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Title: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Kevin Raber on April 13, 2018, 09:09:11 am
Today I have published the last chapter in the Luminous-Landscape - Shooting With The Masters (https://luminous-landscape.com/shooting-with-the-masters-charlie-cramer-finale/) series.  In this episode, we are treated to a piano solo by Charlie as he shares how his music and photography are so closely tied together.  We end with a slide show with his piano playing as a background.  Please enjoy.  This was a series that was so rewarding to create.  Hope everyone has enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Lance Saint Paul on April 13, 2018, 09:29:52 am
Thank you so much. Kudos to you both.

In all the time I have come to this site this is by far the best thing I have experienced here. Doing my best to soak it all up. Magnificent!

Thanks! I needed that....
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: jhulton2 on April 13, 2018, 09:37:46 am
Kevin: truly inspiring, insightful and luscious series of videos with Mr. Cramer!. This is the kind of thing that only LuLu can do. I know Michael is grinning right now knowing he put LuLu in the right hands.
PLEASE do more with other artists. Merg Ross?

Thank you thank you!!
jeff hulton
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Peter McLennan on April 13, 2018, 10:11:43 am
I know Michael is grinning right now knowing he put LuLu in the right hands.

Well said. jhulton.

A superb series in all respects.  Inspiring us is a high ideal, one well met with these productions. Thanks to all involved.

Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: rdonson on April 13, 2018, 10:26:20 am
Two brilliant videos!  They reflect Charlie’s background, thoughts and approaches to photography so nicely.

Thanks for a memorable series with Charlie.  I will be watching these videos many times. Especially when I need some inspiration and direction.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: toconnorphotography on April 13, 2018, 11:16:05 am
Kevin, Charles and everyone who put this together, you all did a fabulous job.  I really liked the amount of time that you put into this series.  It was not just a quick visit but more like a vacation.  I love Charles's work. I have been to one of his one day workshops about 10 or so years ago in San Francisco in a building at the Zoo.  He is so calm and concise the way he explains his thoughts.  The piano playing was a perfect way to end the series.  It let us see another side of Charles and though I have read many times the reference of Ansel Adams, it was refreshing and revealing to see Charles demonstrate it with the piano and his images.  Thanks so much to all!!

Tom O'Connor
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: cgarnerhome on April 13, 2018, 11:27:04 am
Bravo!
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: KenTanaka on April 13, 2018, 12:19:27 pm
Bravo!  Thank you so much, Kevin and Chris, for producing this series with Charlie Cramer. I am not a landscape photography enthusiast, per se, but the lessons-by-example that Charlie presented are applicable to any type of photographic endeavor.  The over-arching lessons being three-fold. 

   1. Know what you want to "say" with an image.  How do you want it to read?
   2. Learn to really SEE your image objectively to identify what needs to be adjusted to accomplish #1.
   3. Be SUBTLE with your adjustments.  Light touches, not slider-slams.

Wonderful series.  Thanks to everyone involved, again.

- Ken Tanaka (http://www.KenTanaka.com) -
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: bbrandonscott2 on April 13, 2018, 12:24:33 pm
I second all the comments about this being a terrific series.  I just received a copy of Charles Cramers's Yosemite photobook. It's a wonderful book, on the small side for a photobook, but that is one of its virtues.  It is in a square format, about 10x10 inches. This allows both portrait and landscape format images to fit nicely on the page. Plenty of white space to let the image stand out. There are 35 images of which only two bleed across the gutter. (Thanks for that). There is no technical information about the images, which allows the images to stand on their own.  Reproduction is excellent. It's a book you can easily hold in your hands and enjoy with your eyes.
Cramer describes the influence of Ansel Adams on him, but these are not images on the grand scale of Adams. They are really intimate landscapes and Cramer has a much better eye for color than Adams did. Both elements, intimate point of view and the outstanding use of subtle color, remind me of Eliot Porter more than Ansel Adams.
A modest book like the man, with pictures that just explode with beauty. Thanks for series and the book.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: adias on April 13, 2018, 12:58:22 pm
Charles Cramer is both a Master Photographer and a virtuoso pianist. Thank you for your command performances!
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: RMW on April 13, 2018, 01:53:29 pm
Wonderful and instructive.
Thanks to everyone involved.
Just ordered Charley's "Yosemite".
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: DougDolde on April 13, 2018, 05:23:41 pm
Ditto on the big thank you.  Really enjoyed the whole series.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: TommyWeir on April 14, 2018, 03:05:18 am
Really enjoyed the series, great useful information and guidance on a number of points.  Well done all round.

Those of you wishing for more Charlie might enjoy his talk at the On Landscape Meeting of Minds conference in the UK last year, not so much process but a good deal of his humor and relationship with Ansel Adams  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d8zxB4zMAg Very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: vartkes on April 14, 2018, 08:21:20 pm
Wonderful!
Kevin, if you could only do two or three of this kind of production every year LULA will be the most revered facility for many of us.
My wish-list would include Michael Kenna, Bruce Barnbaum and Guy Tal. However, anyone else you pick will be, I am sure, wonderful too!
Thank you for giving each of an opportunity to elevate ourselves through this experience.
Vartkes
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Kevin Raber on April 14, 2018, 09:08:35 pm
Thanks, everyone and especially Chris and Charlie.  We are making arrangements for the next Masters series.  Lots of other projects too.  On Monday we launch On The Rocks.  It will appear here on our site and on YouTube and is a collaboration effort.  Three guys drinking whiskey, talking photography and having fun.  We are very excited about this new effort.  Look for the video on the home page article on Monday.  I also believe you'll enjoy the next photographer featured in Shooting With The Masters.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: philpither on April 15, 2018, 12:37:31 am
Kevin & Charlie - Thank you very much - enjoyed it all.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: farbschlurf on April 15, 2018, 03:46:14 am
Thanks again for this series. I will definitely talk to a lot of people about that - maybe some will join LL, this is really a very good reason to do so.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: ThoGro on April 15, 2018, 08:29:08 am
Thank you Kevin and Charlie for making these episodes, everything in them was inspiring and fascinating to watch !
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: lvkaufman on April 15, 2018, 10:07:32 am
One of the best video series that LuLa has done! I learned an incredible amount from Charlie. Thank you again for doing this series.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: bmangas on April 15, 2018, 04:02:50 pm
Charlie Cramer is a true inspiration. The videos have been the most thoughtful and inspirational I have ever watched. Thank you Kevin, for bringing Charlie to us all.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: holt.anthony on April 16, 2018, 09:20:32 am
Just to say a big thank you to Charlie, Kevin and Chris for this video series. It's been a joy to watch.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: DaveKennard on April 18, 2018, 01:54:19 pm
Great series, thanks to Charlie, Kevin, Chris, and anyone else involved in putting it together. I bought Charlie's Yosemite book, and very nice it is too.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Roy Sletcher on April 18, 2018, 10:39:54 pm
Absolutely first rate feature and kudos to all involved in producing and presenting this story. This article alone worth the Lula membership. 

For anybody interested a YouTube video featuring Charlie's endearing comments and humble style at:

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d8zxB4zMAg (http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d8zxB4zMAg)


-rs-
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: wwlee on April 20, 2018, 06:26:21 am
Thank you, Kevin and Charlie, for a great series! I really enjoyed it and learned a lot. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Charles Cramer on April 20, 2018, 11:03:15 am
Again, thanks to everyone for the kind words about this video series!

On April 18th Roy posted a link to a video, and I clicked on it to see which video it was.  I found that the link has an extra "http://" at the beginning, so here's the corrected one: Charles Cramer Presentation (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-d8zxB4zMAg).  This is a talk I gave to the  OnLandscape conference in England in late 2016.  It's about an hour talk, including a discussion with David Ward afterwards. Thanks, Roy for posting this link.  (By the way, they've just announced the 2018 OnLandscape Conference (https://www.onlandscape.co.uk/landscape-conference-2018/) with three incredible hosts, Mark Littlejohn, Tim Parkin, and Joe Cornish! It takes place in the beautiful Lake District).

As long as we're posting Youtube links, I'd love to share a 4 minute video I did with several faculty from my alma mater, San Jose State University.  It's a short piece written by composer Brent Heisinger, played by pianist Gwendolyn Mok, with images and video editing by, well, moi! Loveliness Video. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CU4Hy2zYsNs)   You'll find it very calming....but don't fall asleep!
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Frank Burdis on April 22, 2018, 08:26:31 am
I very much appreciated the series with Charlie.  It was most helpful to see the thinking behind the edits that he makes and how subtle changes can make such a big difference.
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Dave (Isle of Skye) on April 22, 2018, 07:25:25 pm
Yes this is by far the best thing I have seen on photography for quite some time - bravo everyone involved in it and especially Charles for taking part and for being so open and willing to describe in detail, so much of his technique to us all.

Can I ask you a question Charles? On the Ansel Adams - Photographer video (1981), there is a young guy hanging around behind Ansel wearing a big hat and looking a little unsure of himself, this person appears around 44 minutes into the video (see screen shot below) and I have often wondered if this you Charles from all those years ago?

I am not going to put a link to the video, as I am quite sure it should not be on youtube, as this video is still on sale in Ansel's gallery in Yosemite and well worth the purchase for anyone interested, and they ship worldwide as well  :)

Dave
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Charles Cramer on April 23, 2018, 04:25:42 pm
Hi Dave,

No, that's not me.  Also, I didn't attend the 1981 workshop.

Thanks for the kind words about the videos!

Charlie
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: BrianWoolf on June 23, 2018, 12:54:04 pm
Enjoyed the videos so much. Charlie Cramer is a favorite of mine.
Burning Question, what does Mr. Cramer do with the 'bad' prints that he makes, the first or second print, do they get tossed or does he save them for any reason?
I make 'test' prints of my photos to see them as prints and live with them but I will accept poor prints if the image is weak or questionable. If I do make a second or third print, I often destroy the first and sometimes the second print because they are just plain bad, Rip them into quarters and into the trash but I am not using an expensive paper to make these 'test' prints.
Thank you,
Brian
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: Charles Cramer on June 23, 2018, 06:12:56 pm
Brian,

What to do with proof prints, or bigger ones that are not quite right?   I recycle them....in the trash can!  (After ripping them up first).   John Sexton said that the trash can is the most important thing in your darkroom (approx. quote).  And remember, at least ink jet paper is a little cheaper than silver gelatin paper :-)

And sometimes it takes 4 or 5 or more to get things just right.  All I can do is make a print that makes me happy, and that usually means I can't think of anything else to make it look better.

Charlie
Title: Re: Just Published - The Last Chapter With Charlie Cramer Shooting With The Masters
Post by: drralph on July 24, 2018, 04:51:57 pm
I am revisiting the chapters, and with each viewing I find more tips, tricks, and wisdom.  I am taking notes for future reference!  Charlie, your method and style is mature, and clearly the product of much thought and experience.  I am grateful for each trial and error you spare me.  I hope I have the patience and perseverance to view each chapter as many times as required to learn the lessons imparted.  This is by far the most valuable and rewarding instructional stream I have encountered.

Ralph