mind before accusing someone else of not having a sense of humour.   A wise man looks toward himself before blaming others.

If this is not the saddest thing you have seen in a while, why did you entitle your post "the saddest thing I've seen in a while"?

Perhaps a better and more accurate title could have been along the lines of "here is something I found amusing/strange".   That would have prevented any misunderstanding.

Just a suggestion.
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Rob C on April 25, 2018, 09:41:08 am
Thanks Tom, for not having a sense of humor.  You must be fun at parties. 

Should I from now on always note when a post is a joke? 


Joe, it's just another manifestation of political correctness and punctiliousness; best just ignoring it and staying happy - there are always those out there who pick nits as they do their nose.

:-)

Rob
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: JoeKitchen on April 25, 2018, 09:42:59 am
Sorry you missed my sarcasm. Maybe I need to do this next time.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 :)
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Two23 on April 25, 2018, 10:02:09 am

Come on Joe, that's the saddest thing? How about…



Crazies shooting people using high powered weapons.



For the record, the usual weapons are actually low powered.

Muzzle energy:
.223       =         1220 foot pounds   (AR15)
7.62x39 =          1650                     (AK47)
12 ga. slug  =     2700                    (standard deer load)
.30-06   =          2900                    (standard deer rifle)
.338 Mag  =       4000                    (standard elk rifle)
.50 BMG  =     13,400                     (Barrett rifle)


Kent in SD
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Jeremy Roussak on April 25, 2018, 03:17:44 pm

For the record, the usual weapons are actually low powered.

They seem to get the job done.

Jeremy
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Slobodan Blagojevic on April 25, 2018, 03:28:28 pm
... There was nothing in your post that indicated any sarcasm...

Why should it? Joe did not say anything about sarcasm, Tom did (for his own post).

If anything, Joe's post was a form of humorous hyperbole.
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Farmer on April 25, 2018, 05:47:12 pm

For the record, the usual weapons are actually low powered.

Muzzle energy:
.223       =         1220 foot pounds   (AR15)
7.62x39 =          1650                     (AK47)
12 ga. slug  =     2700                    (standard deer load)
.30-06   =          2900                    (standard deer rifle)
.338 Mag  =       4000                    (standard elk rifle)
.50 BMG  =     13,400                     (Barrett rifle)


A knife = 69 J (or 51 foot pounds if you must use that as your unit of measure) https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10605074

I'd say 1627 J is a lot more than 69 J, so it's reasonable to say the rifles are high powered weapons (even if they're not particularly high powered rifles), when it comes to personal weapons for killing people.
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: donbga on May 17, 2018, 09:33:21 am
Handwritten Notes (https://bond.co/?utm_source=facebook&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=ss_b2c_ham_lal1purchase&utm_content=Prospectingsendreal,pen-writtenrobotwriting)

I'll be the first to admit that the digital society has left my writing hand weaker then it once was and I can no longer write non-stop for hours on end without my hand becoming sore beyond use, but I would never think about having a machine write a personal letter, or worse my holiday cards I send to clients, for me. 

This just depresses me on so many levels. 

On the bright side, maybe this will bring back cursive and young people will start to be able to read it again.

My wife's mother and my mother had the most beautiful cursive. I was trained in grade school to write in cursive which was distinctive but not really beautiful. Additionally I was trained to draw lettering in mechanical drawing and architectural drawing in high school and college. My lettering was so good I was offered a job by Lockheed to work in their huge drafting department - which I turned down. The thought of lettering drafting documents 8 hours a day did not appeal to me and as it turned out machines replaced many draftsman.

Cursive hand writing will possibly disappear from the mainstream and I don't think that is a tragedy. If the need isn't there why bother. Word processors are much more productive.

 
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Alan Klein on May 17, 2018, 09:45:33 am
I always got an "N" in penmanship in school.  I also used to get "N"s for Talking Too Much In Class. 
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: JoeKitchen on May 17, 2018, 05:08:15 pm
I always got an "N" in penmanship in school.  I also used to get "N"s for Talking Too Much In Class.

What grade is an "N?"

Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: JoeKitchen on May 17, 2018, 05:12:49 pm
My wife's mother and my mother had the most beautiful cursive.

I pretty much only write in cursive, and really would love to improve my calligraphy skills this year, if I have time.  It's May already! ???

Anyway, I always get random compliments on my handwriting, like at least once a month, which pisses my wife off to no end.  Her handwriting, whether she prints or writes, is, um ... word processors certainly serve her well. 
Title: Re: The Saddest Thing I've Seen in a While
Post by: Alan Klein on May 17, 2018, 06:19:21 pm
What grade is an "N?"


"Needs Improvement"